Yes sir, one of my proudest moments was to predict that Red Wings pick Kienan Draper.I'm just curious, has anyone gotten a pick right outside of the first round in say... the past 5 years?
Zion Nybeck
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Carter Savoie
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Lucas Mercuri
Lucas Mercuri at eliteprospects.com
Alexander Pashin
Alexander Pashin at eliteprospects.com
Artem Shlaine
Artem Shlaine at eliteprospects.com
and couple legacy picks
Kienan Draper
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Philippe Lapointe
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All the other predictions were waaayyy off and luckily so, reading them now is just pure horror. Some users had Niederbach and Wallinder, i remember thinking of Niederbach back in 2020 that he seemed a bit like a Hakan-pick. Wallinder was a #20 overall pick in my list in 2020.#187 Jack Smith
-I don't know anything anything about Jack Smith, he seems to be left handed forward from Minnesota. In my list, the last draft pick is Kienan Draper. But i didn't find him or then he was already picked in the draft simulator.
I don't have receipts but Jonatan Berggren was my guy in 2018. Also Wallinder I said would be a target but that was alongside a whole group of guysI'm just curious, has anyone gotten a pick right outside of the first round in say... the past 5 years?
What are you asking about?I'm just curious, has anyone gotten a pick right outside of the first round in say... the past 5 years?
Predicted a Red Wings Rd 2 -7 pick correctly.What are you asking about?
If we ranked someone outside the first and they became good? Or if someone predicted who Detroit drafted outside the first?
These threads are for rankings… not a mock draft.
Just about all top 10 picks are on someone's draft list.I'm just curious, has anyone gotten a pick right outside of the first round in say... the past 5 years?
Just about all top 10 picks are on someone's draft list.
In round 2 and beyond -
Last year I had Buium and Savage and even Dower-Nilsson on my draft list.
The year before I had Wallinder, Niederbach, Hanas, Bednar and Cotton on my draft list.
It's still too early to make my list right now but I feel like I'm starting to get closer to a list.
I usually go about 60 deep.Well if you make a list of 100+ prospects, obviously some of them are going to be picked. That's not the same as having one prospect per pick.
You list isn't so much a draft list as it is a prospects ranking, based off of other rankings. It's not like you're watching videos on every single kid. Last draft I watched every video available on Edvinsson and Clarke, and the choice was obvious for me.
Predicted a Red Wings Rd 2 -7 pick correctly.
What's the point of doing the research if they don't get picked by your team? I just stick to the first pick because that is easier to predict, and the top 10 players in the draft usually have a lasting career in the NHL, except maybe Zadina. He sucks, lol.
Well if you make a list of 100+ prospects, obviously some of them are going to be picked. That's not the same as having one prospect per pick.
You list isn't so much a draft list as it is a prospects ranking, based off of other rankings. It's not like you're watching videos on every single kid. Last draft I watched every video available on Edvinsson and Clarke, and the choice was obvious for me.
1. Shane Wright |
2. Logan Cooley |
3. Juraj Slafkovsky |
4. Simon Nemec |
5. Frank Nazar |
6. Joakim Kemell |
7. Matthew Savoie |
8. Marco Kasper |
9. Danila Yurov |
10. Cutter Gauthier |
11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki |
12. Brad Lambert |
13. Pavel Mintyukov |
14. David Jiricek |
15. Conor Geekie |
16. Noah Ostlund |
17. Liam Ohgren |
18. Jiri Kulich |
19. Filip Mesar |
20. Gleb Trikozov |
21. Ivan Miroshnichenko |
22. Denton Mateychuk |
23. Lane Hutson |
24. Isaac Howard |
25. Jimmy Snuggerud |
26. Calle Odelius |
27. Jagger Firkus |
28. Adam Sykora |
29. Owen Beck |
30. Seamus Casey |
31. Kevin Korchinski |
32. Rutger McGroarty |
33. Ty Nelson |
34. Lian Bichsel |
35. Filip Bystedt |
36. Luca Del Bel Belluz |
37. Christian Kyrou |
38. Alexander Suzdalev |
39. Matyas Sapovaliv |
40. Alexander Perevalov |
41. Arseni Koromyslov |
42. Vladimir Grudinin |
43. Tristan Luneau |
44. Hunter Haight |
45. David Goyette |
46. Reid Schaeffer |
47. Jani Nyman |
48. Jordan Dumais |
49. Cameron Lund |
50. Ryan Greene |
51. Noah Warren |
52. Danny Zhilkin |
53. Kasper Kulonumi |
54. Nathan Gaucher |
55. Matthew Poitras |
56. Aleksanteri Kaskimaki |
57. Maveric Lamoreux |
58. Vinzenz Rohrer |
59. Filip Nordberg |
60. Rieger Lorenz |
61. Bryce McConnell Barker |
62. Jake Karabela |
63. Jordan Gustafsson |
64. Mats Lindgren |
65. Ruslan Gazizov |
1. Montreal Canadiens: Shane Wright
- Not the best player in this draft imo but probably most guaranteed pick. Since every insider and expert have Wright as 1st overall, im not gonna fight the windmills here.
