Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[Static]

 

[Leonardo87]

 

[bsu]

Stop ruining records in every sport with more games... And more injuries.

 

[goonsaredumb]

They did it for one season in the 90's and it seemed to work out fine, I'll never complain about getting more hockey

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

They did it for one season in the 90's and it seemed to work out fine, I'll never complain about getting more hockey

Two seasons! My first couple seasons as more than a casual fan. So a part of me feels like 84 is the correct amount of games to play in an NHL season.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

They did it for one season in the 90's and it seemed to work out fine, I'll never complain about getting more hockey

Even this year?

 

[Ducks DVM]

Just drop a couple of pointless preseason games

 

[Leonardo87]

Just drop a couple of pointless preseason games

It’s what the NFL did to get up to 17 games.

 

[mightyquack]

It’s what the NFL did to get up to 17 games.

NFL ruined the best schedule in NA sports by doing that.

 

[bsu]

NFL ruined the best schedule in NA sports by doing that.

Yep, stop f***ing with stuff that affects records in the sports history so much.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Yep, stop f***ing with stuff that affects records in the sports history so much.

The NHL hasn’t even remotely had enough stability in their seasons to get worked up about this.

‘67-68 -74
‘68-70 -76
‘70-74 - 78
‘74-92 - 80
‘92-94 - 84
‘94-95 - 48
‘95-12 - 82 (0 games lockout in ‘04-05)
‘12-13 - 0
‘13-19 - 82
‘19-20 - 68-71
‘20-21 - 56
‘21-22 - 82

In addition,

‘83-84 - 5 minute OT started
‘05-06 - 2 line pass rule removed
‘15-16 - 3v3 OT

 

[bsu]

The NHL hasn’t even remotely had enough stability in their seasons to get worked up about this.

‘67-68 -74
‘68-70 -76
‘70-74 - 78
‘74-92 - 80
‘92-94 - 84
‘94-95 - 48
‘95-12 - 82 (0 games lockout in ‘04-05)
‘12-13 - 0
‘13-19 - 82
‘19-20 - 68-71
‘21-22 - 56
‘22-23 - 82

In addition,

‘83-84 - 5 minute OT started
‘05-06 - 2 line pass rule removed
‘15-16 - 3v3 OT

It's been over 82 once according to your chart, changing it forever basically means everyone new will have all the season records. I get it, every business is about $$$ as we see with the jersey and helmet ads.

 

[Ducks DVM]

It's been over 82 once according to your chart, changing it forever basically means everyone new will have all the season records. I get it, every business is about $$$ as we see with the jersey and helmet ads.

In 55 seasons, the game count has been zero twice, under 82 in 26 seasons, over 82 in 2 seasons, and has had the potential for an extra 5 minutes in 40 of those seasons (minus the two lockout years).

82 games of 60-65 minutes is not remotely an actual league standard. Especially when you go to pre-expansion. Every record needs an asterisk for individual records, and even more so for team records with all the rules changes as far as penalties, ending ties in regulation, instigation of the OTL, as stated the two line pass, etc.

 

[DuckRogers10]

The schedule is fine the way it is. How about worrying about getting better refereeing.

 

[Ducks DVM]

The schedule is fine the way it is. How about worrying about getting better refereeing.

You and your pipe dreams

 

[Static]

Exclusive | MLB, NBA and NHL unlikely to save struggling TV regional sports networks: sources

The nation’s dominant owner of regional sports networks may be headed toward a bankruptcy filing that could hasten a nationwide migration of sports fans away from cable TV, The Post has learn…

nypost.com

 

[Dryish]

Exclusive | MLB, NBA and NHL unlikely to save struggling TV regional sports networks: sources

The nation’s dominant owner of regional sports networks may be headed toward a bankruptcy filing that could hasten a nationwide migration of sports fans away from cable TV, The Post has learn…

nypost.com

As an international fan, a small part of me hopes this will lead to the advent of a centralized streaming platform by the big leagues that I could directly pay for, need I use a VPN or not. Pipe dream, I know, but maybe one day when the shifting market forces the leagues' hands.

I'm just never going to pay exorbitant monthly prices for channel packages that come with dozens of other channels I have literally zero interest in to get my hands on American sports action, especially when it often also comes with worse local broadcasting and commentary. So I'm stuck in a spot where, as a consumer, I'd like to be able to pay money to the entertainment provider, but cannot. And look for, uh, alternative means of viewing I do.

