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I feel like I heard about the Silfverberg blood clot. All depends on where in the leg the clot is/was.
I have the same thing, DVT lower leg. If it's below the knee it's not super concerning, but they will have to watch it going forward, make sure nothing new pops up. They probably shut him down because if new, they don't want any trauma to the leg while they start treatment... high dose blood thinners to start and maybe something to treat the vein(s). Can't really be fixed though, only treated with blood thinners for the most part.
If it's above the knee, then different ball game, because that can travel to the heart if it's deep vein.
Hopefully it's low leg and not serious.
His play in the WJC has me geeked for this kid. The composure and play of McT has me thinking we have our next long term Captain and a top line staple for the next 15 years. Trying to not put the cart before the horse, but my hope are sky high
From a week ago:
Jakob Silfverberg om blodproppen i benet: "Ätit blodförtunnande"
Berättar om obehagliga skadan.
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Silfverberg's quotes:
"I've had a bruise on one of my calves for a while and was thinking a puck or some collision must have caused it. Bruises are something you get after almost every game, but at the same time I had no recollection of getting hit in that particular spot on the leg".
"It turned out the Predators team doctor was working at the emergency at the hospital there (in Nashville). Right away he made sure I got to undergo an x-ray using ultrasound, and that's when I was told I had a blood clot in my leg".
The article says Silfverberg has been eating blood thinners all summer up until a couple of weeks ago. He's been skating with Brynäs ever since they took the ice at the start of august. In other words, he should be good to go come training camp.
Hamilton Bulldogs
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he aint got it anymore, man.
Last year Vinni Latteri had as many goals in like 20 less games. The season before that David Backes would've had more goals had he played as much as Silf.
We gotta move on. Gotta get Lundestrom some good linemates.
CrazyDuck4u
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Just as I feared.. hope for the best.From a week ago:
Jakob Silfverberg om blodproppen i benet: "Ätit blodförtunnande"
Berättar om obehagliga skadan.
Silfverberg's quotes:
"I've had a bruise on one of my calves for a while and was thinking a puck or some collision must have caused it. Bruises are something you get after almost every game, but at the same time I had no recollection of getting hit in that particular spot on the leg".
"It turned out the Predators team doctor was working at the emergency at the hospital there (in Nashville). Right away he made sure I got to undergo an x-ray using ultrasound, and that's when I was told I had a blood clot in my leg".
The article says Silfverberg has been eating blood thinners all summer up until a couple of weeks ago. He's been skating with Brynäs ever since they took the ice at the start of august. In other words, he should be good to go come training camp.
Even though Noesen never amounted to much and Ritchie was disappointing, Silf made that trade a clear W for the Ducks especially given how Bobby’s career went after that. I remember Sens fans saying you’re gonna love this kid and they were right. He was a fan-favourite in Ottawa and hadn’t been there for a full season.
I was curious and since the trade Silf has scored more points and played in many more games than Bobby. His ppg over those years is also only 0.08 less than Bobby’s despite playing in a defensive role for most of his time here.
I was curious and since the trade Silf has scored more points and played in many more games than Bobby. His ppg over those years is also only 0.08 less than Bobby’s despite playing in a defensive role for most of his time here.
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sowcufucakky
Read the article in the post above yours. He had significant health issues last year.
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| Silf | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021-22 | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | Plus/Minus | |
| Total | 53 | 5 | 16 | 21 | 0.40 | -3 | |
| Before COVID infection | 9 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 0.89 | 6 | |
| After COVID infection + blood clot | 44 | 4 | 9 | 13 | 0.30 | -9 |
| Lundy | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021-22 | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | Plus/Minus | |
| Total | 80 | 16 | 13 | 29 | 0.36 | -3 | |
| Before Silf COVID | 9 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 0.78 | 5 | |
| From 10/31 to 11/11 (No Silf) | 6 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 0.50 | 2 | |
| From 11/11 to 3/6 (with Silf) | 43 | 10 | 5 | 15 | 0.35 | -11 | |
| From 3/12 to 4/29 (no Silf) | 22 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 0.18 | 1 |
COVID actually affected Silf's play drastically. He had a long dryspell in 29 games, scoring 5 pts and a -5 plus/minus rating. Silf potted 1g + 4a for a scoring rate of 0.17 ppg. The final 15 games he played, Silf scored 8 pts (0.53 ppg) and a -4 plus/minus rating. Silf netted 3g + 5a for a scoring rate of 0.53 ppg. It took a long while for Silf to get back close to his old self again, then the clot was eventually identified.