2. New Jersey Devils: Juraj Slafkovsky
- I can not think of anyone who's more perfect pick than Slafkovsky for the Devils. Future top-6 powerforward & PP1 net front guy and perfect linemate for Hughes and Hischier.
3. Arizona Coyotes: Matt Savoie
- Best player in this draft imo. Elite hockey IQ, elite hands, elite speed, everything what Savoie does is elite. His size and uncertainty of his position drops him a bit and also because Slaf is a perfect fit for the Devils. But i wouldn't worry about his position, Savoie is elite, it doesn't matter if he's center or winger. He's also quite stocky already and his going to get more muscle on the way.
4. Seattle Kraken: Simon Nemec
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I'd get it one piece at a time and it wouldn't cost me a dime I've heard from reliable source that Ron Francis sings this song all the time. Last year he selected his center foundation piece, this year is defenseman turn.
5. Philadelphia Flyers: Logan Cooley
- Lucky day for Philly, BPA and they get Giroux's replacement immediately.
6. Columbus Blue Jackets: David Jiricek
- Last year Kekäläinen picked every center who wasn't nailed down, but Seth Jones hasn't been replaced yet. But Jiricek will fix that problem.
7. Ottawa Senators: Jonatan Lekkerimäki
- This is like asking what to give a rich person as a birthday gift. Ottawa wants more goals, therefore best sniper in this draft goes to Ottawa.
8. Detroit Red Wings: Marco Kasper
- fast, smart, hard working 200-foot game center who plays in SHL. Yzerman is written all over this one.
9. Buffalo Sabres: Cutter Gauthier
- Buffalo is looking to change the team culture and there's no better way than to draft Gauthier.
10. Anaheim Ducks: Kevin Korchinski
- Pat Verbeek worked several years for Yzerman and he learned one thing, you can never go wrong when you pick a mobile 6'2'' defenseman.
11. San Jose Sharks: Conor Geekie
- Sharks keep building their future core, adding one more potential top-6 center
12. Columbus Blue Jackets: Frank Nazar the 3rd
- BPA, Kekäläinen steals another center.
13. New York Islanders: Joakim Kemell
- Isles needs offense and goals, Kemell brings in both.
14. Winnipeg Jets: Denton Mateychuk
- Sounds like there's going to be rebuild in Winnipeg, but at least the defense needs re-tooling. Mateychuk is a good piece to start with.
15. Vancouver Canucks: Danila Yurov
- BPA, they got Podkolzin already and they signed Kuzmenko. It is going to be easier lure Yurov along when he has his fellow russians already in the team.
16. Buffalo Sabres: Brad Lambert
- Buffalo takes a calculated risk, Lambert has the skill but he still needs maturing.
17. Nashville Predators: Rutger McGroarty
- BPA
18. Dallas Stars: Isaac Howard
- Skill is disappearing from Dallas, Howard can change that.
19. Los Angeles Kings: Jimmy Snuggerud
- Dustin Brown's replacement eventually.
20. Washington Capitols: Pavel Mintyukov
- BPA
21. Pittsburg Penguins: Liam Öhgren
- Could be a future trade bait or one first pieces of post-Crosby era.
22. Anaheim Ducks: Noah Östlund
- Middle-6 center/winger, nice backup to have if and when Zegras/McTavish gets injured.
23. St. Louis Blues: Tristan Luneau
- Once young and powerful Blues D-corps is starting to age up, they should start preparing for a re-tooling. Since d-men takes longer to develop.
24. Minnesota Wild: Ivan Miroshnichenko
- Minnesota use to be Finnesota, but now Minnesota have newly found success with russian's. At this point Miroshnichenko is worh to gamble.
25. Toronto Maple Leafs: Ryan Chesley
- Another cheap d-men in sight, in the near future for the Leafs.
26. Montreal Canadiens: Nathan Gaucher
- Since the draft is in Montreal, Habs has to pick a kid from QMJHL.
27. Arizona Coyotes: Lian Bichsel
- Coyotes haven't really stocked up their defense yet but now with the 2nd first round pick they take the best d-man available.
28. Buffalo Sabres: Maveric Lamoureux
- A pair for Power.
29. Edmonton Oilers: Filip Mesar
- Kenny goes BPA, salary cap requires Oilers to find skill.
