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GDT: 2022-23 season game 12 LA Kings vs Dallas Stars @5:00pm 11/1/22

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YAYSAy said:
I'd almost prefer if the score was due to them completely dominating us, we'd have the excuse of being on a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights, but we were totally in this until a bunch of errors, especially Doughty trying to be cute.
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Well the Kings pretty much got dominated tonight.
 
kingsboy11 said:
really lame game all around. Sadly I think most of us saw this coming and I guess to be fair to them they've played a lot of hockey and coming off a back to back it makes sense. But we've just seen it too many from this team where they'll have a stretch where they look unbeatable and then you have games like they have tonight where they just don't have it. Just frustrating all around.

regarding the 7 D decision. I mostly didn't like it for the fact they did it on Clarke's 9th game. Maybe they were testing it out so they could find a way to get Clarke and Walker in the games at the same time. Seems pretty evident that this is not going to be a viable solution going forward
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It's become pretty untenable.

Doughty's been good but was bad tonight.
Anderson has been good but was bad tonight.
Roy has been up and down.

After that? Precipitous dropoff.
-Durzi is getting overplayed, played on the wrong side, and used on the pK despite 6 other dmen in the lineup. The more I see that, the more I think he's the odd man out/traded as they have no clue how to use a guy who is clearly a specialist.
-Clarke...same. They just cannot help but sabotage themselves.
-Edler, bless him for his service, he just cannot get all the way back from that nasty leg injury at this stage. He should be a #7 at this point but we're so short on LHD he's stuck.
-Walker...I think he'll be okay longer-term but it's clear he's not all the way back nor will he be in short order NOR should he be the 'solution' at LD

Blake's had time for evaluation, it's time to at least either call up Bjornfot or Moverare until a more significant move can be made.

But mostly, tonight was just a (sadly predictable) bad game. It's like the ice was bad only for the Kings, many many self inflicted wounds, not one King was really 'good' tonight so I'm gonna give them a break for the first time this season due to the schedule and possible illness.

The 11/7 decision was still inexcusable, though.

Must win at Chicago.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
It's become pretty untenable.

Doughty's been good but was bad tonight.
Anderson has been good but was bad tonight.
Roy has been up and down.

After that? Precipitous dropoff.
-Durzi is getting overplayed, played on the wrong side, and used on the pK despite 6 other dmen in the lineup. The more I see that, the more I think he's the odd man out/traded as they have no clue how to use a guy who is clearly a specialist.
-Clarke...same. They just cannot help but sabotage themselves.
-Edler, bless him for his service, he just cannot get all the way back from that nasty leg injury at this stage. He should be a #7 at this point but we're so short on LHD he's stuck.
-Walker...I think he'll be okay longer-term but it's clear he's not all the way back nor will he be in short order NOR should he be the 'solution' at LD

Blake's had time for evaluation, it's time to at least either call up Bjornfot or Moverare until a more significant move can be made.

But mostly, tonight was just a (sadly predictable) bad game. It's like the ice was bad only for the Kings, many many self inflicted wounds, not one King was really 'good' tonight so I'm gonna give them a break for the first time this season due to the schedule and possible illness.

The 11/7 decision was still inexcusable, though.

Must win at Chicago.
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11/7 was inexcusable? Why?.......back to back, 12 games in 20 days or whatever it is.......why is 11/7 inexcusable?
 
We feel you Todd.

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At no point did I think the Kings were going to win this game tonight. Dallas had way more intensity and the Kings looked tired and made too many mistakes. Fiala gave me a glimmer of hope, but that ended pretty quickly. Let's move on to Chicago. I think the concern here is definitely how many mistakes this team has been making defensively. There were so many brutal plays: Doughty, Anderson, Durzi, Kupari, etc..
 
