Speculation: 2022 Summer/off season Sharks Roster Discussion

[themelkman]

Eklund, Bystedt, and a 2023 1st for Tkachuk?

I would imagine they ask Bordeleau instead of Bystadt but that would probably do it

 

[Selachimorpha]

Eklund, Bystedt, and a 2023 1st for Tkachuk?

Tkachuk and a 7th

 

[fasterthanlight]

NHL's top 30 free agents of 2022

There is no shortage of quality free agents lining up for paydays this summer.

sports.yahoo.com

Yahoo Sports take on top free agents.

How does NHL free agency work? A full guide of what to know before Wednesday

To get hockey fans up to speed, we answered the big questions about NHL free agency.

theathletic.com

Free agency 101

Ranking every NHL team’s salary cap situation, from best to worst

We are ranking how much cap space each team will likely have to improve their rosters beyond players who are already under team control.

theathletic.com

Paywall. Sharks at 29.


Does not include Balcers buyout

Out of curiosity, who does the author think has worse cap situation than the sharks?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I would imagine they ask Bordeleau instead of Bystadt but that would probably do it

I feel like even if it's Bordeleau instead of Bystedt, another team would still be able to beat that so I'm not too worried. lol

 

[themelkman]

I feel like even if it's Bordeleau instead of Bystedt, another team would still be able to beat that so I'm not too worried. lol

Really? Eklund is one of the top prospects in the game and our first is sure to be top 10 if not top 5. If NJ was willing to give their first and Holtz im taking the sharks offer every time

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Really? Eklund is one of the top prospects in the game and our first is sure to be top 10 if not top 5. If NJ was willing to give their first and Holtz im taking the sharks offer every time

I would suspect New Jersey would up their offer if they know that Tkachuk is getting an offer like that. New Jersey is much closer to taking the next step and should be more willing to make such a move for a guy like Tkachuk than the Sharks. The Sharks shouldn't have any interest in Tkachuk just because there's no cap space and little futures of value to what would be a rebuilding team in Calgary.

 

[themelkman]

I would suspect New Jersey would up their offer if they know that Tkachuk is getting an offer like that. New Jersey is much closer to taking the next step and should be more willing to make such a move for a guy like Tkachuk than the Sharks. The Sharks shouldn't have any interest in Tkachuk just because there's no cap space and little futures of value to what would be a rebuilding team in Calgary.

We aren’t dealing with the greatest logic here. We have to assume anything’s on the table

 

[Pinkfloyd]

We aren’t dealing with the greatest logic here. We have to assume anything’s on the table

Sure but we also have to look to certain parameters here as well. If we're acquiring Matthew Tkachuk, we need to have at least 8-9 mil to sign him. They have roughly 8 mil in cap space before signing at least Ferraro and Kunin as the RFA's with a consequential increase. You'd probably need to clear about 6 mil to make something like that even happen. Six million that seems unlikely to be cleared if they're not buying out Vlasic and Labanc and Simek or something. To be fair, I'm not expecting a Burns trade to clear cap either plus we'll likely reuse it for a replacement at a lower rate.

 

[hohosaregood]

Sure but we also have to look to certain parameters here as well. If we're acquiring Matthew Tkachuk, we need to have at least 8-9 mil to sign him. They have roughly 8 mil in cap space before signing at least Ferraro and Kunin as the RFA's with a consequential increase. You'd probably need to clear about 6 mil to make something like that even happen. Six million that seems unlikely to be cleared if they're not buying out Vlasic and Labanc and Simek or something. To be fair, I'm not expecting a Burns trade to clear cap either plus we'll likely reuse it for a replacement at a lower rate.

I'm looking at Carolina as a likely candidate for a Burns trade but I can't really figure out what it could be. Maybe Bear+2nd? That fills a spot on the defense, frees up some cap, and you get a future pick. Then use the cap space to build out the middle six.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I'm looking at Carolina as a likely candidate for a Burns trade but I can't really figure out what it could be. Maybe Bear+2nd? That fills a spot on the defense, frees up some cap, and you get a future pick. Then use the cap space to build out the middle six.

I would guess Burns at 6.5 for Gardiner, Bear, and a 2nd but who knows? A Burns trade just needs to happen if he wants to go. The trade market is not one to really wait around for a deal.

 

[STL Shark]

I'm looking at Carolina as a likely candidate for a Burns trade but I can't really figure out what it could be. Maybe Bear+2nd? That fills a spot on the defense, frees up some cap, and you get a future pick. Then use the cap space to build out the middle six.

Would have to take some money back from Carolina I think to make it work or retain a good bit on Burns. Partially why the Dallas destination makes more sense as they have more cap dump types in Khudobin and Faksa to facilitate a trade with. I also have seen too many questions about Bear's work ethic and stuff to think that the Sharks would take him in a trade. Does not seem to align with the new culture/core value stuff that Grier discussed.

I would guess Burns at 6.5 for Gardiner, Bear, and a 2nd but who knows? A Burns trade just needs to happen if he wants to go. The trade market is not one to really wait around for a deal.

Think that Carolina wants Klingberg, but will wait to strike out tomorrow (he's Seattle bound by all accounts) to start down that road.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Would have to take some money back from Carolina I think to make it work or retain a good bit on Burns. Partially why the Dallas destination makes more sense as they have more cap dump types in Khudobin and Faksa to facilitate a trade with. I also have seen too many questions about Bear's work ethic and stuff to think that the Sharks would take him in a trade. Does not seem to align with the new culture/core value stuff that Grier discussed.


