NHL Entry Draft 2022 NHL Draft Thread - Part 2

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He was producing around 1 point per game for most of the year up until the last time he was sent down from the KHL.

That's not where you want his production to be as a potential top 5 pick playing in the MHL in his 18YR old season.

This is Yurov's rolling PPG average. I don't think I need to say anything else.

G1: 2.00
G2: 3.00
G3: 2.67
G4: 2.25
G5: 2
G6: 2
G7: 1.86
G8: 1.63
G9: 1.44
G10: 1.5
G11: 1.45
G12: 1.42
G13: 1.31
G14: 1.29
G15: 1.27
G16: 1.31
G17: 1.41
G18: 1.39
G19: 1.37
G20: 1.5
G21: 1.62
 
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This is Yurov's rolling PPG average. I don't think I need to say anything else.

G1: 2.00
G2: 3.00
G3: 2.67
G4: 2.25
G5: 2
G6: 2
G7: 1.86
G8: 1.63
G9: 1.44
G10: 1.5
G11: 1.45
G12: 1.42
G13: 1.31
G14: 1.29
G15: 1.27
G16: 1.31
G17: 1.41
G18: 1.39
G19: 1.37
G20: 1.5
G21: 1.62

He's a good prospect, but a big goose egg in the KHL is detrimental for him being an outright top-5 pick.
 
This is Yurov's rolling PPG average. I don't think I need to say anything else.

G1: 2.00
G2: 3.00
G3: 2.67
G4: 2.25
G5: 2
G6: 2
G7: 1.86
G8: 1.63
G9: 1.44
G10: 1.5
G11: 1.45
G12: 1.42
G13: 1.31
G14: 1.29
G15: 1.27
G16: 1.31
G17: 1.41
G18: 1.39
G19: 1.37
G20: 1.5
G21: 1.62

Ok so around 1 PPG was a bit of an exaggeration, but my point was that the 21 points in 16 games before this torrid 5 game stretch is disappointing production for a potential top 5 pick who's a 2003-born.
 
Ok so around 1 PPG was a bit of an exaggeration, but my point was that the 21 points in 16 games before this torrid 5 game stretch is disappointing production for a potential top 5 pick who's a 2003-born.

December 22 of 2003. Ten days younger and he would be the third highest p/g in the 13 year history of the MHL (just a shade ahead of Trikozov this year, by the way), only behind Kucherov and Michkov. When assessing prospects by numbers, context is crucial. It's always been very common for bigger, pro-translatable players to go very early in the draft without particularly gaudy numbers. And Danila Yurov is as pro-translatable as they come.

It's kinda funny, regarding the other fellow who posted about Yurov's lack of production in KHL, I remember having that same debate about Lucas Raymond all year long in his draft year. Would really think people would have learned a lesson from that. I said all along Lucas Raymond was one of the most NHL-translatable prospects I've ever seen and he wasn't scoring because he was on the 4th line being a safe, mature, reliable pro, respecting the league and deferring to his veteran teammates. KHL is a significantly stronger league than SHL. Yurov is maybe not quite on the same level as Raymond, but he's in that ballpark. Clearly the most NHL-translatable player for this year's draft class.
 
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Here's some steals by Yurov. In the first video from 5NU17s (#25 on the RW), he steals the puck twice in one shift. The other two from MHL (#22) lead directly to goals.





 
Like I said, this draft underrated and solid at the top.

Oh absolutely. I remember looking at it coming into the season and thinking it would all come down to Canada, which was very much a question mark after the mostly lost season last year. It looks like an all-time draft class for Russia, with Miro and Yurov probable top 10 and potential top 5, and then Mintyukov, Trikozov, Perevelov all likely first rounders, some maybe even top 15 or 20. Will be Russia's best class since at least 2010, maybe one of their best ever since NHL started drafting out of Russia in the late 80s. Slovakia, led by Slafkovsky, Nemec, Mesar, will have their best class since the early 2000s when they were producing the likes of Gaborik and Hossa. Nothing special out of Sweden and Finland but both look like typically strong classes. USA looks to have their best draft class since the all-time class of 2019, and well above average.

But since Canada makes up about a third of the draft every year, and was the only country that surrendered most of its season to covid last year, there was a big question mark, which is what led to all this talk of it being a weak draft class. People also seem to have forgot that players need to play hockey to develop, so it's still tough to get a proper read, as many of the Canadian (especially Ontarian) players are still catching up to their European and American peers after losing a year of development. There are years where you could comprise the entire top ten from Canadian players. This year we have only Wright, Savoie, Geekie as clear-cut top ten candidates, beyond that it looks fairly deep but the picture is still very unclear to me; real NHL scouts will have a much better idea by now, and when Bob's final list comes out we'll see a much closer reflection of where the Canadians will rank. Definitely a somewhat below average class for Canada, which brings the total quality of the draft down, but still looks like at least an average, maybe slightly above average class overall.
 
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We could use another top line center, a scoring power forward and a two way RD.

Those are basically the pieces we have in place already.

Top line centers - Stutzle, Norris, maybe Pinto.
Scoring poward forward - Brady, Drake
2 way RD - JBD, Thomson

What's really needed is a sniper on the RW and a top 4 RD with size and aggression.

That being said, always draft BPA.

Assen na yo!
 
Those are basically the pieces we have in place already.

