Anomie2029
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No, you’re the one ignoring context. The stat takes into consideration the quality of shots against. It’s goals saved above expected, not goals saved above average.
Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II
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Gecklund
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And how do you quantify the fact that literally no one on this d group except EK should be playing more than 12 minutes a night?
Anomie2029
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Well with a better defensive lineup, and team in front (because we know team defence is a thing), it’s likely the Sharks would have even less expected goals against.
Better question would for you, how do you quantify how much is Reimer’s fault and how much is the teams? Because sharks fans kept making excuses for Jones too.
PacificOceanPotion
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Anyone else think this Martin Kaut might end up being a player for us? Scored a nice goal tonight. Showed real good speed and a good shot. Dude is still young enough to make the big club and live up to that 1st rd selection. Or is it just one game and I’m getting too excited again?
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PacificOceanPotion
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Like, I know it’s one game and plenty of minds here will say to temper expectations and I get that, I do. If he keeps scoring and playing well with the Cuda I think it changes the complexion of that trade with the Avs. I’m hoping he turns into a nice piece to the rebuild.
OrrNumber4
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Eyssimont has put up some good numbers and solid underlying numbers, but I'm not buying it. He's the Matt Benning of the forward group.
Anomie2029
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Eyssimont is a solid 4th liner with a 3rd liner potential. I like his energy, he shows some good awareness with the puck, and he has a decent shot.
But his defensive awareness isn’t there (as can be seen by his OT and his puck handling isn’t suited for top lines. He may have good numbers - but he has played a number of games with Hertl and Meier.
There is definitely potential there, and if he can develop chemistry on the line with Eklund that’ll be great. However, there are certain aspects to his games which will be punished more in the NHL than the AHL.
I really liked his composure to not force a shot on the breakaway and maintain possession. But he made some soft passes in the dzone that other players have been murdered for in previous games.
Apparently LaBanc is being shopped and if not gone by the end of the draft, he might get bought out.
www.thefourthperiod.com
Sharks looking to move Labanc — The Fourth Period
Add Kevin Labanc to the list of players the San Jose Sharks are willing to trade by the deadline.
www.thefourthperiod.com
3 years to late, but finally.Apparently LaBanc is being shopped and if not gone by the end of the draft, he might get bought out.
Sharks looking to move Labanc — The Fourth Period
Add Kevin Labanc to the list of players the San Jose Sharks are willing to trade by the deadline.
matt trick
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Buyout isn't too bad, with nearly $4M savings next year and a -$2M hit next year, but I feel like we'd be better off just keeping him for a year and selling him for a 3rd-5th at the deadline. He's probably our 4/5th best forward, even if he doesn't play 'winning hockey'. In summary, I guess I don't really care, but I do think Labanc could bring something elsewhere. Can't see him being worth much to someone else with the extra year at nearly $5M, and I'd would leverage one of our two remaining retention spots. Those should be saved for Meier (if not traded this year), Karlsson, and Couture.
It feels to me that Meier and Karlsson won't make it past next year's TDL. Given the way he's played, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that Couture joins them.
Aside from Hertl- and retained trades/buyout penalties- I'm not sure there is a guy who is certain to be on the team in two years.
Bonino, Reimer, and Megna are likely gone at the deadline. Meier and Karlsson by the draft. Barbanov and Labanc aren't Grier type players and have one year (at good/awful value respectively). Lindbom, Simek, and Kunin are mediocre and have one full year left, but could be late round/deep depth pickups next deadline. Kahkonen, based on play thus far, shouldn't be re-signed. Sturm's an ideal 4th C at a fair price, maybe someone squints and hopes he can be a 3C. Otherwise, I could see him playing out his contract, as the team will need a few vets. Ferraro and Benning may stay for the same reason.
I could see Vlasic making it another year- or even two- but three seems pretty unfathomable.
Alaskanice
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On YouTube, there’s a guy who talks Hockey who is now posting on Sportsnet. He goes by “graviteh.”
Anyways, he made a post on Timo trades. His Devils idea is Holtz, Sharangovich, Bahl and 2023 1st and 2nd. This with the Sharks retaining 50%.
This sounds good to me. Any thoughts?
Anyways, he made a post on Timo trades. His Devils idea is Holtz, Sharangovich, Bahl and 2023 1st and 2nd. This with the Sharks retaining 50%.
This sounds good to me. Any thoughts?
PacificOceanPotion
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Holtz the 2023 1st and 2nd alone would be unreal. Id be happy
Alaskanice
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Yeah, if we retain that much money, we should get more pieces.
Gecklund
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That’s not retaining like any money at all. Cap hits are cumulative. If Timo was traded today, that’s technically like 1.25M that is counted against the cap for the rest of the season if we retained 50%. Closer to the deadline it gets even less. That’s why you see teams retaining 50% on rentals without really getting anything else in return and sometimes 3rd teams retain 25% for like a 4th.
Alaskanice
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It really bothers me that Seattle already has a better prospect pool than the Sharks.
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themelkman
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Things really havent panned out well for our picks recently. I still think we will get two NHLers out of 2020, but the years before that have really done nothing and 2021 looks very rough so far.
one2gamble
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Buying him out would be stupidApparently LaBanc is being shopped and if not gone by the end of the draft, he might get bought out.
Sharks looking to move Labanc — The Fourth Period
Add Kevin Labanc to the list of players the San Jose Sharks are willing to trade by the deadline.
Just as worrisome as Sharks drafting is their inability to help prospects grow their game in the AHL. Not to mention their general mishandling of youth. What they did to Eklund last year was brutal and killed a year of his development.
themelkman
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I agree, seems like maybe that part is getting better this year, but who knows.
OrrNumber4
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Gecklund
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It would be really stupid since he has one more year left and they are going no where. Hell scratch him every game if you hate him that much. Don’t add him to our cap for an extra year.
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