2023-2024 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[Daley Tarasenkshow]

I like Bolduc but certainly surprised to see him called up at this point.

I wonder if it's just to give Army a better idea going into the trade deadline. But the timing is still kind of weird to me

 

[Beauterham]

According to JR (yeah, I know...) the Blues original plan was to keep Bolduc in Springfield the entire season, so plans were changed.

Might be a weird thought, but with calling up Bolduc AND Faulk also going to LTIR at the same time (freeing up 6.5 million capspace) could a trade be incoming?

 

[Linkens Mastery]

According to JR (yeah, I know...) the Blues original plan was to keep Bolduc in Springfield the entire season, so plans were changed.

Might be a weird thought, but with calling up Bolduc AND Faulk also going to LTIR at the same time (freeing up 6.5 million capspace) could a trade be incoming?

Or Faulk has a setback and needs additional time

 

[bleedblue1223]

I think it's more due to guys like Kapanen and Blais doing nothing offensively, and Vrana being a lost cause.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I'm intrigued. I've been disappointed with Bolduc but he made be a believer with the way he played in preseason action this past offseason. I'm interested to see how he does with the big boys.

I do wonder if they're working on something with the Islanders at the urging of his former QMJHL coach Patrick Roy.

 

[shpongle falls]

https://x.com/StLouisBlues/status/1760016470895952121?s=20

A bit surprising since he's having a mediocre season in the AHL but can't hurt to give him a few games. Not expecting much in his first NHL stint. Will be interesting to see what line they put him on.

He struggled initially making the jump to pro hockey but i’ve read he’s really come on as of late and has been their top left wing.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

I've actually been more impressed with what I've heard and seen with Bolduc this season. I thought he would struggle much more than he has. For a player that many, including myself, thought would have trouble adapting to physical pro-hockey, he seems to be treading water fairly well. I mean look at how he's adapted versus someone like Dean, who I think many would have thought to be better at this point.

I'm not trying to make Bolduc sound like some superstar. But he his 7th in points on Springfield and won't turn 21 until Saturday (Might be a birthday present for Bolduc). So far, I'd say a flawed top-6 winger is well within his grasp as an NHL player. Still, nothing is guaranteed.

 

[Mike Liut]

It’s a good move Considering Blais, Kap and Walker are useless. Might as well see what a few of the kids can do. I’d give Dean a few games for shits too.

 

[Thallis]

He struggled initially making the jump to pro hockey but i’ve read he’s really come on as of late and has been their top left wing.

He's got 10 points in 21 games since the turn of the year. I'm not sure how true this is.

 

[BlueDream]

Is anyone else curious if after how we had to listen for a year about how Kyrou needs traded all because of his +/- what does that person think of Connor Bedard being nearly equal to Kyrou +/- from last year?

Swing and a miss.

Connor Bedard is 18 years old. You have to be an extremely desperate Kyrou fanboy to try to make this comparison.

Furthermore, look at Chicago’s roster and tell me if you see more than 5 NHL players besides Bedard. It’s the worst roster in the league. Kyrou was at least playing with some talent last year.

Oh yeah, and Bedard is also on pace for more points than Kyrou had last year (in a full 82 game season)… as an 18 year old. So yeah, Kyrou can’t hold his jockstrap.

 

[Majorityof1]

I'm intrigued. I've been disappointed with Bolduc but he made be a believer with the way he played in preseason action this past offseason. I'm interested to see how he does with the big boys.

I do wonder if they're working on something with the Islanders at the urging of his former QMJHL coach Patrick Roy.

Why would we call him up to trade him to the Islanders? If this presages a deal, I think it is more along the lines of moving a forward currently on the roster for cap and not getting one back. So like moving Kapanen in a deal for Hanafin.

Most likely, we just had some injuries, so a roster spot opened. The team wanted to give him a cup of coffee to see the NHL, get an NHL paycheck, and see what it takes to be a NHLer.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I like it, gives him a chance to see what he needs to work on to become a full time player. And who knows, maybe he takes the opportunity and runs with it.(I know it's not likely, but there's always a chance)

It’s a good move Considering Blais, Kap and Walker are useless. Might as well see what a few of the kids can do. I’d give Dean a few games for shits too.