Top line centers - Stutzle, Norris, maybe Pinto.
Scoring poward forward - Brady, Drake
2 way RD - JBD, Thomson

What's really needed is a sniper on the RW and a top 4 RD with size and aggression.

That being said, always draft BPA.

Assen na yo!

I would like the addition of a sniper on the RW and a top 4 RD with size and aggression!

I don't see JBD as a 2 way RD. Thomson maybe. Norris wight be a better RW than a top line C.
 
I would like the addition of a sniper on the RW and a top 4 RD with size and aggression!

I don't see JBD as a 2 way RD. Thomson maybe. Norris wight be a better RW than a top line C.
I'm a little surprised when people don't see JBD as a top 4 two way RD. What is missing in your opinion.
 
I'm a little surprised when people don't see JBD as a top 4 two way RD. What is missing in your opinion.

I think JBD is more of defensive player than an offensive one, or a 2-way defenseman. Sanderson seems to have more offensive skills than JBD. Thomson seems to have more offensive skills than JBD but I am not confident that he will become an offensive Defenseman in the NHL.
 
I'm a little surprised when people don't see JBD as a top 4 two way RD. What is missing in your opinion.

Offensive puck carrying ability. I have not seen much of it yet from him. I have seen some glimpses but not enough to say that he will become a major offensive force or 2-way D. Branny has shown a lot more to me.
 
It is worth noting that Tkachuk trained with the USNTDP U18 team while his contract situation was being resolved. I remember him speaking highly about the players he practiced with and said he hopes the Sens draft a few of them in the next draft. Tkachuk might just be biased towards American players and particularly ones that player for the USNTDP but there is a good chance he gave some honest assessments to Dorion and Mann and that they may be influenced by his assessments come draft time.

The top ranked USNTDP players in this draft are: Logan Cooley, Cutter Gauthier, Frank Nazar, Isaac Howard, Ryan Chesley, Jimmy Snuggerud and Rutger McGroarty.

I'm not sure if we take a USNTDP player if we pick fairly high but if we fall to the 10-15 range I could see the Sens valuing Cutter Gauthier and Rutger McGroarty fairly highly.
 
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I'm a little surprised when people don't see JBD as a top 4 two way RD. What is missing in your opinion.

I see bottom pair dman on a great team who could slide up to top 4 if need be.

He looks to be just average at everything with no glaring weaknesses but no obvious strengths either.

Defensive dman that can make a decent first pass type.
 
Those are basically the pieces we have in place already.

Top line centers - Stutzle, Norris, maybe Pinto.
Scoring poward forward - Brady, Drake
2 way RD - JBD, Thomson

What's really needed is a sniper on the RW and a top 4 RD with size and aggression.

That being said, always draft BPA.

Assen na yo!

Norris isn't a top line C. Stutzle TBD. Pinto is a #2/#3. I see Drake more as a sniper than a PWF.

We'll need to address the #1C at some point if Stutzle isn't it. I see that being our main issue moreso than the D situation. We can easily trade for a top 4 RD when the time is right.
 
I see bottom pair dman on a great team who could slide up to top 4 if need be.

He looks to be just average at everything with no glaring weaknesses but no obvious strengths either.

Defensive dman that can make a decent first pass type.

I've said Oduya/Demelo a lot, in terms of realistic expectation. Oduya being higher potential, Demelo being more conservative.
 
Norris isn't a top line C. Stutzle TBD. Pinto is a #2/#3. I see Drake more as a sniper than a PWF.

We'll need to address the #1C at some point if Stutzle isn't it. I see that being our main issue moreso than the D situation. We can easily trade for a top 4 RD when the time is right.

I agree with you about Norris not being a top line C; he seems to be a shooter more than a playmaker and a complementary player rather than one who makes other players better. I still like him but see him as a 2nd line center. I want a more dynamic offensive playmaking/scoring center on my top line. Stutzle might become that.
 
I've compared JBD to a DeMelo without a muffin of a shot, but I'm now skeptical that he has the same kind of puck moving ability as DeMelo.

Eye test hasn't been kind to his passing ability at the NHL level and 1 assist in 24 AHL games doesn't give me confidence either.

Looking more like a potential bottom pairing D than a top 4 D right now, but it's still early.
 
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Offensive puck carrying ability. I have not seen much of it yet from him. I have seen some glimpses but not enough to say that he will become a major offensive force or 2-way D. Branny has shown a lot more to me.
Major offensive force is far from 2 way D.
 
I see bottom pair dman on a great team who could slide up to top 4 if need be.

He looks to be just average at everything with no glaring weaknesses but no obvious strengths either.

Defensive dman that can make a decent first pass type.
I see him developing into a completely reliable top 4 D who makes nice outlet passes and chips in about 30 points. He's not going to be leading the rush or running a PP but will contribute offensively.
 
Norris isn't a top line C. Stutzle TBD. Pinto is a #2/#3. I see Drake more as a sniper than a PWF.

We'll need to address the #1C at some point if Stutzle isn't it. I see that being our main issue moreso than the D situation. We can easily trade for a top 4 RD when the time is right.

Tbh yes I get that we do need a 1C I think an elite top 4 D could somewhat mitigate the blow. Right now we sorta have a 2A/2B. Norris seems to be trending to a lower end 1C.

Unless we win the lottery we aren't getting a 1C.

Im somewhat torn we keep winning and we are creeping up to be stuck in mediocrity. We might be playing ourselves out of Slafkovsky,Kemell and moreso into the Lambert, Nazar tier
 
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