Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[Kalv]

Would feel better with another Top 4 physical D, but the transition game should be good enough to where they will have the puck more than their opponents.

To quote Casey Jones , the best defense is a good offense. Lol.

We need someone to kill penalties. Other than that, Pens probably won the cup with worse defense than this

 

[Leonardo87]

We need someone to kill penalties. Other than that, Pens probably won the cup with worse defense than this

Yeah PK is going to be run like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off lol. It’s going to be utter chaos. Need a guy who can clear the crease and get physical. Forwards on the PK are going to have to really step up.

 

[pbgoalie]

The Coyotes can run a 300 IQ line of Ritchie-Crouse-Kassian.

Funny when the jersey numbers add up higher than IQ isn’t it

 

[Kalv]

Our D depth:

LD
Fowler
Vaakanainen
Benoit
Mahura

RD
Klingberg
Drysdale
Shattenkirk

It's actually not THAT bad anymore, but it is soft and will run into problems defensively. If we add something like Dillon, it would start to shape really well actually. Not sure if that will happen, but there is still time and a lot of dominoes will fall, teams are sitting on their cap now, but some teams will start to make moves. So far Verbeek is doing really well, imo

 

[duckpuck]

What are the thoughts around here about Keegan Kolesar? He filed for arbitration and LV likely can't afford him.

Is he a potential fit to add some sandpaper? Not a heavyweight, but he drops the gloves and plays a physical game. Maybe we send Grant the other way?

 

[Duck Off]

What are the thoughts around here about Keegan Kolesar? He filed for arbitration and LV likely can't afford him.

Is he a potential fit to add some sandpaper? Not a heavyweight, but he drops the gloves and plays a physical game. Maybe we send Grant the other way?

Would love to add him, Roy, or Hague. All three of those rfas would be great additions here

 

[Ducks DVM]

Why would we trade Grant? That type of pickup typically costs a 4-5th.

 

[bsu]

Grant and Carrick should be mainstays IMO. Both are useful in many different ways.

 

[duckpuck]

Why would we trade Grant? That type of pickup typically costs a 4-5th.

Grant and Carrick should be mainstays IMO. Both are useful in many different ways.

I'm not a huge Grant fan. Grant is streaky and surprisingly soft for a guy with good size. He does produce points if he plays up in the lineup - but he's not going to on this ducks team. The ducks have a lot of 4th liners and I'd rather have a guy who brings truculence and stands up for his teammates in that role.

Kolesar is 10 years younger, has grit, and scores a bit. I'd do that trade.

Grant is a useful player with a cheap contract. He should be traded at some point.

 

[Dirk316]

Gotta start somewhere, might as well be fun.

How is that fun that they will get physically abused the entire game and our franchise goalie will have a constant moshpit in front of him
It's actually disgusting the current defense

 

[Ducks DVM]

I'm not a huge Grant fan. Grant is streaky and surprisingly soft for a guy with good size. He does produce points if he plays up in the lineup - but he's not going to on this ducks team. The ducks have a lot of 4th liners and I'd rather have a guy who brings truculence and stands up for his teammates in that role.

Kolesar is 10 years younger, has grit, and scores a bit. I'd do that trade.

Grant is a useful player with a cheap contract. He should be traded at some point.

This team always gets injured, and Grant can play up the lineup. We are also pretty thin at center. He’s also outscored Kolesar the last few years, plays PK, and is a good role model.

I’d far rather just trade a 4th-5th for that type of player, have both on the roster, then just get a 4th-5th back by trading Grant at the deadline.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Our D depth:

LD
Fowler
Vaakanainen
Benoit
Mahura

RD
Klingberg
Drysdale
Shattenkirk

It's actually not THAT bad anymore, but it is soft and will run into problems defensively. If we add something like Dillon, it would start to shape really well actually. Not sure if that will happen, but there is still time and a lot of dominoes will fall, teams are sitting on their cap now, but some teams will start to make moves. So far Verbeek is doing really well, imo

It's not that bad if we're using the TDL as a starting point.

At TLD

LD Lindholm --> LD Vaaks (massive downgrade)​

RD Manson --> RD Sustr (a downgrade)​

At off-season (july 30th)

RD Sustr --> RD Klingberg​

I'm relieved to have a minutes muncher like Klingberg so he buys up 3/4 or a full year for our youths. That's all I care about going into next year. He'll be top line RD, which pushes Drysdale down and that's a great thing! Klingberg did generate 20 points on the PP, which makes our PP1 even better. This is great because Fowler doesn't have to carry the offense on PK.

