Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[All Mighty]

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He's in the final year of being paid out his buyout money as well. He's made bank and has a ring, but he's also only 33 (turns 34 mid season). Seems more likely he'll still be fighting for another contract, but who knows?

Shatty has been very durable with Anaheim. Two seasons ago, he played 55 out of 56 games. Last year, he played all 82 games. He's the best 3rd pairing D who can play on the PP as well as chip in on the PK if need be. Of course, Shatty still needs to show he's durable this season as well so other teams will be interested in offering him a contract.

I think most of us believe he's a TDL capital b/c it's the last year of his contract, his age doesn't fit the Ducks timeline, and we have a couple of RD's that could be ready for the NHL around the TDL mark in Andersson or Helleson.

 

[Paul4587]

You're never going to convince me that the guy who played the third most minutes on the team (2nd most after Lindholm left) and played a lot of PK was "incredibly sheltered". I maintain that he was used more than he should have been, but that was because the alternatives were even worse. We do agree that he should not be a top 4 guy, there are several conversations going on here.

I never claimed Shattenkirk was good, just that Drysdale was worse (last season, hopefully not the next). And as such Drysdale should start on the third pairing in order not to overwhelmed him. With our current roster that means Shattenkirk would start in the top 4, which is obviously not ideal.

He played 21 mins but that was purely because he played on both special teams. In ES TOI he was 5th on the team and as I said in my prior post when you look at who he was matched up against he was really, really sheltered.

Maybe, but it's also a contract year for Shatt, should be highly motivated on a nightly basis.

That’s true but I tend to think this is probably his last year. It felt like the 3 year deal he signed was a retirement contract. I could be completely off there though.

 

[Rybread86]

So where would you think he sits in the lineup on a team with a roughly league average D core?

I think he wouldn’t even dress on half the teams around the league. He’s absolutely terrible in his own end and his production mostly stemmed from a really hot streak to start the season.

He plays on every team in the league, if they actually have a need for what he provides. "He wouldnt even dress for half the teams" is semantics. Yeah, teams like the Avs dont need him because they have enough of what he provides. But very few Dmen actually qualify to play on every single team. Makar, as an extreme example, every single team in the league would play him, even teams with a legit #1 would do that if they could. But, not every team needs a Shatty or a Manson or a Martinez.

I would say that for at least 10 teams, hes a 2nd pairing guy. 10 teams, hes bottom pairing and 10 teams dont need what he provides. That doesnt mean hes not good enough, it means they are set.

Hes durable, he blocks more shots than any other Dman and he eats minutes. Bad players who cant play on 50% of teams dont do that stuff.

And while bsu and you say hes terrible is his own end, I still just cant wrap my head around a coaching taff that would put someone that horrible on D, on the PK as much as he was. Per 60 he played more than Lindholm, granted that could be slightly skewed due to the last 20 games of the season, but still hes in that top group of players on the PK. Id be willing to wager, Klingberg wont be getting much time on the PK. Drysdale NEVER played on the PK.

I understand people not loving the player or thinking hes not worth keeping around anymore (AGREED!) but to say he cant play in this league? Or that he only plays for shit teams? Thats beyond a stretch.

He will be traded at the deadline and then get another like 2 year contract somewhere this offseason.

 

[Paul4587]

He plays on every team in the league, if they actually have a need for what he provides. "He wouldnt even dress for half the teams" is semantics. Yeah, teams like the Avs dont need him because they have enough of what he provides. But very few Dmen actually qualify to play on every single team. Makar, as an extreme example, every single team in the league would play him, even teams with a legit #1 would do that if they could. But, not every team needs a Shatty or a Manson or a Martinez.

I would say that for at least 10 teams, hes a 2nd pairing guy. 10 teams, hes bottom pairing and 10 teams dont need what he provides. That doesnt mean hes not good enough, it means they are set.

Hes durable, he blocks more shots than any other Dman and he eats minutes. Bad players who cant play on 50% of teams dont do that stuff.

