2022-2023 Laval Rocket

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WinterLion

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The thing is that Hughes and Gorton have been preaching development and seem committed to this... so why stick with Houle unless they like him?

Also in the last 10 games or so Ylonen, Barron, Simoneau and RHP (the 4 most important skaters?) have been doing very well... definitely been a tough year for Mysak but he is quite young for that league.

When I have watched them I was impressed with the fact that the young guys seem to play bigger roles than in the past... but the results aren't there for sure.

Good question!
 
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Leon Lucius Black

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They have many solid AHL veterans in Richard, Schunenman, Bowey, Stephens, Leskinen, Bourque, Martel, Poulin, Belzile etc.

They also have some quality young talent in RHP, Ylonen, Barron, Norlinder and Simoneau.

There is zero reason for the team to be struggling this badly.
 
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Vachon23

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An other thing, before Scott Mellanby was the GM of the Rocket but now with the new management who is the responsable of managing the Rocket ?
 

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The thing is that Hughes and Gorton have been preaching development and seem committed to this... so why stick with Houle unless they like him?

Also in the last 10 games or so Ylonen, Barron, Simoneau and RHP (the 4 most important skaters?) have been doing very well... definitely been a tough year for Mysak but he is quite young for that league.

When I have watched them I was impressed with the fact that the young guys seem to play bigger roles than in the past... but the results aren't there for sure.

Good question!
IMO, I think Houle won’t last the season.

They have many solid AHL veterans in Richard, Schunenman, Bowey, Stephens, Leskinen, Bourque, Martel, Poulin, Belzile etc.

They also have some quality young talent in RHP, Ylonen, Barron, Norlinder and Simoneau.

There is zero reason for the team to be struggling this badly.
Defensively they’re not as strong as last season. I think the defence hid some of the deficiencies of both Poulin and Primeau and this year, it’s showing.
 
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(Checking out the roster - I haven’t followed the farm since PK was in Hamilton and Caufield’s hit and run)

I can’t say I believe anyone on that roster risks making the habs a better team some day anyway or even make the team so it does not matter much.

Is specifically Barron regressing?

org seems to like keeping the good prospects in jr, university or the club. I don’t know if it is all related, if it feeds itself (the more promising players are not with the Rocket) or if the AHL is just where players not good enough for the nhl end up.
 

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Like most here, I think coaching is the issue.

But the most important pieces in Laval are doing well, especially lately. So while I hate seeing the team struggle (as someone who follows Laval for years), I keep most of my focus on the prospects who can maybe some day move up to the NHL and stay there.

- Ylonen is on pace for a career year with 57 pts in 72 GP. He has 10 pts in his last 11 games.
- RHP is not on pace for a more productive year as last year. But he's on a 3-game point streak, and has 9 pts in his last 11 games.
- Simoneau is currently 3rd in scoring among rookies in the league. He's on pace for 58 pts in 71 GP.
- Barron is on pace for a career year with 38 pts in 71 GP. He's also on pace for 19 goals.

The above are 4 of the team's top-6 in scoring.

- Beaudin has 3 pts with the Rocket, but those 3 pts came in his last 5 games.

- Norlinder might not be producing, but you still can see what he can offer. But this also gives me a chance to say that him going back to Sweden last year might not have benefited him in the sense that he could have stayed in Laval last year and adapt to NA hockey. And now, he'd be a year ahead in that side of his development.

- Mysak, I see an NHL'er in him. But JF Houle placed a ceiling on him before the season even started. So unfortunately for Lick's brother, it doesn't seem like his coach will give him meaningful playing time.


All of these guys will be depth players if they do make the NHL. But that shouldn't discourage anyone because among the prospects who are in the pros, the top ones are already in the NHL (Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Harris & Xhekaj).
 

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The Rocket is a very young team. AHL is not an easy league for young guys.

Fans going on the Sly and Houle aggression targets again. Our Laval team is just not that good and lacks talent. The talent we do have lacks good vets for them to play with.

Do I like Sly our Houle? Not really but why do we always go on attack?
 
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They have many solid AHL veterans in Richard, Schunenman, Bowey, Stephens, Leskinen, Bourque, Martel, Poulin, Belzile etc.

They also have some quality young talent in RHP, Ylonen, Barron, Norlinder and Simoneau.

There is zero reason for the team to be struggling this badly.
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Harry Kakalovich

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A bit surprised at how bad Laval is this year?
They did lose some decent vets but the D group looks strong and with Richard and Simoneau added to the offense you would think they would be at least as competitive as last year.

Question- why has Laval regressed so much and why are there rarely any AHL prospects that pan put?
I looked at the stats a while back and the Baby Habs were scoring about as much as the top teams but letting in WAY more goals than them. So I would say probably team defense is a problem and probably also goaltending.
 

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Fans going on the Slaf and Houle aggression targets again. Our Laval team is just not that good and lacks talent. The talent we do have lacks good vets for them to play with.

Do I like Slaf our Houle? Not really but why do we always go on attack?

Last year team lacked talent and went far in the playoffs.

This year team shouldn't be as bad as they are.
 
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I looked at the stats a while back and the Baby Habs were scoring about as much as the top teams but letting in WAY more goals than them. So I would say probably team defense is a problem and probably also goaltending.
So many players that Houle has had to rotate which has caused chemistry issues.
Also, both goalies have not been very good.

I also think they miss Ouellette and Belpedio, 2 really good AHL Dmen and also excellent leaders.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Last year team lacked talent and went far in the playoffs.

This year team shouldn't be as bad as they are.

Houle was coach last year too right? I think we had better pieces last year in Laval. Team should not be as bad and I agree with that but what I don't agree with is attacking people when times are rough.
 
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People keep talking about Houle and I'm sure he's part of the problem but let's be honest, the reason why the team sucks is because of the lack of talent on the team. All the good players are already in Montréal, in a normal year they would've had Slaflovsky, Guhle, Harris and Xhekaj having the time of their life but circumstances made it otherwise.

Ylonen, RHP, Mysak and Richard are fine but they're not top players.
Losing Ouellet and Belpidio really hurt a lot. Bowey does nothing.
 

Vachon23

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He was promoted last year.
Yes, he’s governor for Laval but we need someone in charge of player personnel in Laval and we don’t have anyone since Mellanby is gone. Sedgwick had a promotion in the NHL, but he was always VP of Hockey ops in Laval even when Bergevin and Mellanby where still here
 

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Xhekaj and Fairbrobro were supposed to bring some grit but one is with the Habs and the other on LTIR.

Bowey,Barron, Leskinen, Norlinder are too soft imo
 
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LaP

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The Rocket is a very young team. AHL is not an easy league for young guys.
It actually is not.

They have only 4 players 20-21 years old (only 3 are regular). They have two players over 30. Most of the players are in their prime 23-28. Almost all our prospects atm are either in junior, europe or in the nhl already. The Rocket is filled with experienced guys like Leskinen, Pitlick, Bowey, Stephens ...

Calgary has a younger AHL team. They have 7 players 20-21 and six of then are playing a significant role. They6 have only 1 players over 30. A bunch of guys 22 too. Their AHL team is 13-6-1.
 
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