Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[Foppberg]

Too many chicken littles around here man, good grief.

Also Draisaitl is a great interview, a no bullshit German.

 

[Avaholic29]

Yeah the team is too expensive on defense AND on wing. Which would be 100% fine if goaltending and centers were locked down... but when they aren't, teams get unbalanced.

I'm glad EJ got his Cup and for all that he's gone through, he earned it. He really shouldn't be on this team today.

If goaltending and centres were locked down they’d be too expensive and we’d have shit wingers and not the best defense In the nhl.

 

[Balthazar]

Yeah the team is too expensive on defense AND on wing.

Landy isn't going anywhere and Nuke/Lehks were just signed.

Mack's contract will decide Rants' faith long term on this team IMO.

They just can't afford a 9M-10M winger with Mack and Makar on the team. If we have to re-tool starting next year then trading Rants in the offseason would probably be the right move.

 

[LOFIN]

By all means, let's trade away the highest scoring forward we had on this playoff run.

 

[Balthazar]

By all means, let's trade away the highest scoring forward we had on this playoff run.

Maybe we could ask the league to allow us to have a 100M salary cap so we can keep everyone. What do you think?

 

[Avsboy]

Maybe we could ask the league to allow us to have a 100M salary cap so we can keep everyone. What do you think?

No need to ask, trade for Weber or Price on LTIR

 

[Balthazar]

No need to ask, trade for Weber or Price on LTIR

That wouldn't do shit.

 

[Perratrooper]

The issue you get with paying your core guys their value is when you overpay for depth and you can't draft well to bring in ELCs. I know the meme is rampant, but the 250-500k overpays add up and simply have to stop. The picks have to start coming in and being role players, maybe even getting a bargain for a year or two as an impact level player. If the Avs can't do that next season, the pain will build and start to hurt. This happens with all successful teams over time.

It is weird, but the Avs have been feeling cap pain for a while now. Problem is, it only gets more difficult from here. Not only do we have MacK this upcoming season, but Byram... who at minimum gets a bridge in the 5.5+m range. Long term, he's gonna be over 7. Any success with Newhook or Meyers is going to lead to more cap issues. Plus a lot of depth is UFA Then the following summer, you have Toews. The summer after that you have Rantanen, LOC and George. Tough decisions will have to be made each summer for the next four summers.... after two summers of losing Dong, Graves, Saad, Burkie, and Kadri.

If MacK wants $13m I think we trade Rantanen and Girard next year for cheaper options and prospects. Our pro scouting has been one of our strengths and IF Byram stays healthy AND Girard rebounds we are going to have a lot of defense that have a high value and cap hit. Might be an unpopular option to move Mikko, but I think it’s something that needs to be considered.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I mean the hardest aspect of our cap situation is that this all these guys were due with the flat cap. If it had been rising all along (like if the Pandemic had never happened) we'd be still be in a crunch because their salaries would probably all be higher than current, but I think overall the cap picture would look a little better for us, especially for us getting a 2C during the season if necessary.

I just wish the cap could start rising quickly now, to allow us to get some breathing room again.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Too many chicken littles around here man, good grief.

Also Draisaitl is a great interview, a no bullshit German.

Also known as, well a German.

 

[AvsWraith]

Do people here think that if Makar signed for 10mil last summer we still wouldn’t have won the cup?

I wish he would've if it meant more years.

Cale Makar is the best player in the NHL. Say what you want about McDavid, but it is much harder being a 1D in this league. And no one in the NHL can do what Cale does back there. The edge work and lateral movement in his highlight reel is one of a kind. Hobey Baker into Calder into Norris, Cup, and Conn Smythe, all within four seasons, has gotta be one of the most impressive trophy runs ever.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I wish he would've if it meant more years.

Cale Makar is the best player in the NHL. Say what you want about McDavid, but it is much harder being a 1D in this league. And no one in the NHL can do what Cale does back there. The edge work and lateral movement in his highlight reel is one of a kind. Hobey Baker into Calder into Norris, Cup, and Conn Smythe, all within four seasons, has gotta be one of the most impressive trophy runs ever.

He would have won a Gold medal if NHLers were allowed at the Olympics, too.