Lundy went strictly shutdown mode without Silf the second time. Even unhealthy Silf was better offensively than whoever we put with Lundy in those final 22 games.
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I admire the belief in him but I don't think he's going to be much better this year.
hope i'm wrong.
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I’m not saying that he is a guaranteed powerhouse, because I don’t know that he actually is or can stay healthy. I am pointing out that the reason for his diminished stats were his health, not his ability. I‘m going to give him a chance before I write him off, which seems fair.
A healthy Silf would be a huge addition, I think part of the reason things fell off like the PK was because of losing him.
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Genuinely curious are these models based purely off counting stats and adjusting them based on the league the player is playing in? I’ve seen a lot more of them lately, am wondering how accurate they tend to be.
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That’s mostly right. It also accounts for the exact age of the player. So a 100 point OHL season, for example, is weighted more favorably for someone who is 19 and 2 months, versus someone who did it at 19 and 11 months.
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We need Drysdale to gain another 7 inches in height and 50 pounds of muscle.
Drysdale Physics 2023 lets go
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
This is a ridiculous post. Latteri and Silfverberg are two different types of players.
Silf is an excellent two-way forward. So he has two bad seasons, one due to health, other due to COVID. It's not due to laziness or a lack of effort.
I'm sure 100% healthy Jakob can become a force again. He arguably still has the best shot on the team as a forward. McTavish might get there, but we will see.
I'm really skeptical about the state of internet statistics-based hockey analysis. There's a lot of guys out there making a name for themselves putting things into tweetable bar graphs, but I haven't seen much evidence that this is analog to sabermetrics in baseball.
Hockey Duckie
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Sabermetrics was made for baseball, which is a static sport. This means an event can be broken down into specific outcomes because it is an individual game despite being called a team sport. For example, an outfielder attempt to field a flyball is an individual event.
Outside of baseball team sports, every other team sports are fluid and relies on more than one individual in any said event except for penalty kicks, shootouts, breakaways, and field goal attempts. That means there are too many variables when compared to baseball.
Plus/Minus ratings shows a person's production within a team atmosphere. With more recording, we can know a person's impact to the team. We can see this in the evolved possession stats such as Corsi or Fenwick, but possession stats compares shots for versus shots against whereas +/- focuses on actual goals for and goals against production.
A lot of the hockey models have a heavy weight with scoring points. D Lindholm is often left out of conversations unless you use Corsi/Fenwick to show how good Lindholm is on the ice despite not scoring a lot. Lindholm doesn't get Norris talk b/c he doesn't score often, well, when he's healthy. Drysdale gets good marks because he can score. Drysdale scored more points than Lindholm last year, but if you factor in that plus/minus rating, then there's a doubletake at that model projection.
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If you express any skepticism you sound like an old school Luddite, but I was all aboard in baseball in the 90s and 00s when statistics changed our understanding of the sport.
I'm just not remotely convinced hockey is in the same place. Just because some guy tweets a bar graph that says that Sonny Milano is elite defensively doesn't mean I gotta buy it
I'm just not remotely convinced hockey is in the same place. Just because some guy tweets a bar graph that says that Sonny Milano is elite defensively doesn't mean I gotta buy it
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
I'm in the same boat with you. Analytics and baseball are a match together - hockey and analytics? not so much. There's just so much subjectivity and values that can change in an instant. It glorifies subpar players
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