30. Winnipeg Jets: Owen Pickering
- Jets keeps building their blueline.
31. Tampa Bay Lightning: Jiri Kulich
- BPA
32. Arizona Coyotes: Ty Nelson
- Another D-man to Arizona and a potential pair for Bichsel.
Damn, I straight up forgot to rank Owen Pickering :/Made the final touches to my rankings now that the draft is only a couple weeks away. As you go down the list the less I've seen of guys so bear that in mind. The top 32 I have quite a bit of confidence in however. Nazar, Kemell, Savoie, and Kasper are all interchangeable to me at 8, you can even add Yurov and Gauthier to that mix
1. Shane Wright 2. Logan Cooley 3. Juraj Slafkovsky 4. Simon Nemec 5. Frank Nazar 6. Joakim Kemell 7. Matthew Savoie 8. Marco Kasper 9. Danila Yurov 10. Cutter Gauthier 11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki 12. Brad Lambert 13. Pavel Mintyukov 14. David Jiricek 15. Conor Geekie 16. Noah Ostlund 17. Liam Ohgren 18. Jiri Kulich 19. Filip Mesar 20. Gleb Trikozov 21. Ivan Miroshnichenko 22. Denton Mateychuk 23. Lane Hutson 24. Isaac Howard 25. Jimmy Snuggerud 26. Calle Odelius 27. Jagger Firkus 28. Adam Sykora 29. Owen Beck 30. Seamus Casey 31. Kevin Korchinski 32. Rutger McGroarty 33. Ty Nelson 34. Lian Bichsel 35. Filip Bystedt 36. Luca Del Bel Belluz 37. Christian Kyrou 38. Alexander Suzdalev 39. Matyas Sapovaliv 40. Alexander Perevalov 41. Arseni Koromyslov 42. Vladimir Grudinin 43. Tristan Luneau 44. Hunter Haight 45. David Goyette 46. Reid Schaeffer 47. Jani Nyman 48. Jordan Dumais 49. Cameron Lund 50. Ryan Greene 51. Noah Warren 52. Danny Zhilkin 53. Kasper Kulonumi 54. Nathan Gaucher 55. Matthew Poitras 56. Aleksanteri Kaskimaki 57. Maveric Lamoreux 58. Vinzenz Rohrer 59. Filip Nordberg 60. Rieger Lorenz 61. Bryce McConnell Barker 62. Jake Karabela 63. Jordan Gustafsson 64. Mats Lindgren 65. Ruslan Gazizov
Isaac Howard?1. Shane Wright
2. Logan Cooley
3. Juraj Slafkovsky
4. Marco Kasper
5. Frank Nazar
6. Cutter Gauthier
7. Pavel Mintyukov
8. Simon Nemec
9. Matthew Savoie
10. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
11. Gleb Trikozov
Beyond 8th and into the 2nd round.
12. Danila Yurov
13. Conor Geekie
14. Brad Lambert
15. Owen Pickering
16. David Jiricek
17. Lian Bichsel
18. Joakim Kemell
19. Liam Ohgren
20. Jiri Kulich
21. Ivan Miroschniichenko
22. Filip Mesar
23. Adam Sykora
24. Julian Lutz
25. David Goyette
26. Matyas Sapoliv
27. Danny Zhilkin
28. Jimmy Snuggerud
29. Kevin Korchinski
30. Denton Mateychuk
31. Nathan Gaucher
32. Noah Ostlund
33. Danill Ivanov
34. Elias Salomonsson
35. Ryan Chelsey
36. Calle Odelius
37. Sam Rinzel
38. Owen Beck
Late 2nd - 3rd and 4th
39. Nikita Grebyonkin
40. Jani Nyman
41. Lane Hutson
42. Jagger Firkus
43. Artyom Duda
44. Vincenz Rohrer
45. Daniil Orlov
46. Alexander Pelevin
47. Alexander Perevalov
48. Filip Bystedt
49. Maveric Lamoureux
50. Dennis Hildeby
51. Hunter Haight
52. Seamus Casey
53. Viktor Neuchev
54. Isaiah George
55. Noah Warren
56. Topias Leinonen
57. Devin Kaplan
58. Tyler Brennan
59. Ryan Greene
60. Michael Fisher
61. Mats Lindgren
62. Rieger Lorenz
63. Aleksanteri Kaskimaki
Round 5 and beyond
64. Mattias Havelid
65. Beau Jelsma
66. Jackson Edward
67. Dmiitri Buchelnikov
68. Yegor Savikov
69. Topi Ronni
70. Vladimir Grudinin
71. Luca Del Bel Beluz
72. Alexander Suzdalev
73. Tristan Luneau
74. Yaroslav Yapparov
75. Reid Schaeffer
76. Ty Nelson
77. George Fegaras
78. Jack Hughes
79. Dominik Rymon
80. Timofei Davydov
81. Brandon Lisowski
82. Paul Ludwinski
83. Fabian Wagner
