Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

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It's two years to sign a CHL guy. One of those years unfortunately was the bad COVID year and Vierling didn't play anywhere. Then last season he did play and was really mediocre. I watched a lot of him and he didn't show much. I mean at times you could see why we liked him but most of the time he was just another guy out there. I thought it was 50-50 they'd give him a contract; they evidently didn't like him enough to offer one. Now he's having a very good season statistically, but he's an overage player so it's not really surprising. There's another overage player on his team that's also doing really well. I think at this point the likelihood is that he gets an AHL or ECHL deal at the end of the year. I'd be surprised if he received an ELC from anyone else.
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JD (now back w CBJ) was w NYR when Vierling drafted
Last summer, CBJ had Vierling at both dev and rookie/training camps
Could easily be the org that signs him to a pro deal, even if not NHL ELC


 
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It's two years to sign a CHL guy. One of those years unfortunately was the bad COVID year and Vierling didn't play anywhere. Then last season he did play and was really mediocre. I watched a lot of him and he didn't show much. I mean at times you could see why we liked him but most of the time he was just another guy out there. I thought it was 50-50 they'd give him a contract; they evidently didn't like him enough to offer one. Now he's having a very good season statistically, but he's an overage player so it's not really surprising. There's another overage player on his team that's also doing really well. I think at this point the likelihood is that he gets an AHL or ECHL deal at the end of the year. I'd be surprised if he received an ELC from anyone else.
I think he was in CLB on a PTO but unsurprisingly got cut.
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The cap is going to go up and when it does it should be a fairly substantial increase. As far as how Chytil has elevated his game he'll certainly get a raise but he's probably in the neighborhood of $3.5 to $4 with his next deal.

Neither Kakko or Lafreniere are in a place where I'd think of locking them up yet. Miller is the biggest possibility for that.
I don't see any deal for Chytil starting with $3.x unless we're talking one-year only.
 

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In preparation for the semi annual prospect ranking I looked at how our CHL forwards were doing in comparison to others in their leagues.

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Korczak -- 7th in PPG
Grubbe --28th in points, 43 in PPG

QMJHL

Barbashev -- 46th in points, 56 in PPG

OHL
McConnell-Barker -- 12th in points, 26 in PPG
Othmann -- 17th in PPG, 44th in points

BMB and Barbashev in D+1, others are D+2 with Grubbe having missed a year.
 

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In preparation for the semi annual prospect ranking I looked at how our CHL forwards were doing in comparison to others in their leagues.

WHL

Korczak -- 7th in PPG
Grubbe --28th in points, 43 in PPG

QMJHL

Barbashev -- 46th in points, 56 in PPG

OHL
McConnell-Barker -- 12th in points, 26 in PPG
Othmann -- 17th in PPG, 44th in points

BMB and Barbashev in D+1, others are D+2 with Grubbe having missed a year.
In PPG did you try to limit to skaters with a certain minimum number of games (like somewhere between 50%-75% of total possible)?
 

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No points for either BMB or Othmann. Othmann has just 11 points in 11 games with Peterborough.
Busts.

In all seriousness though, this is good for Othmann. A little character building if you will. He obviously has the skill and the snarl for the NHL level, but does he have it between the ears? Little resiliency never hurt. Plus its still a PPG haha
 

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Busts.

In all seriousness though, this is good for Othmann. A little character building if you will. He obviously has the skill and the snarl for the NHL level, but does he have it between the ears? Little resiliency never hurt. Plus its still a PPG haha
Yeah. When a slump is PPG you count your blessings. Hahaha.
 
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Yeah. When a slump is PPG you count your blessings. Hahaha.
His shot generation remains high so this could be just a case of puck luck scoring goals (assists ratio is about the same). Now I (we?) don’t have info about scoring chances breakdown so without watching got to assume that it’s about the same too. Nothing to worry.
 

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His shot generation remains high so this could be just a case of puck luck scoring goals (assists ratio is about the same). Now I (we?) don’t have info about scoring chances breakdown so without watching got to assume that it’s about the same too. Nothing to worry.
His shot generation is high. Ranks 11 in the OHL, (Bryce M-B is 6th), but Othmann has played fewer games, 7-12 for everyone ahead of him except Sasha Pastujov. Othmann is almost at 5 SPG while Ty Nelson, who leads the league in shots, is averaging 5.25 SPG. The OHL stats don't show average shots per game but looking at the numbers it is clear that he is the top five in shots per game. His shooting percentage is 10%. Bryce M-B is at 14% and Pastujov is 16%. Last year Othmann's shooting % was 17%. He's averaging a half a shot more per game this year. It's the shooting percentage that is the difference in his scoring this year.
 
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He had 11 goals on 83 shots in 16 games with Flint. 13.3% shooting on 5.19 shots per game.

He has 2 goals on 51 shots in 11 games with Peterborough. 3.9% shooting on 4.64 shots per game.
 
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