Walker has been more than acceptable on the 4th line, agreed on the other two though.

 

[Celtic Note]

Swing and a miss.

Connor Bedard is 18 years old. You have to be an extremely desperate Kyrou fanboy to try to make this comparison.

Furthermore, look at Chicago’s roster and tell me if you see more than 5 NHL players besides Bedard. It’s the worst roster in the league. Kyrou was at least playing with some talent last year.

Oh yeah, and Bedard is also on pace for more points than Kyrou had last year (in a full 82 game season)… as an 18 year old. So yeah, Kyrou can’t hold his jockstrap.

But the important question that arises here is this…does Kyrou really need to hold Bedard’s jock strap?

 

[oPlaiD]

Bolduc has 2g 4a and +6 in his last 7 games playing on the top line from what I saw someone claim somewhere else? Maybe just a hot streak, but he seems to have at least improved as the season went on down there, based off those stats.

There's opportunity for him to actually improve the NHL team given our play from the bottom two lines, and it's probably a decent experience to get a young guy in when the NHL games actually matter in terms of making playoffs when everyone is giving max effort versus in a lost season scenario. Hopefully it this works well.

 

[Xerloris]

Swing and a miss.

Connor Bedard is 18 years old. You have to be an extremely desperate Kyrou fanboy to try to make this comparison.

Furthermore, look at Chicago’s roster and tell me if you see more than 5 NHL players besides Bedard. It’s the worst roster in the league. Kyrou was at least playing with some talent last year.

Oh yeah, and Bedard is also on pace for more points than Kyrou had last year (in a full 82 game season)… as an 18 year old. So yeah, Kyrou can’t hold his jockstrap.

but none of that matters. His +/- makes him a detriment to the team and he should be buried in the ahl.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Kyrou has his issues no doubt, but he's also a piece of a puzzle when building a Cup team. If Tarasenko never had the Backes/Steen/Oshie line or O'Reilly/Perron line to help shelter him, Tarasenko would also be exposed in similar ways as Kyrou has. Both have moments where they look like they can have a strong defensive/2-way game, and other moments where they look useless in that aspect.

Since the coaching change, Kyrou has 14 goals and 26 points in 27 games. He's a +3 in that stretch. He's shooting 16.1% in that stretch, so it's not a wildly unsustainable rate either. A big thing for him is starting the season strong, in back to back seasons, he's struggled massively out of the game, and that can't be what happens moving forward. That's also why he gets more negative attention because people will always remember how a player starts or how a player ends, and it's very difficult to shake perceptions of a bad start, unless you go unbelievably hot.

It's somewhat similar to saying Parayko isn't a #1 dman on a Cup team, so ship him out. Obviously Parayko isn't a #1 on a Cup team, just how Kyrou isn't an all-situations winger on a Cup team, but both are at the level of playing an important role on a Cup team.

 

[Xerloris]

Kyrou has his issues no doubt, but he's also a piece of a puzzle when building a Cup team. If Tarasenko never had the Backes/Steen/Oshie line or O'Reilly/Perron line to help shelter him, Tarasenko would also be exposed in similar ways as Kyrou has. Both have moments where they look like they can have a strong defensive/2-way game, and other moments where they look useless in that aspect.

Since the coaching change, Kyrou has 14 goals and 26 points in 27 games. He's a +3 in that stretch. He's shooting 16.1% in that stretch, so it's not a wildly unsustainable rate either. A big thing for him is starting the season strong, in back to back seasons, he's struggled massively out of the game, and that can't be what happens moving forward. That's also why he gets more negative attention because people will always remember how a player starts or how a player ends, and it's very difficult to shake perceptions of a bad start, unless you go unbelievably hot.

It's somewhat similar to saying Parayko isn't a #1 dman on a Cup team, so ship him out. Obviously Parayko isn't a #1 on a Cup team, just how Kyrou isn't an all-situations winger on a Cup team, but both are at the level of playing an important role on a Cup team.

I'm being a douche over the fact Dizee cries about Kyrou and +/- as if that's the only stat that matters. I was just pointing out that Bedard a supposed generational talent also has a total joke of a +/-. I am not trying to say to trade Kryou, although for the right price I would. No, I have no idea what that price would be.

