Easy yes...then you flip Nylander for more assets...getting out of a long-term Hertl contract, acquiring 2 first round picks, a good prospect in Knies, and more picks/prospects for Nylander? That would be a steal lol...Toronto obviously won't do it.
Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II
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Le Rosbeef
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Rumours on social media that Boston may move on from Trent Frederic to enable them to go re-sign Bertuzzi.
I've watch a LOT of Bruins games this year - this is something that I really hope Mike Grier is looking at closely. He's 25 and has tools that we don't have in abundance on our roster. He plays a heavy but smart game and his offense is showing big improvement. Third line for the Bruins but surely has more potential for growth.
He's RFA, and I'll be honest, I have no idea what his next contract is like - but this guy could easily play centre, or shift to the left wing.
I've watch a LOT of Bruins games this year - this is something that I really hope Mike Grier is looking at closely. He's 25 and has tools that we don't have in abundance on our roster. He plays a heavy but smart game and his offense is showing big improvement. Third line for the Bruins but surely has more potential for growth.
He's RFA, and I'll be honest, I have no idea what his next contract is like - but this guy could easily play centre, or shift to the left wing.
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Yes please. I think realistically he’s probably about the same level as Sturm right now but having two Sturms isn’t the worst especially when one has the potential to be a bit more.
Also fun fact, Frederic was taken with the pick we traded for Jones so full circle.
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I think with the cap barely going up this year, there are a lot of opportunities to bring in some interesting players that other teams need to shed — something Grier and his team has been quite good at so far.
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NJ potentially taking Timo to team elected arbitration to try and cut his QO to 8.5M just emphatically underscores that Grier made the correct decision trading him at the deadline. Can you imagine what the return would be now when the team acquiring him is inheriting a complete headache of a negotiation?
Best case scenario for the Devils seems to be signing him for 6-8 years at 9-9.5M. I love Timo but I don't see how you gain a competitive advantage paying him the same amount other teams are paying vastly superior wingers like Tkachuk, Stone, Kucherov and Kaprizov.
Best case scenario for the Devils seems to be signing him for 6-8 years at 9-9.5M. I love Timo but I don't see how you gain a competitive advantage paying him the same amount other teams are paying vastly superior wingers like Tkachuk, Stone, Kucherov and Kaprizov.
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Hypothetically, assuming that we're on course for another long season and we fully accept that... how bad would this roster actually be to start next year?
It has minimal tweaks:
* Re-signed Zetterlund to a 2 year, 1.5m AAV
* Re-signed Gregor and Peterson, each to 2 year, 1.1m AAV
* Traded for Vladar (a 3rd in 2025, and a 5th in 2023 - maybe a little generous, but 2 years to see if he has the upside some people suggest he does).
It also retains Labanc and Karlsson on the assumption that nobody wants to/can accommodate their contracts this summer, as much as I would really like to see us trade them both (for entirely different reasons.)
In theory, Barabanov and Lorentz are both good rentals at the deadline and maybe even Kakhonen, which could return some solid assets.
Gives us a long look at Gushchin to open the season (and could end up mitigating some of the loss of Barabanov post deadline, while Peterson could take Lorentz' spot as Kunin works back in). It also potentially opens a shed of cap space at year end if it hasn't shown much, as expected - Lindblom, Kunin, Labanc, Simek etc. - you'd have 14 players signed with more than $30m in cap space, alongside another potentially high draft pick.
We let Eklund take his lumps in his first full NHL season and go easy on the kid if it doesn't go to plan.
Of course, you could also explore trading EK at the deadline again, hopefully in the midst of another quality offensive year.
I'd personally be happy to sit tight with a roster like this, but then a season ticket for me is a bit of a commute from the UK.
Thoughts?
It has minimal tweaks:
* Re-signed Zetterlund to a 2 year, 1.5m AAV
* Re-signed Gregor and Peterson, each to 2 year, 1.1m AAV
* Traded for Vladar (a 3rd in 2025, and a 5th in 2023 - maybe a little generous, but 2 years to see if he has the upside some people suggest he does).