Now, the cringeworth part about Klingberg. He scored 27 points on ES, but had a -28 plus/minus rating. That means when Klingberg was on the ice at ES, he helped allow 55 goals against. Last year, Drysdale scored 20 points on ES and had -26. Klingberg isn't known for playing on the PK, so he doesn't help fix that problem.

I know many people make fun of Shatty, but Shatty's our best defensive RD. I hope Benoit improves enough to be the stalwart on the PK unit, especially with endurance.

 

[Kalv]

It's not that bad if we're using the TDL as a starting point.

At TLD

LD Lindholm --> LD Vaaks (massive downgrade)​

RD Manson --> RD Sustr (a downgrade)​

At off-season (july 30th)

RD Sustr --> RD Klingberg​

I'm relieved to have a minutes muncher like Klingberg so he buys up 3/4 or a full year for our youths. That's all I care about going into next year. He'll be top line RD, which pushes Drysdale down and that's a great thing! Klingberg did generate 20 points on the PP, which makes our PP1 even better. This is great because Fowler doesn't have to carry the offense on PK.

Now, the cringeworth part about Klingberg. He scored 27 points on ES, but had a -28 plus/minus rating. That means when Klingberg was on the ice at ES, he helped allow 55 goals against. Last year, Drysdale scored 20 points on ES and had -26. Klingberg isn't known for playing on the PK, so he doesn't help fix that problem.

I know many people make fun of Shatty, but Shatty's our best defensive RD. I hope Benoit improves enough to be the stalwart on the PK unit, especially with endurance.

Klingberg was good/decent at +/- up until Hitchcock was leading that team. After the coaching change, he has been the worst Stars player in +/- for 3 years in a row. We have to hope that Eakins can find that somewhat reliable player in him. I'm sure Klingberg will be motivated as well, but what will be the outcome, we have to wait and see

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I feel with the offensive additions, they can actually outscore their D issues. When you had no offense or defense, you got post TDL Ducks hockey. At least with the offense, they can keep the puck in the opponents zone and not be one and done, that will help on the other end. I just worry about the PK like you said, and getting pinned in their own zone. Gibson will be challenged but he should hopefully get his goal support.

I dunno. We found dynamics that worked last year, but we don't know how the new guys will fit in. Strome, Vatrano, and Klingberg all came from playoff teams, which means better surrounding talent. I think Strome and Vatrano's two-way play could help reduce the scoring against us.

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Ducks
2021-22
Game Set	GP	W	L	OTL	Pts	.	GF	GA	GD		GF/GP	GA/GP	GD/GP
Total	82	31	37	14	76		232	271	-39		2.83	3.30	-0.48​
Gm 1 - 33	33	17	9	7	41		104	91	13		3.15	2.76	0.39​
Gm 34 - 62	29	10	16	3	23		76	106	-30		2.62	3.66	-1.03​
Gm 63 - 82	20	4	12	4	12		52	74	-22		2.60	3.70	-1.10​

From here, it looks like we had no offense and no defense after the TDL. Now, let's do an ES goal scoring & ES goal scoring against breakdown.

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Ducks ES Split
2021-22
Game Set	GP	GF	GA	GD	.	PPG	PK GA	.	ESG	ESG/GP	ESGA	ESGA/GP
Total	82	232	271	-39		48	43		184​	2.24​	228​	2.78​
Gm 1 - 33	33	104	91	13		23	12		81​	2.45​	79​	2.39​
Gm 34 - 62	29	76	106	-30		19	17		57​	1.97​	89​	3.07​
Gm 63 - 82	20	52	74	-22		6	14		46​	2.30​	60​	3.00​

Here's the scary part, we were a better ES scoring team after the TDL. The problem after the TDL was our special teams took a tremendous hit. It's odd because losing Manson, Lindholm, and Des, one would believe that only our PK unit would be affected. Instead, our PP unit got wrecked as well.

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Ducks	Special Teams
2021-22
Game Set	Games	PPG	PPO	Eff		PK GA	TSH	PK Eff
1 to 33	33	23	90	25.6%		12	85	85.9%
34 to 62	29	19	85	22.4%		17	89	80.9%
63 to 82	20	6	44	13.6%		14	50	72.0%

The additions of Klingberg and McTavish on the PP unit will be a huge welcome!

Our big problem is how terrible we will be on defense with Klingberg having a -27 plus/minus rating along with Drysdale's -26 plus/minus rating at ES.

It'll be fun being in shootouts next year!

