Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I'll just add this...I listen to a lot of Toronto radio hockey talk. I realize their market is ginormous, but it's really nice to have so many opinions and people talking hockey. Even though it's Leaf centric followed closely by anything Canadian hockey related, you can really get some interesting and diverse takes on teams, players, the league and anything hockey related. I know we will never have that kind of a market here but it would be really nice to have some daily hockey content with knowledgeable people involved and talking.

One disclaimer...All the talking heads are employed by TSN and not the Leafs so they are much freer to be critical of the team when need be. You won't obviously get that with a team controlled broadcast network.

 

[MMC]

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

The venom expressed toward a new GM barely one year into his tenure seems odd to me. I'm sure he's not perfect and will make mistakes giving people plenty to criticize. But this early is ridiculous. I may well jump on the bandwagon to run him out of town at some point down the road, but it won't be this early.

I was one of the biggest defenders of giving Eakins a chance when he first got promoted while many hated the choice immediately. I gave him time to prove himself before finally agreeing with the naysayers. GMs generally take longer than coaches to truly evaluate. Maybe we should see the body of his work before bringing out the pitchforks?

TIL that criticism is the same as "expressing venom" and "bringing out the pitchforks."

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

TIL that criticism is the same as "expressing venom" and "bringing out the pitchforks."

Questioning moves is one thing. Some people are convinced they know exactly what he's thinking, exactly what he's doing or not doing and exactly what he should be doing as if they had all the inside knowledge of the team. Then they "criticize" his moves/non-moves because he's not doing it right, as if they know the "right" way to do everything. All in his first year mind you. Yeah, some have the pitchforks out and it's pretty easy to see.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Questioning moves is one thing. Some people are convinced they know exactly what he's thinking, exactly what he's doing or not doing and exactly what he should be doing as if they had all the inside knowledge of the team. Then they "criticize" his moves/non-moves because he's not doing it right, as if they know the "right" way to do everything. All in his first year mind you. Yeah, some have the pitchforks out and it's pretty easy to see.

If what you say is true, then that's ridiculous. All I've seen on here are people pointing out that he has public speaking problems and he should be relying on his scouting staff to do their jobs. Far from anything condemning him as the GM this early in his tenure.

 

[Leonardo87]

If what you say is true, then that's ridiculous. All I've seen on here are people pointing out that he has public speaking problems and he should be relying on his scouting staff to do their jobs. Far from anything condemning him as the GM this early in his tenure.

Yeah, I’m not getting that vibe on here about Verbeek. It’s too soon to really judge, Eakins on the other hand, had his run. He needed to move on, that was pretty much the consensus here, even had one of those fun little polls, lol.

 

[Ducks]

I think it's great that he's at the tournament with his scouts watching games in person and meeting with them to discuss draft picks and potential moves. That's a sign of an involved leader. Any accusations that he's neglecting hiring a coach because he's performing a different facet of his job as GM are based purely on speculation. If I knocked back a shot for every logical fallacy thrown at Verbeek over this, I'd be passed out on the couch at this point.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Yeah, I’m not getting that vibe on here about Verbeek. It’s too soon to really judge, Eakins on the other hand, had his run. He needed to move on, that was pretty much the consensus here, even had one of those fun little polls, lol.

I still maintain it would've been a good idea to keep Eakins in the organization in some capacity. He might not have been able to offer much in terms of on-ice success, but people like that are rare and shouldn't be wholly discarded.

I'm not sure how feasible that would've been, but the players loved him and he seemed to want to stay with the organization.

 

[Leonardo87]

I still maintain it would've been a good idea to keep Eakins in the organization in some capacity. He might not have been able to offer much in terms of on-ice success, but people like that are rare and shouldn't be wholly discarded.

I'm not sure how feasible that would've been, but the players loved him and he seemed to want to stay with the organization.

Players loved him and didn‘t quit on him , they just had no idea what they were doing out there, and it showed. Granted the roster was also an issue, and unless that gets support don’t see us having that much better results to be honest.

The thing is we need to start being competitive, I’m not talking about playoffs, I’m talking about not having to have a separate tank thread for discussion, lol.

Need to start throwing these kids in a more competitive atmosphere, more wins, and at least some hope to reach the playoffs even if it doesn’t happen.