And while bsu and you say hes terrible is his own end, I still just cant wrap my head around a coaching taff that would put someone that horrible on D, on the PK as much as he was. Per 60 he played more than Lindholm, granted that could be slightly skewed due to the last 20 games of the season, but still hes in that top group of players on the PK. Id be willing to wager, Klingberg wont be getting much time on the PK. Drysdale NEVER played on the PK.

I understand people not loving the player or thinking hes not worth keeping around anymore (AGREED!) but to say he cant play in this league? Or that he only plays for shit teams? Thats beyond a stretch.

He will be traded at the deadline and then get another like 2 year contract somewhere this offseason.

I addressed a lot of your points in my last post which was responding to a different post but I just want to point out that being used on the PK doesn’t make someone good defensively at ES. On the PK you can rely on putting your body in front of shots and getting the puck down to he ice as your line of defense. At 5 on 5 if you do that you’re going to get caved in with icing calls leading to numerous defensive zone draws. I conceded that last year at least Shattenkirk was a good PKer for us.

But plenty of dmen are good PKers and terrible 5 on 5 defensively. Same goes with forwards.

 

[All Mighty]

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[bsu]

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I would have been playing in that if I wasn't in Vegas lol I coach with Tyler Maxwell

 

[JabbaJabba]

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Someone misspelled society.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

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I still think it's weird that they gave De Leo #7.

 

[Leonardo87]

Mactruck is dominating in his league and on the biggest stage in his age group. He did not really look out of place in his 9 game NHL stint. Safe to say he makes the team full time. Would roll these lines…

Henrique - Zegras - Vatrano
McTavish - Strome - Terry
Comtois - Lundy - Silf

My reasoning, Strome will have his best success paired with a guy who can snipe and open up space for him. That screams McTavish oh and yeah Terry is pretty damn good also, lol.

Eventually, can ease McTavish into the Center role.

 

[All Mighty]

Mactruck is dominating in his league and on the biggest stage in his age group. He did not really look out of place in his 9 game NHL stint. Safe to say he makes the team full time. Would roll these lines…

Henrique - Zegras - Vatrano
McTavish - Strome - Terry
Comtois - Lundy - Silf

My reasoning, Strome will have his best success paired with a guy who can snipe and open up space for him. That screams McTavish oh and yeah Terry is pretty damn good also, lol.

Eventually, can ease McTavish into the Center role.

I just don't see that 3rd line accomplishing anything.

 

[Leonardo87]

I just don't see that 3rd line accomplishing anything.

A lot will depend how Comtois bounces back and if Silf is healthy but could be a good 3rd line.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Mactruck is dominating in his league and on the biggest stage in his age group. He did not really look out of place in his 9 game NHL stint. Safe to say he makes the team full time. Would roll these lines…

Henrique - Zegras - Vatrano
McTavish - Strome - Terry
Comtois - Lundy - Silf

My reasoning, Strome will have his best success paired with a guy who can snipe and open up space for him. That screams McTavish oh and yeah Terry is pretty damn good also, lol.

Eventually, can ease McTavish into the Center role.

It'll be interesting to see who Terry has chemistry with outside of Rico. We got two more seasons of Rico, or less if he's a TDL bait in 2023-24.

That third line is dependent on the wingers. Low expecations, but potentially high output.

Silf being healthy is huge! He's been plagued with injuries for the past three seasons and that is why he has earned a negative outlook on here. When Silf was healthy, though, he was very productive (I did the splits on him before and after Covid). Before COVID he had 1g + 7a in 9 games.

I have no idea what to expect out of Comtois, tbh. If he can regain that passion and body size from two seasons ago, then it could be a very strong line like Comtois-Lundy-Rakell, which was our defeault #1 line for a while. On that line, Rakell was a facilitator as Comtois kept crashing the net. Silf can play that role facilitator role.

 

[Leonardo87]

It'll be interesting to see who Terry has chemistry with outside of Rico. We got two more seasons of Rico, or less if he's a TDL bait in 2023-24.

