Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

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So does anyone know the specific roles of Stothers, Brown, and Johnson?
I've worked with Johnson, he's a complete development coach. Really good with the kids.
 

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IF Eakins were to get canned I think it much more plausible that one of the assistants just gets the interim tab. I still have a feeling that Eakins is there for a reason and it will be at least the TDL before they let him go. But if they were to give Eakins the boot, which of the assistants get the HC gig?

For me its probably Stothers.
 

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IF Eakins were to get canned I think it much more plausible that one of the assistants just gets the interim tab. I still have a feeling that Eakins is there for a reason and it will be at least the TDL before they let him go. But if they were to give Eakins the boot, which of the assistants get the HC gig?

For me its probably Stothers.
Out of those 3 it would definitely be Stothers.
 

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So does anyone know the specific roles of Stothers, Brown, and Johnson?

Stothers is defense and PK. Brown and Johnson in charge of PP. Assume all partake in some development.

From TSN (about Ward and Brown):

Brown spent the past four seasons as an assistant with the Vancouver Canucks, where he was in charge of the team's power play. He and fellow new assistant Geoff Ward likely will be asked to fix the Ducks' power play, which was the worst unit in modern NHL history last season, scoring on just 8.9% of its chances.

From Yardbarker: (about Johnson)

Johnson has spent the previous four seasons in the Kings organization, serving as a development coach, a professional scout and an assistant coach on the staff of the Ontario Reign, the Kings’ AHL affiliate.

From OCR: (about Johnson)

Verbeek also said he hired former Ducks and Kings player Craig Johnson as an assistant coach to replace the departed Geoff Ward in order to focus on the ongoing development of players such as right wing Troy Terry and center Trevor Zegras.

I assume there was chatter about Johnson from a former King and now Ducks assistant GM Jeff Solomon.

From the Athletic: (about Stothers, Brown, and Ward)

There are primary reasons for assistant coaches to be hired, and the Ducks have some for the recent staff upheaval. Geoff Ward has extensive experience with NHL power plays and will attempt to fix the Ducks’ unit, which has failed more than any other since the league began tracking the statistic. Newell Brown also knows power plays and knows the organization, having had two prior stints in Anaheim and having been a part of the 2007 Stanley Cup-winning club. Mike Stothers will be tasked with getting the most out of an underachieving (and often-injured) defense corps.

About Stothers, assistant GM Solomon also worked with Stothers in the Kings org.
 

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If Stothers is in charge of defense and PK, that seems like the guy to be blaming, not the guy to be promoting.
I doubt they put Johnson or Brown in that spot either.... Johnson was coaching with me a couple years ago that would be like an older version of me taking over a NHL team (although he is very well respected in the local coaching community) He is really good at developing, communicating with young players.... kind of like Eakins....
 

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I doubt they put Johnson or Brown in that spot either.... Johnson was coaching with me a couple years ago that would be like an older version of me taking over a NHL team (although he is very well respected in the local coaching community) He is really good at developing, communicating with young players.... kind of like Eakins....
I mean I don’t think you were the main piece in a Gretzky trade like him though lol.

I never was coached by him but he coached my rival high school and I’ve heard really good things about him. And the guy definitely got results.
 

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I doubt they put Johnson or Brown in that spot either.... Johnson was coaching with me a couple years ago that would be like an older version of me taking over a NHL team (although he is very well respected in the local coaching community) He is really good at developing, communicating with young players.... kind of like Eakins....
Wait your a coach? I'm confused lol
 

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Wait your a coach? I'm confused lol
I coach and do private lessons with some AAA and AA Junior Ducks/Junior players/NCAA players with the D-Rinks contracted (Ducks organization. Johnson was the director of basically the coaching at the rinks and did player development) It's a small knit Etem is around a lot now too. Everyone knows everyone at the Rinks. He was also the head coach for Santa Margarita High School.

EDIT: Here's what they posted when they hired him

Johnson served as head coach of Santa Margarita Catholic High School in the Anaheim Ducks High School Hockey League (ADHSHL) from 2011-20, leading the team to three national titles in 2013, 2018 and 2019. In 2015 and 2017, the team was a finalist in the national championship game. Santa Margarita is California's only USA Hockey national varsity champion. He also led the program to four state titles and three ADHSHL Division 1 championships.

He served as director of coaching for the Anaheim Jr. Ducks at the AAA Junior level in 2013-14. Johnson spent one season as an assistant coach with the ECHL's Ontario Reign in 2010-11, and was as an assistant coach for Team USA at the 2015 Deutschland Cup.
 