 

[Reality Czech]

Kyrou has his issues no doubt, but he's also a piece of a puzzle when building a Cup team. If Tarasenko never had the Backes/Steen/Oshie line or O'Reilly/Perron line to help shelter him, Tarasenko would also be exposed in similar ways as Kyrou has. Both have moments where they look like they can have a strong defensive/2-way game, and other moments where they look useless in that aspect.

Since the coaching change, Kyrou has 14 goals and 26 points in 27 games. He's a +3 in that stretch. He's shooting 16.1% in that stretch, so it's not a wildly unsustainable rate either. A big thing for him is starting the season strong, in back to back seasons, he's struggled massively out of the game, and that can't be what happens moving forward. That's also why he gets more negative attention because people will always remember how a player starts or how a player ends, and it's very difficult to shake perceptions of a bad start, unless you go unbelievably hot.

It's somewhat similar to saying Parayko isn't a #1 dman on a Cup team, so ship him out. Obviously Parayko isn't a #1 on a Cup team, just how Kyrou isn't an all-situations winger on a Cup team, but both are at the level of playing an important role on a Cup team.

I'm definitely not on the anti-Kyrou train but he did have the luxury of being sheltered for the first few years of his career. To me this season was all about how Thomas and Kyrou adapted to being THE guys rather than supporting players. Thomas has passed with flying colors while Kyrou still feels like a supporting player rather than a true star and leader. I'd like him to play with more urgency and intensity.

But what really drives me crazy about him is all the unenforced errors. I've never seen a guy lose the puck off his stick more than Kyrou. He's good for 1-3 careless giveaways per game. But he surely looks like a more complete player this year so I'll give him credit for that.

 

[execwrite1]

Critical stretch coming up now. Tank or make the playoffs. Worst scenario is doing neither.

At this point I'm hoping we're ready to fold. Seemed like a playoff spot was possible but this team just doesn't have enough talent.

Here's hoping (unhappily) for a quick sting of losses and deadline selloff deals.

 

[TheOrganist]

Critical stretch coming up now. Tank or make the playoffs. Worst scenario is doing neither.

At this point I'm hoping we're ready to fold. Seemed like a playoff spot was possible but this team just doesn't have enough talent.

Here's hoping (unhappily) for a quick sting of losses and deadline selloff deals.

Again, one hot or cold streak isn’t going to change the long term calculus. The manager of the team recently acknowledged it’s a middling team that isn’t legitimately competing for a Cup.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Perunovich is skating with the starting 6 dmen, so he's probably returning.

 

[PJJJP]

Looks like Bolduc is on the 2nd line with Neighbors and Schenn

 

[STL fan in MN]

Looks like Bolduc is on the 2nd line with Neighbors and Schenn

Blais and Alexandrov on the “5th” line. Makes sense.

Both Faulk and Perunovich on the ice so neither can be that ridiculously injured.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Looks like Bolduc is on the 2nd line with Neighbors and Schenn

I'm probably weird, but I was kind of hoping for

Neighbours-Thomas-Kyrou
Bolduc-Schenn-Buch
Saad-Hayes-Kapanen
Walker-Sunny-Torop

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I'm definitely not on the anti-Kyrou train but he did have the luxury of being sheltered for the first few years of his career. To me this season was all about how Thomas and Kyrou adapted to being THE guys rather than supporting players. Thomas has passed with flying colors while Kyrou still feels like a supporting player rather than a true star and leader. I'd like him to play with more urgency and intensity.

But what really drives me crazy about him is all the unenforced errors. I've never seen a guy lose the puck off his stick more than Kyrou. He's good for 1-3 careless giveaways per game. But he surely looks like a more complete player this year so I'll give him credit for that.

Where would Tarasenko fall in this comparison? I think that’s what we can reasonably expect from Kyrou. Scoring, some brilliant flashes, and not really ever “the guy” in the way that the very elite guys are. Kyrou seems on his way to be at the Tarasenko level.

I’d like to see more competitiveness from him, or a higher gear and confidence when the chips are down.