 

[lwvs84]

I think it's great that he's at the tournament with his scouts watching games in person and meeting with them to discuss draft picks and potential moves. That's a sign of an involved leader. Any accusations that he's neglecting hiring a coach because he's performing a different facet of his job as GM are based purely on speculation. If I knocked back a shot for every logical fallacy thrown at Verbeek over this, I'd be passed out on the couch at this point.

Verbeek was a pro scout too, right? I wonder if he's looking at some FA's to sign as stop gaps. Getting another Hakanpaa would be awesome.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Players loved him and didn‘t quit on him , they just had no idea what they were doing out there, and it showed. Granted the roster was also an issue, and unless that gets support don’t see us having that much better results to be honest.

The thing is we need to start being competitive, I’m not talking about playoffs, I’m talking about not having to have a separate tank thread for discussion, lol.

Need to start throwing these kids in a more competitive atmosphere, more wins, and at least some hope to reach the playoffs even if it doesn’t happen.

Agreed. I think Verbeek made a good point in the Eakins press conference about the players needing to spend less time in the defensive zone in order to continue developing. It felt like it couldn't get worse than this season, but we'll see what the new coach brings.

If Verbeek can shore up the defense, that would really go a long way too. Seems like a tall task though.

 

[ADHB]

I still maintain it would've been a good idea to keep Eakins in the organization in some capacity. He might not have been able to offer much in terms of on-ice success, but people like that are rare and shouldn't be wholly discarded.

I'm not sure how feasible that would've been, but the players loved him and he seemed to want to stay with the organization.

As much as we think Eakins is done as an NHL coach, I highly doubt he thinks that. So the chances of him taking some mentorship, or developmental type role in the organization was never going to happen. Maybe a few years down the road after he's exhausted all outside options, he'd consider it.

But I agree, if it was at all realistic, I would have loved for him to be in the development department, or in San Diego.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

As much as we think Eakins is done as an NHL coach, I highly doubt he thinks that. So the chances of him taking some mentorship, or developmental type role in the organization was never going to happen. Maybe a few years down the road after he's exhausted all outside options, he'd consider it.

But I agree, if it was at all realistic, I would have loved for him to be in the development department, or in San Diego.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I'm really not sure if it would've been feasible. It's good to see it didn't take long for him to get back on his feet in some regard now that he's with Sportsnet.

You have to wonder what kind of team would take a chance on him as a head coach if that's what he wants to pursue. His NHL record is pretty rough. Maybe his haircut helps to negate that.

 

[ADHB]

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I'm really not sure if it would've been feasible. It's good to see it didn't take long for him to get back on his feet in some regard now that he's with Sportsnet.

You have to wonder what kind of team would take a chance on him as a head coach if that's what he wants to pursue. His NHL record is pretty rough. Maybe his haircut helps to negate that.

Oh I highly doubt anyone would even consider him at this point, but it's possible he catches on as an assistant somewhere. Or maybe he takes another job as an AHL head coach in a different organization, where there's at least a small possibility of getting promoted.

 

[MMC]

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Reworking of the old gaurd. If anything this is exciting to see where this franchise will be going

 

[Rybread86]

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Dang Huff has been around for a while. 7 or 8 years as head trainer I think. Wonder if this is part of Beekers desire to get guys stronger or something.

 

[cheesymc]

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I hope this is based on Walker's ability and not just PV hiring a buddy from his Red Wings relationships. But this looks to be just a lateral opportunity for Chapman.

Anyhow, its definitely good to get a fresh look in this area.

 

[MMC]

Dang Huff has been around for a while. 7 or 8 years as head trainer I think. Wonder if this is part of Beekers desire to get guys stronger or something.

He's had the position since 2013-14, Walker has been his assistant since 2018-19.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Even if Huff was great at his job (not saying he wasn't, honestly don't have an opinion) I don't think it's a bad idea to get some fresh blood in for a role like this.

 

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Seems like something is happening today?

 

[Leonardo87]

Seems like something is happening today?

Back to the Mighty Ducks logo?

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Back to the Mighty Ducks logo?

Zegras extension would be my guess.

 

[Leonardo87]

Zegras extension would be my guess.

Yeah just posted that in the other thread. He is close with Bucci, So seems to make sense if he were to break it,

 

[All Mighty]

Zegras extension would be my guess.

Yeah just posted that in the other thread. He is close with Bucci, So seems to make sense if he were to break it,

Definitely possible, but I also feel like Buccigross typically posts gifs of the specific player when it's player-related. This feels more like a team-related item.