2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[JojoTheWhale]

He has no choice unless he wants to resign tomorrow. He either gets this done or he's done.

Seriously. Imagine the reporting on this. They didn't want to give up a draft pick for a guaranteed Gaudreau but also WE'RE BACK AND READY TO COMPETE. PLEASE BUY SANTA SACKS.

 

[GKJ]

Vegas are another team that will probably have to use LTIR Day 1. That's why they got Weber.

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They traded a 20 goal scorer to do it.

 

[tictactoe]

First we resigned Seeler, after that signed Deangelo, later waived Lindblom and now we will look for money to sign Johnny. lol Sequence of events totally makes sense.

I will not mention Fedotov because I doubt he will be available.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

They traded a 20 goal scorer to do it.

I agree with you. I don't think most people care and I don't think JVR has much goodwill with their hardcores.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I'm so confused by his post lol

Those Fletch-colored glasses really block out the incompetence

 

[GKJ]

Frankly, if Fletcher’s job is at stake and he’s not doing this, then he should be fired immediately, unless they think Gaudreau always had the Devils at the top. Of course he should’ve been fired already, but I’m looking at this through the enablers’ position.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Seriously. Imagine the reporting on this. They didn't want to give up a draft pick for a guaranteed Gaudreau but also WE'RE BACK AND READY TO COMPETE. PLEASE BUY SANTA SACKS.

They did want to yield half a draft for TDA and a big chunk of cap space though lol.

They're close to missing out on nearly two full drafts worth of picks in Fletcher's tenure without competing for even a moment

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

if gaudreau signs somewhere else, could there be a silver lining?
could the organization learn a lesson?

You don't recklessly spend high salary cap figures on average or even bad talent because it will prevent you from making future moves when a good opportunity arises? This situation is a clear example of that.


nah, .... they'll make the same mistake a couple of years from now.

I hope people like Tuscon are happy. The Flyers did exactly what he wanted and this is the result.

 

[Curufinwe]

Frankly, if Fletcher’s job is at stake and he’s not doing this, then he should be fired immediately, unless they think Gaudreau always had the Devils at the top. Of course he should’ve been fired already, but I’m looking at this through the enablers’ position.

Well there's always Palat and Burakovsky as backups.

 

[JABEE]

It really is a disgrace

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Frankly, if Fletcher’s job is at stake and he’s not doing this, then he should be fired immediately, unless they think Gaudreau always had the Devils at the top. Of course he should’ve been fired already, but I’m looking at this through the enablers’ position.

The Authentics won’t interpret it that way. All they will see is the rumours of JG wanting to play for Philly, for many years now, and to be quite honest, it all makes sense as to why he’d want to come back. Less pressure on a crap team, best friend on the team, etc. I think the chance of NJ being his top choice are basically non existent. It all comes down to salary cap.

 

[mja]

if gaudreau signs somewhere else, could there be a silver lining?
could the organization learn a lesson?

You don't recklessly spend high salary cap figures on average or even bad talent because it will prevent you from making future moves when a good opportunity arises? This situation is a clear example of that.


nah, .... they'll make the same mistake a couple of years from now.

I hope people like Tuscon is happy. The Flyers did exactly what he wanted and this is the result.

How's that? Opportunity cost is a thing, you say?

 

[landsbergfan]

I'm interested to see what they do in Goal. If you're taking CapFriendly as Gospel, be aware that they have Fedotov as the backup at 925k. If they're signing a vet, it's costing more.

I would imagine Jones is plan B, but goalie market is fluid. With Harts injury history the Flyers aren't a bad fit for backups.

 

[mja]

The Authentics won’t interpret it that way. All they will see is the rumours of JG wanting to play for Philly, for many years now, and to be quite honest, it all makes sense as to why he’d want to come back. Less pressure on a crap team, best friend on the team, etc. I think the chance of NJ being his top choice are basically non existent. It all comes down to salary cap.

Reading some stuff from Calgary, and it seems JG really wants to be in Philly for family reasons more than anything else. Interesting how family concerns seem to be driving decision-making more than in the past. I totally get it though.

 

[landsbergfan]

If the only thing standing between Gaudreau and the Flyers is JVR's contract, that contract is getting moved within the next few hours. It does not matter the cost. It's going to get moved.

My guess is that it will be for the 2023 1st with Top 2 or 3 protection to Chicago.

I'm shocked there's anyone that doubts that. This has nothing to do with how you or I would approach free agency or the org as a whole. If he picks them, they're doing it.

This situation Fletcher has backed himself into is our version of the Stanley Cup

 

[Cootsfanclub]

Well there's always Palat and Burakovsky as backups.

The backup is probably Kessel and they're spending more time on an instagram post about "Philly Kessel" than they are on putting together a good team.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I don't really trust anything reported this morning short of a done deal to any team. If you're Fletcher, you're trying to do this, and you have a shred of competency, you leak that the ask is too high for JVR. There's no downside.

Now if all of a sudden Lebrun says Provorov is available, that's different. JVR is the known. The damage is done there.

 

[mja]

I'm so confused by his post lol

He replied to me on the main board Cutter thread and I couldn't make heads or tails of what he was trying to say. Only thing I could do was to reply with a confused Dude gif.

 

[Prongo]

I don't really trust anything reported this morning short of a done deal to any team. If you're Fletcher, you're trying to do this, and you have a shred of competency, you leak that the ask is too high for JVR. There's no downside.

Now if all of a sudden Lebrun says Provorov is available, that's different. JVR is the known. The damage is done there.

Lot of negotiations going through the media.

 

[flyers0909]

Real benefit here is the media/authentics are going to flip a shit if Cuck misses out here. Most of them already are.

 

[BiggE]

I’m just going to sit back and watch Cuck slowly die by ineptitude . By the time they actually fire him it will be a mercy killing.

 

[landsbergfan]

He has no choice unless he wants to resign tomorrow. He either gets this done or he's done.

I wish I believed that

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Real benefit here is the media/authentics are going to flip a shit if Cuck misses out here. Most of them already are.

If they miss Gaudreau it is going to get ugly online

 

[BiggE]

Who am I kidding, Cuck won’t be fired. He’ll be promoted as his reward for incompetence. It’s the Flyer way.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Honestly surprised the elder statesman’s impulses hasn’t kicked in yet to just give these teams & Gaudreau whatever they want.