Think that Carolina wants Klingberg, but will wait to strike out tomorrow (he's Seattle bound by all accounts) to start down that road.

I think Dallas is the easiest move for all involved as Faksa and Khudobin can be used by the Sharks next year as a depth forward and a 3G respectively. Gardiner has no use really here especially after a lengthy absence but if that's what it takes to move Burns to Carolina, so be it. It's only one year to deal with before letting him go.

 

[LadyStanley]

Out of curiosity, who does the author think has worse cap situation than the sharks?

VGK, Philadelphia, Los Angeles

 

[Hodge]

Burns for Gardiner and a mid round draft pick seems fair. Carolina would actually save real dollars this season even with no salary retained by the Sharks.

 

[themelkman]

Lebrun on the athletic hockey show says a Burns trade will probably not be done anytime tomorrow, something probably later into the summer.

 

[Reggae Shark]

Lebrun on the athletic hockey show says a Burns trade will probably not be done anytime tomorrow, something probably later into the summer.

More good news

 

[LadyStanley]

Wild trade Cam Talbot to Senators for Filip Gustavsson

The Minnesota Wild traded goaltender Cam Talbot to the Ottawa Senators in exchange for goalie Filip Gustavsson on Tuesday. Minnesota is not retaining any of Talbot's salary.

theathletic.com

Sounds like Talbot was not a happy camper sharing net with Flower.

Hmmmm

 

[STL Shark]

Lebrun on the athletic hockey show says a Burns trade will probably not be done anytime tomorrow, something probably later into the summer.

While I don’t like it from our standpoint, I also get it from the standpoint of Burns and the acquiring team(s). They’ll want to see what happens in the market tomorrow and how much room they have and what that means for our potential retention/cap dump situation. While Burns is probably looking to see who makes what moves tomorrow to see where gives him the best chance to chase a Cup that might have room for him.

So sadly, I’m resigned to our moves tomorrow being sign a guy like Vatrano, big bodied 4th liner and a big bodied D-Man while maybe shipping a goalie out the door. I’ll hold out hope for a Labanc+Reimer/Hill to Buffalo move to free up space to go chase a guy like Mikheyev or Burakovsky, but that’s about all we’ve got for tomorrow sadly because the org took so long to make this decision.

 

[themelkman]

While I don’t like it from our standpoint, I also get it from the standpoint of Burns and the acquiring team(s). They’ll want to see what happens in the market tomorrow and how much room they have and what that means for our potential retention/cap dump situation. While Burns is probably looking to see who makes what moves tomorrow to see where gives him the best chance to chase a Cup that might have room for him.

So sadly, I’m resigned to our moves tomorrow being sign a guy like Vatrano, big bodied 4th liner and a big bodied D-Man while maybe shipping a goalie out the door. I’ll hold out hope for a Labanc+Reimer/Hill to Buffalo move to free up space to go chase a guy like Mikheyev or Burakovsky, but that’s about all we’ve got for tomorrow sadly because the org took so long to make this decision.

None of those guys really align with Griers vision of the team so far.

I’m thinking someone like Brenden Lemieux or Nicolas Deslauriers would be a likely addition while we have no cap room.

 

[Kcoyote3]

On an off note, does anyone know how to get the aspect ratio of the page to change back? Before the domain change I felt like the thread titles and boxes went all across the page and now they're like clumped in the center. Tried zooming in and out and it didn't get it right.

Edit: found it! Bottom of the left page, expander button in case anyone was wondering

 

[one2gamble]

On an off note, does anyone know how to get the aspect ratio of the page to change back? Before the domain change I felt like the thread titles and boxes went all across the page and now they're like clumped in the center. Tried zooming in and out and it didn't get it right.

Edit: found it! Bottom of the left page, expander button in case anyone was wondering

I didnt know this was a thing but thanks

 

[STL Shark]

None of those guys really align with Griers vision of the team so far.

I’m thinking someone like Brenden Lemieux or Nicolas Deslauriers would be a likely addition while we have no cap room.

Given Vatrano was acquired at the TDL by the Rangers when Grier was there, I’d say he aligns pretty well. Unless he just ignores the success that he had post-acquisition and in the playoffs for NYR.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Burns after getting his signing bonus paid tomorrow will be owed only 13 million dollars over the last 3 years. That's not bad.

 

[KirbyDots]

Some names that Sharks could be looking at that fit Griers archetype and that we could possibly afford, Mason Marchment, Evan Rodrigues, Andrew Copp, Frank Vetrano, and Max Domi,

Andre Burakovsky, Ondrej Palat, and Nino Niederreiter would be the next tier up and there would have to be some major capspace made, like Burns and Banker.

Kadri, Malkin, and Giroux types are probably a pipedream. You have to get the player to actually want to come play in San Jose.

 

[Gecklund]

Some names that Sharks could be looking at that fit Griers archetype and that we could possibly afford, Mason Marchment, Evan Rodrigues, Andrew Copp, Frank Vetrano, and Max Domi,

Andre Burakovsky, Ondrej Palat, and Nino Niederreiter would be the next tier up and there would have to be some major capspace made, like Burns and Banker.

Kadri, Malkin, and Giroux types are probably a pipedream. You have to get the player to actually want to come play in San Jose.

I could see Domi.