Prospect Info: 2022-23 Oilers Prospects Thread

[McDNicks17]

That's not the way it works when in the same draft year and most times they actually played same year peewee, bantam, and midget together all along. They didnt necessarily start sooner. Ya there may be a bit of consideration but when scouting the scouts compare everyone within the draft year together and don't go and compare someone's stats with a November birthday from the previous year with the June kids current stats. They may note some physical maturity etc. as part of it.

If you do it the way you are saying in the case of Beryozkin and Petrov you are comparing Beryozkin only playing one year of MHL and Petrov playing 1.5 years in the MHL and maybe the rest of the year practice with MHL team so Petrov had more development in the MHL in your comparable year.

That's how the NHL determines age.

Scouts don't really look at stats, but I can tell you how a late birthday prospect played as a 17 year old in their D-1 is a huge factor that's considered. Guys like Holloway and Yamo who dominated in their D-1 years are going to be valued higher than guys who were underwhelming at 17.

Petrov had more years in the MHL because he played a league higher than Beryozkin at the same age every year going back to when he was 15. I'd guess that's because he was the better player at those ages.

 

[Caser]

Nuge is 29 and he can't grow shit either

Some guys will never be able to grow much facial hair. Look at the Nuge's pathetic attempts.

Edit :I see Joe beat me to the punch on this response.

Fair enough, although with that being said I still think the chance Nuge is able to buy a beer without being asked for his ID is higher than it is for Kaprizov.

 

[Caser]

That's how the NHL determines age.

Scouts don't really look at stats, but I can tell you how a late birthday prospect played as a 17 year old in their D-1 is a huge factor that's considered. Guys like Holloway and Yamo who dominated in their D-1 years are going to be valued higher than guys who were underwhelming at 17.

Petrov had more years in the MHL because he played a league higher than Beryozkin at the same age every year going back to when he was 15. I'd guess that's because he was the better player at those ages.

For the MHL it also varies by the organization, as Loko is always a very strong team with a lot of depth, same can't be said for Krylya Sovetov team.

 

[McMozesmadness]

The Red Rocket is at it again!

Two goals in the 1st. Thunderbirds up 3-1 after one period of play

 

[Giggleplex]

The Red Rocket is at it again!

Two goals in the 1st. Thunderbirds up 3-1 after one period of play

Reid Rocket

 

[McMozesmadness]

Schaefer with a ENG to complete the hattrick. His second on the year

16P (13G 3A) through 10GP to start the year

He's also averaging nearly five shots per game

 

[nafrelio]

Reid Rocket

I still prefer "Ginger Beef". Best fit I've heard.

Sure loving watching this kid pile up the goals. Making our scouts look great so far!

Love the complimentary talent we are adding to our core - Hyman, Kane, and then Holloway, and many of our prospects look to fill a need for size, skill and strength!

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Schaefer with a ENG to complete the hattrick. His second on the year

16P (13G 3A) through 10GP to start the year

He's also averaging nearly five shots per game

Haven't been watching him but the 5 shots per game is even more encouraging to me than the raw goal totals. It suggests that the player is getting into the right places to receive passes/get to loose pucks which are absolutely crucial skills for a player who can hopefully one day flank one of our elite playmaking centers.

 

[fireantz]

Haven't been watching him but the 5 shots per game is even more encouraging to me than the raw goal totals. It suggests that the player is getting into the right places to receive passes/get to loose pucks which are absolutely crucial skills for a player who can hopefully one day flank one of our elite playmaking centers.

Sounds like a fit in our top nine!

 

[Canovin]

Schaefer with a ENG to complete the hattrick. His second on the year

16P (13G 3A) through 10GP to start the year

He's also averaging nearly five shots per game

Tied with Bedard in goals with 5 less games played

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Haven't been watching him but the 5 shots per game is even more encouraging to me than the raw goal totals. It suggests that the player is getting into the right places to receive passes/get to loose pucks which are absolutely crucial skills for a player who can hopefully one day flank one of our elite playmaking centers.

Exactly. And he has a shooter's mentality which is also something that we need to add to our club's top 6. If all of Holloway, Bourgault and Schaeffer pan out to be top 9 players we are laughing our way to the top of the league.

 

[McAsuno]

Go Ginger Beef!

 

[CupofOil]

Exactly. And he has a shooter's mentality which is also something that we need to add to our club's top 6. If all of Holloway, Bourgault and Schaeffer pan out to be top 9 players we are laughing our way to the top of the league.

 

[Stoneman89]

Schaefer with a ENG to complete the hattrick. His second on the year

16P (13G 3A) through 10GP to start the year

He's also averaging nearly five shots per game

Only 3 apples, what a selfish prick!