 

[hoserthehorrible]

I mean the hardest aspect of our cap situation is that this all these guys were due with the flat cap. If it had been rising all along (like if the Pandemic had never happened) we'd be still be in a crunch because their salaries would probably all be higher than current, but I think overall the cap picture would look a little better for us, especially for us getting a 2C during the season if necessary.

I just wish the cap could start rising quickly now, to allow us to get some breathing room again.

Today I read that the salary cap was going to increase significantly in 2 years. Not sure if this is legit but if true it would help the Avs quite a bit.

 

[Metallo]

He would have won a Gold medal if NHLers were allowed at the Olympics, too.

If the NHL goes to the 2026 OG Makar could very well captain Canada. He would be my choice.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Maybe not the same, but similar, yes. Mate, i get it. Money makes the world go 'round.

Yepp, we did win that thing. Let's keep that memory tight. Because it's likely the only one for the next 15-20 years. But, hey, MOOOOONEEEEEEEY!


So, what you are saying is: we have no choice. Not the best position to negotiate.

Then you quietly see what could be acquired trade wise for Mack. As a last resort plan of course

 

[Metallo]

Maybe we could ask the league to allow us to have a 100M salary cap so we can keep everyone. What do you think?

We need to get creative/cheat. Have our players sign huge endorsement deals, promise jobs with the org after they are done playing, I don't care. Just. Do. It.

 

[FreudsLeatherJacket]

Considering that no team with a 10M+ player has ever won a cup in the cap era, I'd say the chances to win a cup with a 13M player and two 9M players on the same team are pretty damn low regardless of management.

This is very misleading. The cap was $39 million in 2006, $59.4 million in 2010, $69 million in 2015, etc. The context of spending $10 million on one player in the cap era is very different in the present than it was in the past.

 

[CharlesPuck]

This is very misleading. The cap was $39 million in 2006, $59.4 million in 2010, $69 million in 2015, etc. The context of spending $10 million on one player in the cap era is very different in the present than it was in the past.

Yup. It’s one of those stats that doesn’t really hold up once you put it in context.

 

[Balthazar]

This is very misleading. The cap was $39 million in 2006, $59.4 million in 2010, $69 million in 2015, etc. The context of spending $10 million on one player in the cap era is very different in the present than it was in the past.

Fine.

Let's do it this way: Crosby signed his last contract at 14.5% cap hit. Today that'd translate to 11.96M. If Mack wants more than that he wants a bigger piece of the pie than Crosby.

 

[Miri]

He basically admits the Avs were the much better team. He said the each line on the Avs came at you wave after wave and there was no room to breathe and catch up.

He played on a high ankle sprain, which we all knew.

No word about when is he planning to start forcing a trade to us? :-P

 

[SB]

Fine.

Let's do it this way: Crosby signed his last contract at 14.5% cap hit. Today that'd translate to 11.96M. If Mack wants more than that he wants a bigger piece of the pie than Crosby.

By an entire percentage point. Bastard!

 

[Balthazar]

 

[Metallo]

Fine.

Let's do it this way: Crosby signed his last contract at 14.5% cap hit. Today that'd translate to 11.96M. If Mack wants more than that he wants a bigger piece of the pie than Crosby.

That's interesting. By that measure Mack would be worth something around 11M$ and not over 12.5M$.

 

[Eltuna]

Fine.

Let's do it this way: Crosby signed his last contract at 14.5% cap hit. Today that'd translate to 11.96M. If Mack wants more than that he wants a bigger piece of the pie than Crosby.

Crosbys deal has a cap hit that low due to the years attached which is not allowed any longer. Take away his three “dead” cap years and he signed for 10.6, which would be about a 17.7 CH%, or an AAV of 14.6 in todays climate.

Those really long cap circumvention deals like Crosbys, Keith’s, and Hossa’s were banned for a reason and shouldn’t be used in a comparative manner to the contracts of today.

 

[Balthazar]

Crosbys deal has a cap hit that low due to the years attached which is not allowed any longer. Take away his three “dead” cap years and he signed for 10.6, which would be about a 17.7 CH%, or an AAV of 14.6 in todays climate.

What dead cap years? He only has 3 years left and he's still a high end 1C.

Also he was seen as generational at the signing and Mack isn't.

People just need to stop trying to justify Mack getting 12M+.