It also retains Labanc and Karlsson on the assumption that nobody wants to/can accommodate their contracts this summer, as much as I would really like to see us trade them both (for entirely different reasons.)
In theory, Barabanov and Lorentz are both good rentals at the deadline and maybe even Kakhonen, which could return some solid assets.
Gives us a long look at Gushchin to open the season (and could end up mitigating some of the loss of Barabanov post deadline, while Peterson could take Lorentz' spot as Kunin works back in). It also potentially opens a shed of cap space at year end if it hasn't shown much, as expected - Lindblom, Kunin, Labanc, Simek etc. - you'd have 14 players signed with more than $30m in cap space, alongside another potentially high draft pick.
We let Eklund take his lumps in his first full NHL season and go easy on the kid if it doesn't go to plan.
Of course, you could also explore trading EK at the deadline again, hopefully in the midst of another quality offensive year.
I'd personally be happy to sit tight with a roster like this, but then a season ticket for me is a bit of a commute from the UK.
Thoughts?
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If youre the Devils and you give him that deal, you just gotta hope that Timo is the Daniel to Hughes' Henrik. Otherwise that's tough sailing
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Am I missing something? Why is there rumour talk about Hart to Sharks? That's a bonafide mistake to go for that caliber of a goalie right now. Except if they are giving for free. Take care of this forward and defence core first and the rest will figure itself out.
Vegas is proving that as we speak. What I mean with that is that this Vegas core has made a lot of goalies look almost Vezina winners, Sharks need that kind of a approach or plan to building a future team. Easier said than done.
Vegas is proving that as we speak. What I mean with that is that this Vegas core has made a lot of goalies look almost Vezina winners, Sharks need that kind of a approach or plan to building a future team. Easier said than done.
Jeff Marek said, “You know which team I really wonder about here with Carter Hart? The San Jose Sharks. That’s a team that doesn’t want to take a step back.”
And people ran with it. That is all that happened. I think he is thinking about how the Sharks have taken recycled goalies the last few season and tried to turn them into more, ignoring that that was Doug Wilson not Grier, and that regardless of what they said last season, even considering trading Karlsson is clearly "taking a step back".
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Not even sure DW went the recycled route. Hill is proving out to be what DW and Co. thought that he was going to be (and what I was on record saying he would be and chastised by some here about as he got dealt to Vegas) whenever they traded a 2nd round pick for him pre-expansion draft. Reimer is just doing Reimer things where he has alternated good and bad seasons almost every year of his career (this one behind a new coach with a more wide open system compared to Boughner who was only trying to prevent goals against and didn't care about scoring on the other end - led to inflated Reimer and Kahkonen save %).
That said, there's a wide chasm between trading a 2nd for Hill when you have Burns, Meier, Karlsson, Hertl, etc. and trading a 1st+ for Hart when you only have Hertl and Couture to construct the roster around and have set your path to rebuilding (regardless of how fast that is attempted). Should be another year of a stopgap goalie to pair with Kahkonen and then a totally fresh start in net for 2024-25 as the team begins their quest to start crawling out of the basement and into the midfield.
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Maybe there's a team in flyers division that wants Hart and Grier is working on a trade
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I had a very realistic dream that we traded Karlsson for the top 8 pick and a high end defensive prospect that my brain 100% made up (it was something vaguely Swedish sounding). So… let’s see how good my prophetic skills are.
hotcabbagesoup
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Right, just like when you predicted we would get first overall. Fool me once, you can't fool me again
ps i also predicted we would get first overall
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Jargon
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Right, just like you predicted we would get first overall. Fool me once, you can't fool me again
ps i also predicted we would get first overall
I was hoping no one would remember that and call me out........
Maybe I'm more of like a best out of 3 oracle?
hotcabbagesoup
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i mean, 1/3....you'd make a great baseball player
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If we trade EK for a made up prospect, I wont be happy
Jargon
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okay but apparently he had a lot of potential
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