Vancouver is absolutely f***ed. They aren't close to competing and they have no future once Quinn and Pettersen leaves.
Probably even higher given the cap has barely moved at all since then. In reality, there is no comp or market rate for this deal because nobody in the history of the league has ever retained at that level for that term. If ~$200k of real dollars in TDL retention is worth a 4th or 5th round pick, $5.75M of real dollars for 4 years is going to be worth an absolute fortune in draft assets required to come back.
Vancouver just traded for Hronek to be their right shot offensive D-Man at the TDL. They also have Hughes to go with him and OEL making a fortune. Don't see much of a fit there salary cap wise having almost $35M sunk into your defensive group (even subbing out Myers for Karlsson at $9.5M).
I don't think you can assume this scales anywhere close to linearly.
Then it’s not worth it to trade him. He makes the other players around him better so we get increased returns from them.
Again, it's really just this. I don't even think it's possible for them to lose an EK trade in any way, even after this season. 11.5m (or probably 8-9m in cap) > Karlsson and it DOES NOT MATTER what they do with that cap, because it's a win that it's not being used on a purely offensive defenseman on a hilariously bad team. And as long as Grier using it to sign more Benning contracts.
Yeah you’re just wrong. Karlsson makes the individual players better meaning that they get better returns. There is no possible way they end up with 8-9M in cap space from trading EK. Also there is no possible way that cap space is better than Karlsson if you aren’t using it.
Burns asked out. And yeah look at the haul Timo got. That was a f*** ton of value. Or look at Middleton, Megna, Bonino, Nieto, etc who were all not very good and not going to return a ton and Karlsson bumped up their play so they returned something. Also yes I’m still upset about the Megna trade but that’s more because I wanted to keep him.Sure made Burns and Meier look real good. Look at the hauls they got!
We're going to look back in 10 years and say "That 5th rounder and Krappo Kahkonen that
I'm not scaling it linearly. Linear scaling of this would make the price insanely high. I'm extrapolating from current prices and the closest comp of retention/cap penalty cost per season to come up with $5.75M of Karlsson retention in the flat cap environment to a cap strapped team is worth a 1st round pick per year. That said, it doesn't actually matters since there is a 0% chance of Karlsson getting traded at 50% retention due to cost of that retention and the unwillingness of an owner to drop $20M+ for a guy to not play for his team in the NHL.