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Exactly. And he has a shooter's mentality which is also something that we need to add to our club's top 6. If all of Holloway, Bourgault and Schaeffer pan out to be top 9 players we are laughing our way to the top of the league.

We still have the Tier 2 class of prospects as well in Tullio, Savoie, Lavoie, Hamblin, Philip and Kostin with a healthy dose of low-mid and bottom pair D coming along.

Things are indeed looking up.

 

[McFlyingV]

5 goals in 7 games for Kesselring. Can't say I was expecting that

 

[Bryanbryoil]

5 goals in 7 games for Kesselring. Can't say I was expecting that

1st in goalscoring for AHL defensemen, 8th in points with 6 and 5th in shots on goal with 20.

I don't anticipate the goalscoring continuing at this pace, but this kid better be getting some NHL consideration at some point. This might be our eventual Barrie replacement on the 3rd pairing.

 

[Biltmore]

We still have the Tier 2 class of prospects as well in Tullio, Savoie, Lavoie, Hamblin, Philip and Kostin with a healthy dose of low-mid and bottom pair D coming along.

Things are indeed looking up.

Looks like a 13 year old kid wrote that tweet! Is that the way grown men write on Twitter with their cutesy little emojis? Bwahahahaha

 

[McMozesmadness]

Kesselring always had tantalizing raw tools, we're slowly seeing it come together for him. We should all be excited about what he can add to this team down the road

I think he fits our playstyle well. Loves to join the offence. He's also a tree. He can clog lanes and play with an edge. That side of his game still needs refinement. He's coming though. The potential is sky high

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

We still have the Tier 2 class of prospects as well in Tullio, Savoie, Lavoie, Hamblin, Philip and Kostin with a healthy dose of low-mid and bottom pair D coming along.

Things are indeed looking up.

Super funny to look back at the (over) reaction to the Shaefer Draft Thread and definitive posts to declare this a bad pick. Lmao.

Oil drafted a big body power forward type with high end shot who can score from distance or bulling opposition in the battle blue paint areas. A major draft riser after getting better in a long playoff run. Low floor with body size and game to play bottom six and enough raw skills including weaponized elite shot to prospectively play higher in an NHL lineup. A very good big body package to add to a pipeline of smaller skill forwards.

Oil are building up a nice, well rounded pipeline of prospects at forward and D including raw projects like Kesselring. Bigger, high compete, the support pieces for sustaining success are coming into focus.

 

[aspin3]

That's how the NHL determines age.

Scouts don't really look at stats, but I can tell you how a late birthday prospect played as a 17 year old in their D-1 is a huge factor that's considered. Guys like Holloway and Yamo who dominated in their D-1 years are going to be valued higher than guys who were underwhelming at 17.

Petrov had more years in the MHL because he played a league higher than Beryozkin at the same age every year going back to when he was 15. I'd guess that's because he was the better player at those ages.

Note your contradicting yourself. You said that Would have to look at Beryozkin's D-1 year to level the years of development they had. Then in this thread you are saying that years in a a certain league are not considered more development. Doing it purely by age of 6 extra months is not accurate.

BY your rationale of years of "development" someone who starts playing hockey at 4 has 6 more years development then someone who started playing at 10.

I agree that late birthday prospects have a bit of a dactor but not huge. Go read any of the scouting reports...pick any of McKeen's Central Scouting, Redline....any of them and at most it is a passing comment and not even comparable to the production in their draft year.

 

[Canovin]

Go Ginger Beef!

The Habs 3 months after drafting Slafkovsky: "wait this isn't Schaefer???!!!"

 

[McMozesmadness]

Nikita Yevseyev scored his 4th of the season this morning

I’ve never seen this kid play. I have zero book on him. My god is his production fascinating though



Here’s another vide with more viewpoints

 

[Canovin]

Nikita Yevseyev scored his 4th of the season this morning

I’ve never seen this kid play. I have zero book on him. My god is his production fascinating though

It's hard to get excited for our European prospects. We either don't extend them(Berglund), or get drunk in the summer and forget to sign them(Blumel), or they have one bad year in the minors and we terminate their contract(Konovalov), or have one bad game and trade them(Samorukov)

 

[Aerchon]

It's hard to get excited for our European prospects. We either don't extend them(Berglund), or get drunk in the summer and forget to sign them(Blumel), or they have one bad year in the minors and we terminate their contract(Konovalov), or have one bad game and trade them(Samorukov)

This.

The Oilers just seem intent on giving away NHL talent both Euro or otherwise IMO. I hope that bleeding of NHL prospects stops sooner than later.