Kravtsov will be lucky to fetch a 2nd right now, but he doesn't have a future here in NY. I like Nils as a prospect but you can not win in the playoffs with 2/3 smallish defensemen. Although I think both are very good prospects with the Rangers being committed to Fox (and there is no reason to not be committed to him) , no way we can have Nils and Jones in the lineup with him. So if you can move 2 assets that are not going to play for you to get to 15th and possibly get a future 2nd line center you do it every day of the week.
Luckily this is not going to happen. For 15th overall? Terrible value IMO. If Krav is lucky to fetch a 2nd, you don't trade him. That is a sucker move. His upside is WAY higher than the average 2nd round pick and he's NHL ready NOW. Terrible sell low move. Saying a guy has low trade value in relation to his upside is the reasoning for NOT trading him. Get him to the NHL give him some games and see what happens. Odds are MUCH better that he hits than that a 2nd rounder does. And if you don't like what he brings, the mere fact that he's in NA playing raises his trade value. The worst thing we could possibly do is sell low or use him as a throw in.
his upside and him being nhl ready are meaningless if he's not going to ever play for the rangers. To recoup actual value on VK he needs to play in a north american league (ahl/nhl). Reportedly he asked out. He refused his hartford assignment (and for the life of me i cannot get why drury let him play for traktor this year, burning a year on his ELC). VK has played exactly 20 games for the rangers. He's now 22 years old. He's lost a lot of luster that he had years ago.
"he's not going to ever play for the rangers" is a false premise. He's publicly said he wants to play here (that it was his "dream" even), and has committed to coming over during the summer to get ready. And even if he just comes to prepare and THEN gets traded he will have far more value. I don't think there's any way Drury will sell that low on him, and rightfully not.
All of that is PR speak. His actions Speak a lot louder than his words. He’s coming over here this summer? Funny enough he’s still not here yet and his season is over.
The word "summer" mean anything to you?
Yes. We got "lucky"/drafted well and he will hopefully play in the NHL. But you are missing the point here. Anderson, with far LESS upside and similar baggage got us "Cuylle" .... so logically we should get more for the player with the far higher upside, no? And do you expect most 2nd rounders to end up as well as Cuylle? Somewhere around 70% of 2nd round picks never become NHL regulars.
I think this is the year to have as many picks as possible as if we trust our scouting, there could be alot of guys who go late rounds who make the NHL.
Yeah. I think we only disagree on what the best course is with Kravtsov. I can live with that difference if you can buddy!
Getting a 2nd rounder for a 7th overall pick is not a reason to be patting ourselves on the back. Regardless of who the pick was.
But getting a 2nd rounder for a failed player is great. He didn't work out, move on.
Sunk cost. Better get a 60th overall than continue investing resources on a failed 7th overall.
It’s making the best of a bad situation. But it’s still a bad situation.