 

[Frosted Tips]

As an international fan, a small part of me hopes this will lead to the advent of a centralized streaming platform by the big leagues that I could directly pay for, need I use a VPN or not. Pipe dream, I know, but maybe one day when the shifting market forces the leagues' hands.

I'm just never going to pay exorbitant monthly prices for channel packages that come with dozens of other channels I have literally zero interest in to get my hands on American sports action, especially when it often also comes with worse local broadcasting and commentary. So I'm stuck in a spot where, as a consumer, I'd like to be able to pay money to the entertainment provider, but cannot. And look for, uh, alternative means of viewing I do.

Preach brother

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I know what he did. I understand why he did it. I also feel it was a mistake and I'm not going to act like it wasn't. If this team is relevant in less than 3 years I'll eat my words but I think it's closer to 5-8 at this point.

It's not that extreme (5-8 years) if things pan out. If Verbeek takes over 5 years, then his project failed considering Verbeek inherited Terry, Z, and Drysdale and a top-5 farm team that includes McTavish and Zellweger.

Judging Verbeek now is far too early. He does have TDL acquisitions, the 2022 draft, and 2022 off-season acquisitions. It will take a 2-3 years to see what transpires with the 2022 draft class.

If we include this year's first round pick, then the Ducks will have secured four top-6 forwards of the future in Terry, Zegras, McTavish, and 2023 first round draft pick. Anaheim has a potential top young goalies in Dostal, Clang (Verbeek TDL), and Butyetes (Verbeek 2023 draft). Dostal has recently showed off his talents with 2 regulation consecutive wins. The biggest hurdle for Verbeek is finding a capable defense. There isn't a #1 two-way D on the roster, but it does have a lot of talent that can be paired together in the traditional OFD-DFD pairing and have three pairs of 2nd pairing D.

A big win for Verbeek, imo, is if he can sign both college guys D LaCombe and D Thrun. Why is this? Draft capital.

Ducks young D

RD Drysdale (NHL)​

LD Vaaks (NHL - Verbeek TDL)​

RD Andersson (AHL)​

RD Helleson (AHL - Verbeek TDL)​

LD/RD LaCombe (NCAA0​

LD Thrun (NCAA)​

RD Moore (NCAA)​

LD/RD Zellweger (CHL)​

LD Hinds (CHL)​

LD Mintyukov (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

RD Warren (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

RD Luneau (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

2023 Draft picks at this moment (6 in first three rounds)

Rd 1. Ducks​

Rd 2. Ducks, Bruins, Avs​

Rd 3. Ducks, Minny​

Verbeek can find a true #1 two-way D by trading for one with the excess of prospect D in a two to three years, in the 2024 or 2025 off-season.

 

[Rybread86]

Exclusive | MLB, NBA and NHL unlikely to save struggling TV regional sports networks: sources

The nation’s dominant owner of regional sports networks may be headed toward a bankruptcy filing that could hasten a nationwide migration of sports fans away from cable TV, The Post has learn…

nypost.com

This likely is also due to politicization of sports, but they likely will never admit that. Then you have really dumb contract obligations that blackout games that people should be able to watch, on top of horrid announcers like Hextal that are forced down our throats due to "equality standards".

You want to fix the sports broadcasting world? Let people pay for the team(s) they want to watch! Also, the leagues need to remember, 99% of fans watch sports to escape from politics and current events, not to be reminded of all the things that drive a wedge between us.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

This likely is also due to politicization of sports, but they likely will never admit that. Then you have really dumb contract obligations that blackout games that people should be able to watch, on top of horrid announcers like Hextal that are forced down our throats due to "equality standards".

You want to fix the sports broadcasting world? Let people pay for the team(s) they want to watch! Also, the leagues need to remember, 99% of fans watch sports to escape from politics and current events, not to be reminded of all the things that drive a wedge between us.

Very well said.. Politics and Sports should never be in the same line.. but here we are.. Dont remind of Hextal.. shes just bad at what she does

 

[Static]

Whenever I hear people talk about keeping politics out of sports this is all I can think of. Sports are made up of people and interpersonal connections that are impossible to separate, I'd advise searching within why that bothers you so much.

I won't say anything else, I don't want to derail this.

 

[DavidBL]

It's not that extreme (5-8 years) if things pan out. If Verbeek takes over 5 years, then his project failed considering Verbeek inherited Terry, Z, and Drysdale and a top-5 farm team that includes McTavish and Zellweger.

Judging Verbeek now is far too early. He does have TDL acquisitions, the 2022 draft, and 2022 off-season acquisitions. It will take a 2-3 years to see what transpires with the 2022 draft class.