That third line is dependent on the wingers. Low expecations, but potentially high output.

Silf being healthy is huge! He's been plagued with injuries for the past three seasons and that is why he has earned a negative outlook on here. When Silf was healthy, though, he was very productive (I did the splits on him before and after Covid). Before COVID he had 1g + 7a in 9 games.

I have no idea what to expect out of Comtois, tbh. If he can regain that passion and body size from two seasons ago, then it could be a very strong line like Comtois-Lundy-Rakell, which was our defeault #1 line for a while. On that line, Rakell was a facilitator as Comtois kept crashing the net. Silf can play that role facilitator role.

That’s how I feel also. 3rd line has a lot of potential but there are low expectations for them and if they end up being the shutdown line, it’s all good. Need one of those.

I think McTavish has a chance to make an immediate impact and end up in the Top 6. Depends how he does at camp and preseason or course. Comtois, has to earn a spot back there, imo. Only time will tell.

 

[91Fedorov]

I really hope Jones surprises next year. I would love to see him take over a middle 6 role.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I really hope Jones surprises next year. I would love to see him take over a middle 6 role.I have a sneaky feeling this Will happen. Maybe this off-season he went to Matt beleskys old skill coach in the offseason

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Have you think Comtois and mctavish battle out for a spot

I can’t see mctavish going back no matter what I mean being around the team and practicing is better than being in junior but then again he needs to play so it’s going to be an interesting dynamic in the early part of next season

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I just don't see that 3rd line accomplishing anything.

I don't think any line with silf is going to do a whole lot scoring wise. Id rather see Carrick on the third, personally.

 

[c4rcy]

McT and Comtois will battle it out for probably the LW2 and LW3 spots to start, but I see them being interchangeable right now. We have enough centers to let McT develop on the wing to start (much like Z did, and is still developing at C).

Jones I feel missed a ton of development in the last few years with his injuries, and realistically I see him topping out at a decent 3rd line player with some physicality - nothing to complain about for a 24th overall pick.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I don't think any line with silf is going to do a whole lot scoring wise. Id rather see Carrick on the third, personally.

Silfverberg was one oF our better offensive players when he was actually healthy at the start of the season, which he hadn’t been for a long time. Assuming that he’s actually healthy, hopefully he and Lundestrom can recreate the chemistry they had at the start of the season.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Silfverberg was one oF our better offensive players when he was actually healthy at the start of the season, which he hadn’t been for a long time. Assuming that he’s actually healthy, hopefully he and Lundestrom can recreate the chemistry they had at the start of the season.

Silverberg.. Got a blood clot in his leg.. They were very tight lipped about it during the season... Wonder why.. Anyways.. Hope hes ok.. No update on him.. As for mctavish.. Hes gonna be a bonafide power forward.. Forsberg good..

 

[bsu]

Silverberg.. Got a blood clot in his leg.. They were very tight lipped about it during the season... Wonder why.. Anyways.. Hope hes ok.. No update on him.. As for mctavish.. Hes gonna be a bonafide power forward.. Forsberg good..

Forsberg is actually not a bad comparsion.

 

[Paul4587]

If he’s Forsberg good then he will go down as the best Duck in franchise history.

Personally I think the Pavelski comparisons are the most apt.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

If he’s Forsberg good then he will go down as the best Duck in franchise history.

Personally I think the Pavelski comparisons are the most apt.

Would assume that's referring to Filip, not Peter. If he's Peter Forsberg good, he's arguably a top 15-20 player ever.

I agree with you on the latter statement though given how he operates from the circles down, particularly in tight.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

How does McTavish compare to Josh Norris ? I haven't followed Norris playstyle.
Both are physical, both have a incredible quick release with their shot, both prefer to shoot and shoot.
Both are great with Faceoffs as centers and are 6'1.
Josh Norris in 2021-22: 35 goals, 20 assists in 66 games. Looks like future McTavish numbers.