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NHL 2022-out of town thread III - Marty Walsh reportedly in the mix to become director of NHL Players’ Association
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UncleRico
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Fine disregard the defense. I’ll gladly take Horvats 30+ goals a year and 54% in the face off dot at $8.5m than Zacha as a future top 6 center at $4.5 who has never scored more than 17 goals and has a 46% face off percentage.
It's possible that Krejci's family could decide to move to Boston for next season, but it makes no sense. The time to do that would have been when they first returned to the US, not 9+ months later after they've already gotten settled into SC and into local schools etc. Can't completely rule it out I suppose, but at present all the signs point to this year being one and done for DK.
quietbruinfan
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At least we agree on that. I do not like Zacha. He needs to go to power skating school. Then, I think they would really have something.
LouJersey
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Rangers’ Jacob Trouba delivers helmet-launching hit, dominates ensuing fight
Jacob Trouba was at it again – delivering massive hits and winning fights.
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Man do I wish Carlo had that nasty in his game
Rangers’ Jacob Trouba delivers helmet-launching hit, dominates ensuing fight
Jacob Trouba was at it again – delivering massive hits and winning fights.
Man do I wish Carlo had that nasty in his game
It would be nice. Trouba also milked two PPs out of the Flames with his hits - both clean, both needlessly met with an immediate response of a fight by Calgary players, both resulting in the officials for once doing their jobs properly and calling instigator penalties against the Flames. 2nd PP, the Rangers scored. In a game that they won in OT, that was an important goal. Trouba wears the 'C' for a reason.
Come on man, no guessing about it. That was one massive hit and another good hit directly resulting in fights right after. In an age of cookie cutter games, as Frank Avruch said, "That's Entertainment"!!!
We will see as the price differential is huge. I absolutely give you chops for making a case. Could go either way honestly.
As bad as Van was they had some really high end offensive players in Petterson, Miller and Hughes along with solid 2nd and 3rd line guys like Boeser, Kuz and even Garland until this year.
NYI after Barzal are lacking anyone upfront remotely dynamic offensively literally under 30. That's a huge load to carry.
Zacha will have Pastrnak and DeBrusk on his line under 27.
LouJersey
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The NHL is going to have to do amnesty buyouts at some point or nobody will get paid down the road. Many of these deals are going to age very poorly
KrejciMVP
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looks like the Panthers are making their playoff push after a bad start. Also quite something to see how far down in the standings the Avalanche are.
Nothing wrong with that hit. What I wouldn't give to see McAvoy or Lindholm (Carlo's a lost cause in this department) hammer someone like that. Connor Clifton tries but his lack of heft prevents him from doing much damage.
Sheshterkin isn't playing out of his mind the way he did last year and teams have begun to figure him out, a double whammy that's biting the Rangers hard. Gallant keeps riding him because unfortunately Halak's lost his mojo, he hasn't played well in the games I've watched him play. Krieder is another one who's come back down to earth, he's not scoring at nearly the same pace he did last year.
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Like a lot of us, I'm sure, I subscribe to some hockey related FB pages. Over the last day or so a couple of different ones have touched on who is the 2nd best defenseman after Orr.
Not surprising I'm sure is that I have Bourque there -- among those I've seen play.
I simply cannot believe the number of people who reply with something along the lines of:
Lidstrom, hands down way ahead of Bourque.
Now, first of all, I'm not taking a thing away for Lidstrom, as I'd have him probably 3rd on the list.
But the lack of awareness regarding Bourque's career --- even among those old enough to have seen him play is astounding.
When I pointed out Bourque's far superior offensive stats, one guy said but Lidstrom was the best defensive defenseman ever.
At which point I said -- OK give him a 10 for defense --- Bourque still gets at least an 8.5/9 ---
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Giving Bourque a 10 for offense ---- I say Lidstrom is a 7.5/8.
Then the Norris comments come in -- Nic 7 --- Bourque 5.
However, Bourque had a Calder, 7 more AS Selections and was Hart Runner Up 2x -- where Lidstrom never got higher than 3rd.
Plus I rattled off a list of Forwards who Bourque outscored in his career -- all HOF guys and it's amazing --- quick sample --- Hull, Modano, Hawerchuk, Recchi, Gilmour ---- etc.
Again, not saying Lidstrom isn't in the mix --- but to read some of the stupid takes about Bourque is laughable.
Not surprising I'm sure is that I have Bourque there -- among those I've seen play.
I simply cannot believe the number of people who reply with something along the lines of:
Lidstrom, hands down way ahead of Bourque.
Now, first of all, I'm not taking a thing away for Lidstrom, as I'd have him probably 3rd on the list.
But the lack of awareness regarding Bourque's career --- even among those old enough to have seen him play is astounding.
When I pointed out Bourque's far superior offensive stats, one guy said but Lidstrom was the best defensive defenseman ever.
At which point I said -- OK give him a 10 for defense --- Bourque still gets at least an 8.5/9 ---
but
Giving Bourque a 10 for offense ---- I say Lidstrom is a 7.5/8.
Then the Norris comments come in -- Nic 7 --- Bourque 5.
However, Bourque had a Calder, 7 more AS Selections and was Hart Runner Up 2x -- where Lidstrom never got higher than 3rd.
Plus I rattled off a list of Forwards who Bourque outscored in his career -- all HOF guys and it's amazing --- quick sample --- Hull, Modano, Hawerchuk, Recchi, Gilmour ---- etc.
Again, not saying Lidstrom isn't in the mix --- but to read some of the stupid takes about Bourque is laughable.
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Records can be deceiving. Rangers have had to work a lot harder for their wins this year because Sheshterkin doesn't have a horseshoe up his butt.
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missingchicklet
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Trouba is quite adept at making borderline hits. That being said, his hit on Kadri was a real beauty. The fact that it was against Kadri made it even better. I still remember what that puke did to Wingels and Jake.
KrejciMVP
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Recency bias. 20 years from now we will have to listen to how much better than Lidstrom Karlsson or Makar were. As to the Norris argument, Bourque got robbed for the Norris at least twice, whereas Lidstrom stole at least one, probably 2, from Chara.
Smitty93
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Next season is really the last one to be concerned. Cap will start to consistently increase. Deals signed now will be fine.
LouJersey
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I’ll say what everyone else is thinking. Lidstrom was overrated
Bourque should not have beaten out Scott Stevens one year IMO but I think he also got robbed three times
Teams may have 20 plus million of dead weight by then. I guess the same could be said now
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