Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

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Brock Nelson might be more « realistic ». Wouldn’t say no to him that’s for sure
Nelson would be realistic... I'm personally not a huge fan of his, but he's certainly a capable 2C and would likely succeed here. Skating would be a worry, but his shot would be very welcome here.
 
Nelson would be realistic... I'm personally not a huge fan of his, but he's certainly a capable 2C and would likely succeed here. Skating would be a worry, but his shot would be very welcome here.
Not a fan of Nelson, but 6M X 3 is probably exactly the kind of contract that Sakic is looking for at 2C.
 
How did things end with Stastny in Colorado?

He seems like he would fit potentially as a 1–2-year option for Avs at C at much cheaper rate then Kadri

Still productive player and strong on faceoffs
 
Not a fan of Nelson, but 6M X 3 is probably exactly the kind of contract that Sakic is looking for at 2C.
Yup. Assuming Byram gets a two year bridge after this upcoming season... it would fit perfectly.

Would give the Avs 3 years to find a young C replacement if it's not going to be Newhook or other.
 
How much MacKinnon will get paid will dictate what room we have for 2C going forward.
 
How did things end with Stastny in Colorado?

He seems like he would fit potentially as a 1–2-year option for Avs at C at much cheaper rate then Kadri

Still productive player and strong on faceoffs
That's an odd question. Stastny "pretended" to be on the fence about wanting to come back to the Avs all the while knowing full-well he wanted to sign in STL. It was his right to do so and all but I don't think Joe thought it was a ton of fun to be strung along like that.

I wouldn't have minded us bringing him back on a 1 year - $2M deal to play as the LW on the 3rd line and on the 2nd PP unit as some cheap depth as that guy is still in great shape even though he's never been the best skater but that was prior to free agency and I figured the #2C spot would be resolved by now. I also didn't expect the Avs to re-up Manson either and that would have given us more wiggle room.

I would be surprised if the Avs brought him back at all, to be honest.
 
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How did things end with Stastny in Colorado?

He seems like he would fit potentially as a 1–2-year option for Avs at C at much cheaper rate then Kadri

Still productive player and strong on faceoffs

He didn't leave on bad terms with the fans. Not sure about management, supposedly he left to St. Louis for the same/similar money Colorado offered.

There was speculation about a reunion in the 2018 off-season, but he ultimately signed with Vegas.

Personally I think he'd be a fine option.
 
I'd pick up Stastny over a lot of options thrown out there. He's still good for 20g. He can help the 2nd PP. He can play center at a reasonable level. Will come cheap. Can move around the lineup when needed. He's likely not an every night #2 that you want to go into the playoffs with... but as a 3C or middle 6 LW that can play center... I think he could bring a lot to the team.

On the UFA market, he's the best center option beyond Kadri. ERod isn't a center... neither is Donato. Rask sucks. Gagner isn't nearly as good as Stastny. Going with a plan of Rantaten at 2C with Stastny signed as a backup option in the top 6 isn't the worst idea in the world.
 
The Byram contract is kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Byram will demand a big payday and he's well within his rights to do so. His side will point directly to the Dahlin bridge as the target. He'd probably fall under, but high 5s is about as low as it would go. The next deal from there is likely 9-11m. If you go long-term next year... you're kinda forced over 7 and nearing 8 in an offseason with cap issues already, but it saves quite a bit if 4 seasons.
 
The Byram contract is kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Byram will demand a big payday and he's well within his rights to do so. His side will point directly to the Dahlin bridge as the target. He'd probably fall under, but high 5s is about as low as it would go. The next deal from there is likely 9-11m. If you go long-term next year... you're kinda forced over 7 and nearing 8 in an offseason with cap issues already, but it saves quite a bit if 4 seasons.
Byram would need to show me a season without a head related injury before I'd want the Avs to do more than a 2-3 year bridge deal. He definitely elevated his game and showed a lot of poise for a 21 year old in the playoffs but the injury history is still too recent.
 