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I coach and do private lessons with some AAA and AA Junior Ducks/Junior players/NCAA players with the D-Rinks contracted (Ducks organization. Johnson was the director of basically the coaching at the rinks and did player development) It's a small knit Etem is around a lot now too. Everyone knows everyone at the Rinks.
That's awesome... You need be our insider lmao
 

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Pretty substantial article on verbeek from Lebrun on the athletic this morning.
 

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I thought the new hires and expansion into sports science was a pretty big revelation, but maybe I'm the only one who hasn't seen that before.
For those interested:

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I believe Piscotty was a promotion, not a hire as he was the video coach IIRC. Or maybe just a new title for him.
 

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I thought the new hires and expansion into sports science was a pretty big revelation, but maybe I'm the only one who hasn't seen that before.
That's fair. I guess I just didn't equate that much for the team itself. Important for the org to be sure but not directly related to how he is building the roster.
 

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I thought the new hires and expansion into sports science was a pretty big revelation, but maybe I'm the only one who hasn't seen that before.
I think it also says, reading between the lines, that this year is about providing a support structure to help the kids grow, and that growing the kids is his goal. It seemed crystal clear to me that this year isn’t about winning. He may not complain if it happens, but making the playoffs is not the goal.
 

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That's fair. I guess I just didn't equate that much for the team itself. Important for the org to be sure but not directly related to how he is building the roster.

The article was great due to lots of insight. There are some very good things, some sketchy things, an admission, and the main goal for Verbeek at this time.

Main goal:
Develop the kids with patience. (Same goal as before)​

Admission:
Verbeek blew up the team at the TDL​

Very good things:
Added 5 stats positions and 3 amateur scouts to the NHL club.​
Added two hires for San Diego with a physical therapist and a data scientist & recovery guy.​
Wants a solid corps vets to help youths improve.​

Sketchy things:
Being up front with UFA's doesn't align with Manson and his agent not being contacted at all.​
The solid corps of vets (Klingberg, Kulikov, White, and Beaulieu) aren't helping the youths improve.​

From the article, you can tell Verbeek really is looking toward the future since he's trying to take the whole of the organization to present day technologies and methodologies. By expanding the front office and scouting, Verbeek will be trying to maximize the most of present and future players. I'm very happy to think that assistant GM Solomon had something to do with that data personnel improvements or nudging.

I remember the hour long YouTube video on Golod's improvement between two seasons in Juniors by using data to help improve Golod's game. That improvement in Golod's game got him signed by the Ducks. I want that guy and his scheme at our AHL level!



What Verbeek is creating has the potential to be amazing by adding more help everywhere in finding, building, and developing prospects to becoming useful NHL players. Unfortunately, there will be a messy transition from blowing up the team to having a roster he wants in the future. His vet addition on the forward grouping had thought with Strome and Vatrano, but his vet addition for defense was a last minute thing.

If Verbeek sees development in the kids this year despite not so great results in the standings, then it'll be a success for Vebeek as well as for Eakins. We're going to be getting more youths on both sides of the ice next season as well, especially on defense. That might imply Eakins could get yet another 1-year deal.
 
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bsu

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I think it also says, reading between the lines, that this year is about providing a support structure to help the kids grow, and that growing the kids is his goal. It seemed crystal clear to me that this year isn’t about winning. He may not complain if it happens, but making the playoffs is not the goal.
I have no problem with this year not being about winning, but we are getting absolutely dominated, our team will start to lose confidence even more. I've been on both sides of it, losing like this absolutely sucks. How can we develop any of our young kids if we can't get the puck and never have it? Everything we do is 1 and one and that's no way to develop any hockey player. I haven't even begun about how we are getting abused physically and put forward an effort similar to a 10pm Thursday night beer league game. No one tries to get the puck back everyone stands around and hopes someone else gets it. We don't need to sign stars or even top 6/top 4 players but lets sign some players that may make it easier for our kids....

News of cap going up possibly 4 million THIS offseason plus over 10 million in the coming years.... We gonna pay up to keep Terry around.... How miserable of a situation is this and will it be for the next couple years.... Most the players we have coming up (Zellweger, Mintyukov, Perreault, Tracey) won't even help us with our current deficits. He has a lot of work to do..... Those are all skill players that need the puck.... I hope coaching helps but we are probably learning so many bad habits and will this entire season.
 
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