84. Aaron Pionk
85. Gavin Hayes
86. Alexis Gendron
87. Otto Salin
88. Michael Buchinger
89. Garrett Schifsky
90. Adam Ingram
91. Frederic Brunet
92. Jak Vaarwerk
93. Gabriel Koch
94. Joey Muldowney
95. Ruslan Gazikov
96. Gustav Karlsson
97. Markus Vidicek
98. Mikko Matikka
99. Daniil Bourosh
100. Kirill Steklov
101. Jordan Dumais
102. Max Namestnikov
103. Domenic Divincentiis
104. Jake Furlong
105. Ludvig Markman
106. Cedrick Guindon
107. Vinny Borgesi
108. Alex Sotek
109. Lucas Edmonds
110. Charles-Alexis Legault
111. Marc-Andre Gaudet
112. Ryan Healy
113. Vasili Dronyk
114. Linus Hemstom
115. Kasper Magnussen
116. Filip Nordberg
117. Jake Karabela
118. Marian Mosko
119. Julien Beland
120. Michael Mastrodomenico
121. Ludwig Persson
122. Justin Cote
123. Barrett Hall
124. Evan Boucher
125. Martin Johnsen
126. Nick Pierre
127. David Spacek
128. Maxim Barbashev
129. Jacob Newcombe
130. Colton Smith
131. Cole Knuble
132. Zam Plante
Don't know the man.Isaac Howard?
Have since talked myself out of Gauthier and think I was a little low on Mintyukov and Jiricek. Yurov falling due to Russian factor getting worse.Made the final touches to my rankings now that the draft is only a couple weeks away. As you go down the list the less I've seen of guys so bear that in mind. The top 32 I have quite a bit of confidence in however. Nazar, Kemell, Savoie, and Kasper are all interchangeable to me at 8, you can even add Yurov and Gauthier to that mix
1. Shane Wright 2. Logan Cooley 3. Juraj Slafkovsky 4. Simon Nemec 5. Frank Nazar 6. Joakim Kemell 7. Matthew Savoie 8. Marco Kasper 9. Danila Yurov 10. Cutter Gauthier 11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki 12. Brad Lambert 13. Pavel Mintyukov 14. David Jiricek 15. Conor Geekie 16. Noah Ostlund 17. Liam Ohgren 18. Jiri Kulich 19. Filip Mesar 20. Gleb Trikozov 21. Ivan Miroshnichenko 22. Denton Mateychuk 23. Lane Hutson 24. Isaac Howard 25. Jimmy Snuggerud 26. Calle Odelius 27. Jagger Firkus 28. Adam Sykora 29. Owen Beck 30. Seamus Casey 31. Kevin Korchinski 32. Rutger McGroarty 33. Ty Nelson 34. Lian Bichsel 35. Filip Bystedt 36. Luca Del Bel Belluz 37. Christian Kyrou 38. Alexander Suzdalev 39. Matyas Sapovaliv 40. Alexander Perevalov 41. Arseni Koromyslov 42. Vladimir Grudinin 43. Tristan Luneau 44. Hunter Haight 45. David Goyette 46. Reid Schaeffer 47. Jani Nyman 48. Jordan Dumais 49. Cameron Lund 50. Ryan Greene 51. Noah Warren 52. Danny Zhilkin 53. Kasper Kulonumi 54. Nathan Gaucher 55. Matthew Poitras 56. Aleksanteri Kaskimaki 57. Maveric Lamoreux 58. Vinzenz Rohrer 59. Filip Nordberg 60. Rieger Lorenz 61. Bryce McConnell Barker 62. Jake Karabela 63. Jordan Gustafsson 64. Mats Lindgren 65. Ruslan Gazizov
I think Howard is one of the guys I could end up being most wrong about. His production was right up there with Nazar and Cooley.Don't know the man.
There are probably a bunch of these guys who I never wanted/looked at, in part because of where they are ranked, and who I skipped as I was filling the list out.
Looking at him now, a 5'9-5'10 LW who scores 6/9 on skill and will probably be gone at 40 - so I doubt It matters much to my list.
I went through the Black Book and transcribed the players and their ratings in the five areas. Good way to find new players who didn't earn a rank/rating.
Yeah, to be honest I never looked at him until you pointed him out.I think Howard is one of the guys I could end up being most wrong about. His production was right up there with Nazar and Cooley.