2023-2024 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[STL fan in MN]

Whose decision was it to have Dvorsky play in Sweden to start the season?

Was it Steen’s? I’m sure he had some input, but I’d like to know the weight of Steen’s input.

He signed with Oskarshamn about a week before the draft so the Blues would’ve had no part of that decision. So I’d guess it was a joint decision between Dvorsky and his agent.

In hindsight, it was the wrong call. Should’ve just stuck with AIK or another Allsvenskan team.

 

[Xerloris]

Whose decision was it to have Dvorsky play in Sweden to start the season?

Was it Steen’s? I’m sure he had some input, but I’d like to know the weight of Steen’s input.

He was under contract with his team so we decided to let him play it out and then apparently they were f***ing up his development so we bought out his contract and brought him to NA. AFAIK

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Thank you, both! That clears it up for me. Pre-draft contract.

 

[STL fan in MN]

He was under contract with his team so we decided to let him play it out and then apparently they were f***ing up his development so we bought out his contract and brought him to NA. AFAIK

Did we buy out the contract? I thought it was just mutually terminated?

In the end, doesn’t really matter to me as it’s not my money but I thought Oskarshamn was more than fine just letting him go.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Did we buy out the contract? I thought it was just mutually terminated?

In the end, doesn’t really matter to me as it’s not my money but I thought Oskarshamn was more than fine just letting him go.

yeah, pretty sure player and team agreed to a mutual termination. i don't think we would be permitted to buy it out under cba anyway.

 

[Xerloris]

Did we buy out the contract? I thought it was just mutually terminated?

In the end, doesn’t really matter to me as it’s not my money but I thought Oskarshamn was more than fine just letting him go.

yeah, pretty sure player and team agreed to a mutual termination. i don't think we would be permitted to buy it out under cba anyway.

I really don't know either way, I just assumed we paid the team he was with to get him out.

 

[STL fan in MN]

yeah, pretty sure player and team agreed to a mutual termination. i don't think we would be permitted to buy it out under cba anyway.

Yeah, thinking about it a little more, I bet it’s all covered by the NHL Transfer Agreement. So the Blues paid $381k when they signed Dvorsky. My guess is AIK and Oskarshamn split that amount.

 

[ezcreepin]

Technically, teams cannot help players get out of contracts in Europe/Russia. If they do, that is tampering and I think the team either gets fined or they could lose a draft pick or something wild like that. If the player wants to get out of the contract, I believe they have to buy it out themselves or I'm assuming they can mutually terminate the contract.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Technically, teams cannot help players get out of contracts in Europe/Russia. If they do, that is tampering and I think the team either gets fined or they could lose a draft pick or something wild like that. If the player wants to get out of the contract, I believe they have to buy it out themselves or I'm assuming they can mutually terminate the contract.

That’d be true in Russia or any other country without a Transfer Agreement. But the NHL has a Transfer Agreement with Sweden. Basically means the NHL team pays the agreed upon rate (currently $381k) and any SHL contract doesn’t matter. That’s what the Swedish Ice Hockey Association agreed to.

 

[ezcreepin]

That’d be true in Russia or any other country without a Transfer Agreement. But the NHL has a Transfer Agreement with Sweden. Basically means the NHL team pays the agreed upon rate (currently $381k) and any SHL contract doesn’t matter. That’s what the Swedish Ice Hockey Association agreed to.

I thought this happened (player buying out contract) with the Leafs some time ago with one of Loov, Borgman, Rosen, Johnsson, Lindholm, or Lehtonen? I thought for sure it was either Borgman or Rosen, but I guess all of their contracts expired?

 

[Reality Czech]

I was doing a little scouting in Prague and I can inform everyone that this was not Binnington or Parayko's best game. Fun game to watch though! Canada escaped with the OT win 7-6. Binner 6 goals allowed on 21 shots. Only some of them his fault.

 

[pseudoswede]

Many SHL players have clauses in their contracts that allow them to leave the team if offered an NHL contract during the off-season.

Watching the Avs game last night, hearing the boo-birds rain down in Ball Arena was sweet. I hope Dallas can close it out tomorrow.