If we include this year's first round pick, then the Ducks will have secured four top-6 forwards of the future in Terry, Zegras, McTavish, and 2023 first round draft pick. Anaheim has a potential top young goalies in Dostal, Clang (Verbeek TDL), and Butyetes (Verbeek 2023 draft). Dostal has recently showed off his talents with 2 regulation consecutive wins. The biggest hurdle for Verbeek is finding a capable defense. There isn't a #1 two-way D on the roster, but it does have a lot of talent that can be paired together in the traditional OFD-DFD pairing and have three pairs of 2nd pairing D.

A big win for Verbeek, imo, is if he can sign both college guys D LaCombe and D Thrun. Why is this? Draft capital.

Ducks young D

RD Drysdale (NHL)​

LD Vaaks (NHL - Verbeek TDL)​

RD Andersson (AHL)​

RD Helleson (AHL - Verbeek TDL)​

LD/RD LaCombe (NCAA0​

LD Thrun (NCAA)​

RD Moore (NCAA)​

LD/RD Zellweger (CHL)​

LD Hinds (CHL)​

LD Mintyukov (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

RD Warren (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

RD Luneau (CHL - Verbeek 2022 draft)​

2023 Draft picks at this moment (6 in first three rounds)

Rd 1. Ducks​

Rd 2. Ducks, Bruins, Avs​

Rd 3. Ducks, Minny​

Verbeek can find a true #1 two-way D by trading for one with the excess of prospect D in a two to three years, in the 2024 or 2025 off-season.

How many legitimate top pairing D have become available in the last 15 years? We know all the contracts that end in the next 4 years. Are there targets there? If they're not ufa we have to trade for them. The likely hood of that, imo, regardless if trade assets is very small.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

This likely is also due to politicization of sports, but they likely will never admit that. Then you have really dumb contract obligations that blackout games that people should be able to watch, on top of horrid announcers like Hextal that are forced down our throats due to "equality standards".

You want to fix the sports broadcasting world? Let people pay for the team(s) they want to watch! Also, the leagues need to remember, 99% of fans watch sports to escape from politics and current events, not to be reminded of all the things that drive a wedge between us.

I think the Sinclair group got too greedy. They upped the price for cable to retain their services and cable said, "Nah, we're good." Cable was already costly and adding more cost while there's streaming probably had to say no. Many cable companies stopped carrying regional sports coverages and that mean huge losses of revenue for Bally Sports (Sinclair group).

Conflate that with the terribly late creation of online streaming at also a higher pay rate reveals the demise of Sinclair group's greediness. There were reports of projected bankruptcy before the Bally Sports + was officially launched.

ESPN+ covers all non-local teams were has Bally Sports covers only local teams. ESPN+ costs $10, but Bally Sports + costs $20. Bally was charging double for far less coverage of teams with respect to NHL coverage. ESPN+ and a VPN costs less than Bally Sports+, depending on one's VPN. VPN's range from free to $3/mo to $6/mo and higher.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

How many legitimate top pairing D have become available in the last 15 years? We know all the contracts that end in the next 4 years. Are there targets there? If they're not ufa we have to trade for them. The likely hood of that, imo, regardless if trade assets is very small.

You gotta be more open minded about the future. It's not what you or I wanted, but this is all we have.

Option 1
Instead of finding legitimate top pairing D, we can run three pairs of second pairing D. Remember how VGK didn't have a first line talent line, but four second line talents? We can potentially run it that way. While we don't have a Lindholm, we might have a few top-4 defensive Ds. What we do have in potential top pairing D are offensive D's in Drysdale and/or Mintyukov. Verbeek has shared a vision of a Mintyukov-Warren pairing, iirc.

Option 2
Load up on talents, especially D talents, and draft picks. When the team is more established, then having all these futures available can lead to a potential trade. My worry about a potential trade is that Verbeek sticking to his age-to-term rubric. Former GM Bob Murray was able to use his good drafting and roster dev to land top players such as Kesler, Eaves, or Rico. Burkie used prospects drafted before him in D Smid and F Lupul as well as draft picks to land Pronger.

Verbeek has options, especially since he's added to the talent Anaheim had already amassed before Verbeek got here.

Can the Ducks be dangerous without a top backend? Yes, see Florida. Their forward group is strong on the forecheck that it makes OFD's look better b/c the OFD's don't have to play defense often. Will we have that? I dunno, but we will have a great nucleus with four top-6 forwards in Terry, Zegras, McTavish, and the 2023 Ducks' first round pick.