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bmr said:
At no point did I think the Kings were going to win this game tonight. Dallas had way more intensity and the Kings looked tired and made too many mistakes. Fiala gave me a glimmer of hope, but that ended pretty quickly. Let's move on to Chicago. I think the concern here is definitely how many mistakes this team has been making defensively. There were so many brutal plays: Doughty, Anderson, Durzi, Kupari, etc..
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This was the game 12/20 caught up with them. If Dallas doesn't have 4 days between games, the outcome is probably different. Dallas got smoked their last game with Wedgewood giving up 4 goals on 7 shots. Just not our night.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
11/7 was inexcusable? Why?.......back to back, 12 games in 20 days or whatever it is.......why is 11/7 inexcusable?
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Running 11/7 on a back-to-back makes even less sense because having less forwards is really exhausting as the game goes on. That's why there's 4 lines of forwards and only 3 lines of D - because playing forward is way more exhausting than playing D. If you play beer league you'll know that the more forwards you have the better lol
 
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J Smoove said:
Running 11/7 on a back-to-back makes even less sense because having less forwards is really exhausting as the game goes on. That's why there's 4 lines of forwards and only 3 lines of D - because playing forward is way more exhausting than playing D. If you play beer league you'll know that the more forwards you have the better lol
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Ya.. question is, were both JAD and Pepe unable to play.. if so, it makes sense. If not, what is the logic. 1st downside is you have to rotate players into the line missing a guy.. and keep track of TOI so you dont fry someone. The d-pairings are also scrambled - guys playing with partners their not used to. Looks like something you'd try with an intersquad scrimmage.
 
I think the 11/7 can make sense in a back-to-back, considering the defense play more minutes.

Though ultimately, it doesn't matter if the team takes a collective dump.

Trying to mentally throw out the last two games to make it a wash. Johnjm outlined the heavy schedule they've played. On average, they're better than tonight. But I also don't think they're as dominant as they are against the Blues.
 
This loss doesn't bother me much.

My biggest annoyance is the PK. A good PK would have actually given us a chance in this game.

Also, from Tmac's perspective, isn't this a game where you'd want to employ lock down mode / low event hockey?

Stars are coming off rest. They always play with buzz in that building. Meanwhile Kings are in back-to-backs, 3-in-4, and have played an arduous schedule. You know you have no chance to match their energy.
 
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Eh. B2B road loss, at the end of many days playing with little break. It feels worse because they beat the pants off St. Louis the day before, but eh.

I'd like to see them with a few days off to work on some things in practice.
 
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Interesting minutes in this one. Vilardi led all forwards with over 20 minutes of ice time, followed by Kempe, Moore, and Fiala. Fewest minutes went to Lizotte, with 12:46.

Penalty kill was the difference here. Kings went 1/3 on the power play, Stars went 3/4. Not going to win many games if you only kill off 25% of the penalties you take.
 
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I think we’ve seen enough games to safely consider the Kings a bottom five defensive team in the league.

We’re going to score a lot of goals this year. There’s no doubt about that. A lot of players will have sexy stat lines. But it’s going to be tough sledding getting into the postseason. The defense is just too bad, and the goaltending isn’t good enough to make up for it.

Vegas is good because they’re healthy again (I told you so). Calgary and Edmonton are 2-3. So we’re going to need to squeak into a wildcard.

Going to be very tough. Blake doesn’t have the balls or vision to make a tough roster decision on the D, and TMac isn’t a good enough coach to make lemonade out of the lemons. A lot of mediocrity in the decision making chairs.
 
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johnjm22 said:
This loss doesn't bother me much.

My biggest annoyance is the PK. A good PK would have actually given us a chance in this game.

Also, from Tmac's perspective, isn't this a game where you'd want to employ lock down mode / low event hockey?

Stars are coming off rest. They always play with buzz in that building. Meanwhile Kings are in back-to-backs, 3-in-4, and have played an arduous schedule. You know you have no chance to match their energy.
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it's not so much the loss overall that bothers me, it's that mid-game collapse. that's a ghost i thought they had left in the past

PK definitely was a shot in the foot though
 
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