Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[McDonald19]

I think Max Jones might fill that role.

Carrick is the default enforcer, but he is undersized for the role. Jones is 6’3 220, but he doesn’t know how to fight.

 

[Rybread86]

I mean, Carrick would have tried but I don’t like that he is the Ducks’ “enforcer”.

With all due respect to Carrick, hes like the baby face enforcer of the league. He's not someone that intimidates you. Sure hes there and he will throw down but its felt forced with him, like he knows thats the way he stays in the league so he does it but reluctantly. Des... that crazy SOB wanted to fight.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Carrick is the default enforcer, but he is undersized for the role. Jones is 6’3 220, but he doesn’t know how to fight.

Sure, but he's had plenty of time to learn. Maybe he'll surprise us.

 

[McDonald19]

I’m thinking Verbeek scoops a fighter off the waiver pile in September.

Zack MacEwen perhaps.

 

[DavidBL]

Where would these proposed enforcers actually play next year? What's the point in having them on the roster if they're not going to play games? Even in our roster who are they replacing?

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Where would these proposed enforcers actually play next year? What's the point in having them on the roster if they're not going to play games? Even in our roster who are they replacing?

That's a good point.

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Jones-Grant-Carrick

Fowler-Klingberg
Vaakanainen-Drysdale
Benoit-Shattenkirk

Injuries aside, that seems pretty set unless McTavish isn't ready and/or Comtois doesn't rebound.

 

[Rybread86]

Where would these proposed enforcers actually play next year? What's the point in having them on the roster if they're not going to play games? Even in our roster who are they replacing?

Thats the same argument everyone makes when trying to 'justify' putting an enforcer in the lineup. Just remember, this isnt the age of Parros (2nd fav Duck all time) where the skill was pretty limited and they only got like 6 minutes a game. They average like 10-12 minutes now because they can grind and get some decent chances.

Grant and Carrick are both very replaceable players. Jones is unknown really, and we hope hes a staple, but he could be in that list too. Benoit or whoever is 3rd pairing alongside Drysdale (you would think), is also a spot where one could plug in.

Simple fact is, we have too many small, high skill guys with very little around them to provide any protection. You have 4th liners and bottom pairing D that grinders/enforcers can fit in. Heck, high skill grinders can be found who can play middle 6 roles too. It doesnt have to be one dimensional "fighters only", but they better be able to lay the body and scrap when needed.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

This Hockey Duckie guy has got to get out once in awhile

ha! All the stats are in excel. It's really not much work to do it after each game. When I do GDTs, I share whatever pattern shows up (if there is one) in excel to give us something different to read each GDT.

This off-season isn't any different. Just cut & paste and subtraction code to get splits.

Not to be rude, but literally every time I see a comment my eyes glaze over and I just keep scrolling without reading.

On the long ones, you aren't the only one I promise you that

Welp, you are being rude. And everyone else liking your comments are just as rude too.

I've evolved my posts to have a Short version (tl;dr) and a Long version (LotR), or I will warn you after a certain point to read at your own peril. That means you're more than welcome to "glaze over and keep scrolling without reading".

The rudeness is y'all aren't recognizing my being a helpful Honda person to say it's quite alright to "glaze over and keep scrolling without reading" and it's not meant for you. Ya'll admitting in these posts that it's not meant for you when I agree that it's not meant for you to begin with is so very Karen.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

That's a good point.

Henrique-Strome-Terry
Comtois-Zegras-Vatrano
Mctavish-Lundestrom-Silfverberg
Jones-Grant-Carrick

Fowler-Klingberg
Vaakanainen-Drysdale
Benoit-Shattenkirk

Injuries aside, that seems pretty set unless McTavish isn't ready and/or Comtois doesn't rebound.

Carrick, Benoit, and Jones will have to be our default enforcers. Maybe Benoit learned to take on Manson's role. Having at least one big body in our top-9 could also act like a buffer. In your lineup, that would be Strome on line 1, Comtois, on line 2, and McTavish on line 3.

We do have some bottom-6 grit in the AHL with Drew, Lopina, and Groulx.

I think we need one more veteran forward to play that 13th forward role instead of wasting the developments of Drew, Lopina, and Groulx by sitting on the bench at the NHL level.

 

[Leonardo87]

The rudeness is y'all aren't recognizing my being a helpful Honda person to say it's quite alright to "glaze over and keep scrolling without reading" and it's not meant for you. Ya'll admitting in these posts that it's not meant for you when I agree that it's not meant for you to begin with is so very Karen.

I read it. didn't have a reply, agreed with some stuff, but didn't have much to add. I will just say that this roster is a big question mark but holds a lot of potential, and really are relying on how the kids progress. I still would like Verbeek to add another Top 4D who can eat mins and kill penalties. Then maybe they can get closer to that bubble. But a lot also depends on which Gibby we get. lol.

 

[Duck Off]

I think Max Jones might fill that role.

honestly, that's probably true. That's depressing af though.

 

[Duck Off]

Where would these proposed enforcers actually play next year? What's the point in having them on the roster if they're not going to play games? Even in our roster who are they replacing?

Well the answer is you ideally roster guys who can fill that role who don't suck at hockey. It's why most of us didn't want Deslauriers traded for a mid round pick. It's also why not getting Manson back was a huge miss. You don't need to ice an enforcer, but you need to ice players (multiple ideally) who can physically hold people accountable.