 

[stl76]

Not sure where to post this, but this was just so comical and clownish it deserves reposting IMO:

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Not sure where to post this, but this was just so comical and clownish it deserves reposting IMO:

word out of ottawa is pretty clear he isn't being traded. obviously things can change, but it would be shocking if brady is dealt this summer.

 

[bleedblue1223]

One of the reasons to take what is said on sports talk radio with a grain of salt at about 58 seconds, he said he had no concrete information, but especially with local sports radio, they don't really know anything and just want to talk random stuff or get clips, so someone like JR will entertain the questions and talk.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Not sure where to post this, but this was just so comical and clownish it deserves reposting IMO:

JR shows us who he is every chance he gets, a total moron.

 

[bleedblue1223]

From an article in The Athletic. Sounds like he's been having a great WC.

Colton Parayko​

He may not have earned a point on the Cozens overtime goal against Czechia, but Parayko made a sneaky good move by joining the short-handed rush and helping cross up the defenders when his teammate scored it.

He’s seemingly been in the middle of all the team’s big moments during the tournament. In many ways, the veteran defenseman has been Canada’s engine.

No other Canadian player has exceeded his 168 minutes played at this World Championship or put up a plus-minus rating better than his plus-8.

Cracking Team Canada’s blue line for a best-on-best competition is exceptionally difficult, especially as a right-shot defender, and it may be a stretch for the 31-year-old Parayko to work his way into that conversation. But he’s done everything he can to remain on the radar.

 

[simon IC]

From an article in The Athletic. Sounds like he's been having a great WC.

He needs to be our captain.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

He needs to be our captain.

I don't think so. I love Parayko, but I fear he would put too much pressure on himself because he is so nice. I always thought he was more comfortable as Robin than Batman.

 

[PocketNines]

From an article in The Athletic. Sounds like he's been having a great WC.

Parayko is beginning to add "the rush" to his regular intentions. The problem is that it's easy for defenders to defend it. You just allow him to penetrate and when he tries to make a play take the puck away from him now he's up ice. He will get back in position in time but the Blues are not going to develop any threats from those rushes unless he figures out some basic plays he can make to keep the play alive

 

[bleedblue1223]

Parayko is beginning to add "the rush" to his regular intentions. The problem is that it's easy for defenders to defend it. You just allow him to penetrate and when he tries to make a play take the puck away from him now he's up ice. He will get back in position in time but the Blues are not going to develop any threats from those rushes unless he figures out some basic plays he can make to keep the play alive

I think Parayko hitting that next level is being a 15-20 goal guy by joining the rush and being a finisher and not the creator. If he can turn his rushes into a play or even just extended zone time, that would be a huge boost too.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Parayko did look pretty good in the couple games I watched but I’ve learned to largely ignore World Championships performances as they seem to rarely correlate with NHL success. It’s a different beast played on bigger ice. Perunovich was the leading D scorer for the Americans a year ago. Doesn’t mean a whole lot.

You guys should go watch the goal that cost Canada the Bronze medal. It involves both Parayko and Binnington looking like doofuses.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Yeah, WC performances don't mean anything, just nice to see Parayko continue his form and get some recognition for it.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I think Parayko hitting that next level is being a 15-20 goal guy by joining the rush and being a finisher and not the creator. If he can turn his rushes into a play or even just extended zone time, that would be a huge boost too.

Are there good examples of a defender adding a piece like that to his game this late in his career?

I think Parayko has the physical tools to maybe have done more….if he had a mean streak, etc. But I think he is what he is and that is all we’ll get. It’s pretty valuable to St Louis right now, but to add scoring like that in defense it will need to come from another player.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Are there good examples of a defender adding a piece like that to his game this late in his career?

I think Parayko has the physical tools to maybe have done more….if he had a mean streak, etc. But I think he is what he is and that is all we’ll get. It’s pretty valuable to St Louis right now, but to add scoring like that in defense it will need to come from another player.

For him, I think it would have to be driven by a usage change, but I also don't see that happening where he gets more balanced usage. I don't think 15 is unreasonable if he started getting the type of minutes that a typical #1 gets, but as a shutdown guy getting heavy defensive minutes, I don't see it. 10 in his role is really good though.