Prospect Info: [2023 - 165th] Filip Eriksson (SHL - Vaxjo Lakers)

HuGort

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I think you need to actually check things out before posting because both things you said are wrong (again).

Keith Acton: 46 years ago (1978)
Mike McPhee: 44 years ago (1980)

Donald Dufresne: 39 years ago (1985)
Craig Conroy: 34 years ago (1990)
Oleg Petrov: 33 years ago (1991)
Darcy Tucker: 31 years ago (1993)

Brett Clark: 28 years ago (1996)
Andrei Markov (162nd overall, 6th round): 26 years ago (1998)

Matt D'agostini: 19 years ago (2005)

Michael Pezzetta: 8 years ago (2016)
Draft has evolved a lot since then. Mainly since advancement in analytics. Plus the combine, interviews. What happened in 70s doesn't hold today. I wouldn't go further back than rule changes. When they started the u18 furthest for sure.
 

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Draft has evolved a lot since then. Mainly since advancement in analytics. Plus the combine, interviews. What happened in 70s doesn't hold today. I wouldn't go further back than rule changes. When they started the u18 furthest for sure.

Come on dude, I even put the dates for you... There's a single one of those in the 1970s...

1970s: 1
1980s: 2
1990s: 5
2000s: 1
2010s: 1
 
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HuGort

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Come on dude, I even put the dates for you... There's a single one of those in the 1970s...

1970s: 1
1980s: 2
1990s: 5
2000s: 1
2010s: 1
When making draft decisions I only back to rule changes. Around 20 years. That way I stay in modern times and still have wide database to work with. Most I ever went back was when u18 started. That was only once. I try hard to study in analytics era.

I find if I go back to '60s,-80s era, game had changed so much it's likely give me wrong opinion.
 

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When making draft decisions I only back to rule changes. Around 20 years. That way I stay in modern times and still have wide database to work with. Most I ever went back was when u18 started. That was only once. I try hard to study in analytics era.

I find if I go back to '60s,-80s era, game had changed so much it's likely give me wrong opinion.

If you go 20 years, you still have two.

If you remove the 80s and before, you still have 7 out of the 10.

So again, wrong.
 
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Toene

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I feel like we're collectively sleeping on this guy. Easily our most underrated prospect imo. Anyone know when he's expected to join Laval?
 
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Ericksson has a better ppg than Lekkerimaki (drafted 15th), Ostlund (drafted 16th) and Ohgren (19th) in SWE-L.
 
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I wonder how high he would have gone in this year's draft as a 19 year old. It's a really good thing we took a chance on him when he was so under the radar. Our current staff seem to like picking a few overagers though, so we might have been on to him this year anyway. Still, better safe than sorry.
 
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jrom

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I wonder how high he would have gone in this year's draft as a 19 year old. It's a really good thing we took a chance on him when he was so under the radar. Our current staff seem to like picking a few overagers though, so we might have been on to him this year anyway. Still, better safe than sorry.

I suspect they’re targeting (with late picks especially) players that have a nice development curve when looking at D-1 and D0 year, betting that they’ll keep improving.
 

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Lekkerimäki was in the SHL this year.
The poster was talking in their respective D+1, all 3 were 2022 draftees and played in the HockeyAllsvenskan in their D+1 like Eriksson did as a 2023 draftee last year.

Lekkerimäki: 0.31
Ostlund: 0.70
Ohgren: 0.56
Eriksson (a year later): 1.142

But I wouldn't put much of anything into that, all 3 had great SHL season last year and we have yet to see Eriksson do a full SHL season.
 

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His skating comes off really well on the smaller NA rink, he has a pretty good mix of agility and explosion. He'll be a speedster once he's gained some lower body muscle.
 
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Do you think that he can have the same impact of a Jesper Bratt? Bratt have been selected 6th round.

I know they are different players, but do you think that this guy top 6 potential at NHL level?
 

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Do you think that he can have the same impact of a Jesper Bratt? Bratt have been selected 6th round.

I know they are different players, but do you think that this guy top 6 potential at NHL level?
We will have a pretty good idea of what he could be after this season. If he can impose himself in the SHL and produce over 0,5ppg as a 19yo, then yes, NHL top 6 is possible.
 

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I suspect they’re targeting (with late picks especially) players that have a nice development curve when looking at D-1 and D0 year, betting that they’ll keep improving.

People get too focused on a player's 18 year old season because that is the draft age but there is nothing special about 18 year old players, it is just a snapshot of their development. The fact is that the 19 year old season is more important and kudos to the Habs for recognizing that. Plenty of players have poor 17 year old seasons only to become highly regarded prospect by having a strong 18 year old season. The exact same thing happens with 18 year olds having poor seasons and then follow it up with great 19 year old seasons but people act like they are flawed just because they did it one year later even though they may have caught and surpassed the kids who were drafted a year earlier. All of the sudden they are not given credit for "pedigree" as most people tether this term exclusively to where a player was drafted as an 18 year old.
 

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People get too focused on a player's 18 year old season because that is the draft age but there is nothing special about 18 year old players, it is just a snapshot of their development. The fact is that the 19 year old season is more important and kudos to the Habs for recognizing that. Plenty of players have poor 17 year old seasons only to become highly regarded prospect by having a strong 18 year old season. The exact same thing happens with 18 year olds having poor seasons and then follow it up with great 19 year old seasons but people act like they are flawed just because they did it one year later even though they may have caught and surpassed the kids who were drafted a year earlier. All of the sudden they are not given credit for "pedigree" as most people tether this term exclusively to where a player was drafted as an 18 year old.
Good post , nobody should care how you get there as long as you get there. They did the same thing with the Florian pick , clearly they saw the upside was possible even without the production
 

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Good post , nobody should care how you get there as long as you get there. They did the same thing with the Florian pick , clearly they saw the upside was possible even without the production
In Xhekaj's case his draft year was his first year in the OHL and he was probably still growing. As you said they have to be able to evaluate a players skills and hockey sense. In those cases 19 year old seasons tell a lot about the player. It was obvious when Wyatt Johnston put up 124 pts at 19 that he was going to be a valuable player. In many cases suddenly putting up more pts at 19 or 20 is just a result of being 3 or 4 years older than a lot of their opposition.
 

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Ok nice. If he become just a Jesper Fast impact (I always liked him as a player), I would be very happy.

Not likely but possible. Those later round hits are rare. If we hit with Eriksson, that would be two with Roy and Eriksson. I would not expect that too often.

I do agree with most others... he's our most underrated prospect and flying under the radar because we have so many to follow. Might not be underrated anymore after this next season
 

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Fast is Not likely but possible. Those later round hits are rare. If we hit with Eriksson, that would be two with Roy and Eriksson. I would not expect that too often.

I do agree with most others... he's our most underrated prospect and flying under the radar because we have so many to follow. Might not be underrated anymore after this next season
Fast is nothing special. He should have a chance to be something similar.
 

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