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Why would we trade Grant? That type of pickup typically costs a 4-5th.

Grant is basically to us what David Perron was to St. Louis. Come back in 2032 when Grant is back for his 7th tour of duty on his 5th successive one-year deal.

 

[Paul4587]

Grant is a useful PKer and can take face offs but I don’t think he adds anything of value at ES that makes him worth trying to keep. He’s the definition of a replacement level player (or possibly even worse than that).

 

[KyleJRM]

I think when you account for improvement from young players, this team is better on paper than the one that started last year.

My main concern for now is that it's paper-thin, especially on defense.

 

[JabbaJabba]

Do you guys see Regenda getting a shot in Anaheim? I think he brings much needed size and strenght to the lineup and I can see him working well in a bottom 6 role.

 

[Kalv]

I think when you account for improvement from young players, this team is better on paper than the one that started last year.

My main concern for now is that it's paper-thin, especially on defense.

Our forward group should be better (provided Terry doesn't drop). But the defense was better to start last year in defensive ability. However, Manson and I think also a bit Lindholm missed games, etc.
If we can stay healthy and find another reliable piece defensively, I think we should be at least as good as last year.

We are soft as hell, tho. We need someone who can throw punches. Carrick is awesome, but we need some others, too

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Do you guys see Regenda getting a shot in Anaheim? I think he brings much needed size and strenght to the lineup and I can see him working well in a bottom 6 role.

He might get some games, but I would imagine he spends the majority of the season in San Diego.

 

[Rybread86]

How is that fun that they will get physically abused the entire game and our franchise goalie will have a constant moshpit in front of him
It's actually disgusting the current defense

Sometimes high energy, high skill is chaotic and fun. I agree with you on the physical aspect by the way. Its why I wanted Des back and why I thought we really needed to get our hands on a guy like Gudbranson.

Jones, Carrick, Grant... Comtois, Benoit... Drew. Those guys are going to have to step up with what we currently have.

I have to imagine that from PV's previous comments, this aspect of the game isnt lost on him and he knows he has to get tougher.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Do you guys see Regenda getting a shot in Anaheim? I think he brings much needed size and strenght to the lineup and I can see him working well in a bottom 6 role.

At the start of the season, it feels highly unlikely. We have 12 set forwards right now, but still need an extra forward or two to sit the bench. I don't want to see Regenda sitting on the bench at the NHL level when he can start adapting to the smaller ice in the AHL. IMO, Regenda looks like he can play that middle-6 role and I would prefer to develop him that way. Plus, he's waiver exempt.

Forwards (12)

Vatrano-Zegras-Strome​

Rico-McTavish-Terry​

Comtois-Lundy-Silf​

Grant-Carrick-Jones​

If Comtois comes back to camp out of shape, then Regenda might have a greater chance to crack the NHL lineup.

 

[bsu]

At the start of the season, it feels highly unlikely. We have 12 set forwards right now, but still need an extra forward or two to sit the bench. I don't want to see Regenda sitting on the bench at the NHL level when he can start adapting to the smaller ice in the AHL. IMO, Regenda looks like he can play that middle-6 role and I would prefer to develop him that way. Plus, he's waiver exempt.

Forwards (12)

Vatrano-Zegras-Strome​

Rico-McTavish-Terry​

Comtois-Lundy-Silf​

Grant-Carrick-Jones​

If Comtois comes back to camp out of shape, then Regenda might have a greater chance to crack the NHL lineup.

That won't be our lineup. I'd bet money some on it. Strome knows he's going to be #1C he even said in his interview he hopes he can "sneak in" some shifts with Zegras. Signing Strome to 5 years to void the leadership/lineup spot vacated by Getzlaf then playing McTavish over him at center when he hasn't even proved he's NHL ready would be something. Grant would also be the center of the 4th line not Carrick IMO.

 

[bsu]

That being said what's everyone's prediction in terms of our lineup with the players we currently have?

 

[Rybread86]

That being said what's everyone's prediction in terms of our lineup with the players we currently have?

Henrique - Zegras - Terry
Comtois - Strome - Vatrano
Jones - McT - Silverberg
Grant - Lundy - Carrick

Fowler - Klingberg
Vaaks - Shatty
Benoit - Drysdale

I can see Lundy being 3rd line center with McT on the wing to start. I kind of see a 3 role transition happening this season for McT. Starts 3rd line wing, promotes to 3rd line center, promotes to top 6 center.

I think they start Strome off with Vatrano because of their history, but I could see Eakins wanting to put Terry with Strome.