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Byram would need to show me a season without a head related injury before I'd want the Avs to do more than a 2-3 year bridge deal. He definitely elevated his game and showed a lot of poise for a 21 year old in the playoffs but the injury history is still too recent.
Frankly I don't care about the term even with the injury questions... but I don't have to find or cut the check for the insurance.
 
2... Im still shocked the Joe Sakic core never won more than 2. They seemed to always underachieve in the playoffs.
Should have closed out Dallas on home ice at McNichols in game 6 of the 99 WCF and beaten Buffalo for the Cup.

In the 2000 WCF they had to win game 6 on home ice to force game 7 and then hit the post trying to send game 7 to OT.

Should have closed out Detroit on home ice in game 6 of the 02 WCF and went on to win the Cup. When Forsberg scored in OT in Detroit in game 5 to send the Avs home up 3-2 in the series everyone in the sports world thought the Avs were repeating. Roy's statue of liberty gaffe and the uninspired play the rest of the game from the team was a gigantic wasted opportunity. You have to close teams out when you have the chance instead of breathing life back into them and to this day that's why I still freak out when things happen like game 5 against St. Louis this year and taking the foot of the gas against Edmonton in game 1 and blowing a huge lead.

In the 4 year span from 99-02 they should have won more than 1.
 
The Byram contract is kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Byram will demand a big payday and he's well within his rights to do so. His side will point directly to the Dahlin bridge as the target. He'd probably fall under, but high 5s is about as low as it would go. The next deal from there is likely 9-11m. If you go long-term next year... you're kinda forced over 7 and nearing 8 in an offseason with cap issues already, but it saves quite a bit if 4 seasons.
I don’t think Dahlin will even be discussed much as the comparable for many many reasons (1st overall pick, potential, NHL experience, role/deployment, rebuilding/contending team, health, etc).

The Sergachev Tampa bridge is by far the best comparable available. I would expect the negotiation to start there and then both sides can argue either way. You can expect a CH% of more than 5 and less than 6 if the term stays at 3 years.
 
I don’t think Dahlin will even be discussed much as the comparable for many many reasons (1st overall pick, potential, NHL experience, role/deployment, rebuilding/contending team, health, etc).

The Sergachev Tampa bridge is by far the best comparable available. I would expect the negotiation to start there and then both sides can argue either way. You can expect a CH% of more than 5 and less than 6 if the term stays at 3 years.
Dahlin absolutely will be discussed... any of the recent bridge deals for young top 4D will be tossed around. So you have Werenski, Serg, and McAvoy (probably the player most comparable) around 5m as the low end with most of those being a few years outdated. Then Dahlin at the high end. With a watch towards Seider's situation in Detroit.
 
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Take advantage of the Isles cap situation and go get Nelson or Pageau for dirt cheap.


Nelson would be great here. Pageau is a 3C sort more then a 2C but he's also so strong defensively that I'd still take him.
 
Dahlin absolutely will be discussed... any of the recent bridge deals for young top 4D will be tossed around. So you have Werenski, Serg, and McAvoy (probably the player most comparable) around 5m as the low end with most of those being a few years outdated. Then Dahlin at the high end. With a watch towards Seider's situation in Detroit.
I guess we will see, I think Byram’s camp will try pointing to others but the Avs will just keep pointing to Sergachev as it is a such an iron clad comparable where players like Dahlin have taken such drastically different paths that making comparisons will be too difficult. A guy like Weresnki is the same, such different circumstances that any proficient debater would be able to quickly shut the comparison down.

A lot will depend on when he signs and how much risk he is willing to take.
 
I guess we will see, I think Byram’s camp will try pointing to others but the Avs will just keep pointing to Sergachev as it is a such an iron clad comparable where players like Dahlin have taken such drastically different paths that making comparisons will be too difficult. A guy like Weresnki is the same, such different circumstances that any proficient debater would be able to quickly shut the comparison down.

A lot will depend on when he signs and how much risk he is willing to take.
Even if you have a direct, 100% comparable... that doesn't mean the exact same contract will be signed.
 
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