The options are crazy thin right now. The most ideal solution potentially left (IMO anyway) is to take Lucic back for a small amount of compensation.

 

[DavidBL]

Thats the same argument everyone makes when trying to 'justify' putting an enforcer in the lineup. Just remember, this isnt the age of Parros (2nd fav Duck all time) where the skill was pretty limited and they only got like 6 minutes a game. They average like 10-12 minutes now because they can grind and get some decent chances.

Grant and Carrick are both very replaceable players. Jones is unknown really, and we hope hes a staple, but he could be in that list too. Benoit or whoever is 3rd pairing alongside Drysdale (you would think), is also a spot where one could plug in.

Simple fact is, we have too many small, high skill guys with very little around them to provide any protection. You have 4th liners and bottom pairing D that grinders/enforcers can fit in. Heck, high skill grinders can be found who can play middle 6 roles too. It doesnt have to be one dimensional "fighters only", but they better be able to lay the body and scrap when needed.

If you can find someone who can play those minutes I'm all ears. Not sure I've seen anyone mentioned. You say Grant is replaceable but the guy is good for around 30 pts a year. Carrick? I think he's earned a real NHL look. Jones. He's been out for a year. That's your 4th line so you have to make sure who ever you get adds toughness AND replaces their other contributions IMO. Carrick IMO makes the most sense buts he's also the toughest guy already. So how kich toughness are we actually adding there?

 

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[Duck Off]

I wonder if Florida would pay us to take Gudas.

 

[Static]

I wonder if Florida would pay us to take Gudas.

Doubtful, they need dmen pretty badly

 

[Paul4587]

I wonder if Florida would pay us to take Gudas.

They’re really thin on D. Zero chance they pay anyone to take him, he’s needed there.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Carrick, Benoit, and Jones will have to be our default enforcers. Maybe Benoit learned to take on Manson's role. Having at least one big body in our top-9 could also act like a buffer. In your lineup, that would be Strome on line 1, Comtois, on line 2, and McTavish on line 3.

We do have some bottom-6 grit in the AHL with Drew, Lopina, and Groulx.

I think we need one more veteran forward to play that 13th forward role instead of wasting the developments of Drew, Lopina, and Groulx by sitting on the bench at the NHL level.

Hunter drew eventually will be our guy

 

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[bsu]

Benoit is what we need. Put Drysdale with him and have Benoit work on his skating all off season.

 

[Rybread86]

If you can find someone who can play those minutes I'm all ears. Not sure I've seen anyone mentioned. You say Grant is replaceable but the guy is good for around 30 pts a year. Carrick? I think he's earned a real NHL look. Jones. He's been out for a year. That's your 4th line so you have to make sure who ever you get adds toughness AND replaces their other contributions IMO. Carrick IMO makes the most sense buts he's also the toughest guy already. So how kich toughness are we actually adding there?

Its the guys like Lucic, Ristolainen, M. Foligno, etc that you want to look for. Guys that can eat some minutes, lay some hits and grind. If you can find another Des, awesome.

Carrick has for sure earned a look, but thats all his contract says, its a look, a chance. Again, hes not intimidating, he just doe a job that gets him paid. Respect, but if its Carrick or Des you have to square off against, one guy you fear more than the other.

And Im not trying to crap on Grant, but hes older and on an expiring contract. If they resign him, cool, if not, hes replaceable. Hes a 4th line guy that might get some middle 6 minutes from time to time.

As I said in an earlier post, PV has time on his side but right now were lacking in the physical department and our skill guys are going to have targets on their backs. Teams built like this one is currently, dont win because they cant last.

Benoit is what we need. Put Drysdale with him and have Benoit work on his skating all off season.

He just has to turn that corner into an everyday Dman. Skating is part of it, vision is the other.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

That's a good point.

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Comtois-Zegras-Vatrano
Mctavish-Lundestrom-Silfverberg
Jones-Grant-Carrick

Fowler-Klingberg
Vaakanainen-Drysdale
Benoit-Shattenkirk

Injuries aside, that seems pretty set unless McTavish isn't ready and/or Comtois doesn't rebound.

At least 4 of those forwards shouldn't have guaranteed roster spots, and maybe 5. Comtois, Grant, Jones, Carrick, and McTavish haven't really shown themselves to be regular NHLers at this point. Silf could be at risk, too, depending on how his recovery goes. More than enough uncertainty to bring in an enforcer for spot (or even more than that) duty.

 

[All Mighty]

Whoever came up with a “Wild Wing NutQuacker” deserves a raise.

 

[Leonardo87]

All I want is a “Wild Wing NutQuacker” for Christmas. Will go nice with my Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers nut crackers. Lol.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

At least 4 of those forwards shouldn't have guaranteed roster spots, and maybe 5. Comtois, Grant, Jones, Carrick, and McTavish haven't really shown themselves to be regular NHLers at this point. Silf could be at risk, too, depending on how his recovery goes. More than enough uncertainty to bring in an enforcer for spot (or even more than that) duty.

Fair point. The only one I'd maybe push back on would be Carrick, and mostly because he's the sort of forward this team lacks. Jones might evolve into that type of player, but I agree he shouldn't have a guaranteed spot at this moment because we don't really know what we're getting with him.

That said, they probably all have guaranteed roster spots to a degree (except McTavish). I don't see any of them playing in San Diego.