2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[ChicagoBlues]

If we can pick up 2 1st round picks and a extra 2nd I'd consider that a good deadline. This is a good draft and there are about 13-14 prospects I'd be really excited to pick. The higher we pick the better but hopefully we can snag a spot in the top 12 or so picks.

Yes, and then move up in the draft. Several members here, I included, have mentioned in the last couple weeks using the multiple 1st-round picks that we will presuamably acquire at the TDL to move up in the draft. Apparently, this draft is purdy gerd.

 

[542365]

JR says on the radio that Binnington has been the teams MVP this year. I’d have to agree. He is definitely the biggest reason we have a chance at winning the lottery.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

JR says on the radio that Binnington has been the teams MVP this year. I’d have to agree. He is definitely the biggest reason we have a chance at winning the lottery.

if JR was on here he'd be viewed as a troll. guy has no clue.

 

[542365]

if JR was on here he'd be viewed as a troll. guy has no clue.

It just makes no sense. I disagree with people who say Binner is fine and would be good behind a good defense, but at least I can wrap my head around where they’re coming from because we’ve seen him play well in the (distant) past behind good defense. The team’s MVP though?! Come on. More valuable than Thomas? Kyrou? Buch? Hell, even Faulk in what is an admittedly poor year by his standards? That’s just nonsense. Has no basis in logic.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

It just makes no sense. I disagree with people who say Binner is fine and would be good behind a good defense, but at least I can wrap my head around where they’re coming from because we’ve seen him play well in the (distant) past behind good defense. The team’s MVP though?! Come on. More valuable than Thomas? Kyrou? Buch? Hell, even Faulk in what is an admittedly poor year by his standards? That’s just nonsense. Has no basis in logic.

it's like he reasons that if we had no goalie we would allow 20 goals a game, so guy who prevents that is most valuable guy on team.

 

[Brian39]

I think Binner was the team's MVP until about Thanksgiving. He had some amazing performances in that stretch and just a couple clunkers. We were 9-5 in his first 14 games (while Greiss was just 1-3 in his 4 games). I think he was better than his .912 suggested and he absolutely stole some points in that stretch. 2 or fewer goals allowed in 8 of 14 games and only 3 games allowing 4+.

And while he was playing so well, we had a number of guys that were majorly underperforming. Through these 18 games, our leading goal scorer had 6 goals and our leading points getter had 16 points. Buch and Saad had both missed 5+ games and it showed in the team's defense. We sat 24th in goals per game, so getting 18 of a possible 28 points with him in net was a huge success.

If this radio hit was over Thanksgiving, then I'd agree with JR.

But since then Binner hasn't been nearly as good. He hasn't stolen as many games and he's had more clunkers. I haven't hated his game and I think that he's been much better than the numbers suggest. But the numbers are awful. He's allowed 2 or fewer goals in just 3 of 18 games and he's had 10 games allowing 4+ goals. He has an .876 SV% in this stretch and the team is 7-8-3 in his games. I wouldn't describe him as our biggest problem in this stretch but he hasn't been part of a solution in this stretch.

Meanwhile, Thomas, Kyrou and Buch have been excellent. The team as a whole has started scoring. 14th in goals per game since those first 18 games. Kyrou has 14 goals and 28 points in 22 games. Buch has 10 goals and 24 points in 21 games. Saad has 10 goals in 24 games and Thomas has 23 points in 24 games. The games we're winning are the games where we are scoring a lot of goals. This stretch of games now comprises 58% of the season.

I'd still put Binner toward the top of the list for team MVP at the 43 game mark. He was by far the team's best player for the first 42% of our games and that counts for a lot. But what Thomas, Buch and Kyrou have been doing since a rough first few weeks is more impactful.

 

[rumrokh]

I think Binner was the team's MVP until about Thanksgiving.

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But since then Binner hasn't been nearly as good.

This passes my eye-test. Even in games where he hasn't been at fault for the goals, there have been several lately, sometimes a few in a row, in which I didn't see him make any non-routine saves. You can't blame a goalie for letting up a goal on a great chance, but in aggregate, even average goalies make some of those saves.

I think he's still been good overall, but if he was playing like he did earlier in the year, it would've been the difference between a loss and a win.

 

[Xerloris]

if JR was on here he'd be viewed as a troll. guy has no clue.

Rutherfords name should be mentioned with the same disdain as Eklund.

It just makes no sense. I disagree with people who say Binner is fine and would be good behind a good defense, but at least I can wrap my head around where they’re coming from because we’ve seen him play well in the (distant) past behind good defense. The team’s MVP though?! Come on. More valuable than Thomas? Kyrou? Buch? Hell, even Faulk in what is an admittedly poor year by his standards? That’s just nonsense. Has no basis in logic.

Our team sucks ass so there is no mvp period but the player that has performed and given the team a chance to win most games? Binnington.

 

[542365]

If we had an average NHL goaltender who stopped the expected number of goals, we would’ve allowed 6 fewer goals on the year. Anyone who has performed worse than league average at their position does not deserve any sort of consideration for team MVP. Playing a critical position poorly does not make someone a valuable player.

 

[Xerloris]

If we had an average NHL goaltender who stopped the expected number of goals, we would’ve allowed 6 fewer goals on the year. Anyone who has performed worse than league average at their position does not deserve any sort of consideration for team MVP. Playing a critical position poorly does not make someone a valuable player.

When the team performs up to average than I'll care what our goalies do. Until then it doesn't matter.

 

[Reality Czech]

if JR was on here he'd be viewed as a troll. guy has no clue.

A lot of people on this forum have no clue either. I dunno if Binner has been our MVP but he's clearly been a top 5 player for this team. I know it's easy to look at his numbers and simply conclude he's been bad, but how many times has the team left him out to dry? 10 fewer goals allowed puts his save % over 90%, which would be top 20 in the league, 15 fewer goals puts him at .908.

According to naturalstattrick.com the Blues have given up the 2nd most high danger chances in the league, and 4th most high danger goals against. If you combine that with the fact that our PK% is 6th worst in the league, I don't think it's a stretch to say that if our team defense had been better all season that he would have at least 10 fewer goals allowed. It doesn't take much to tank a goalie's numbers when the team keeps giving up so many high-danger scoring chances.

Team Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

 

[Majorityof1]

3 games past the half way mark. Let's take a look at where we stand....

For team playoffs: We are outside the playoffs, but tied for the next team in with Colorado by points. We are 6 points behind both teams currently sitting in the Wild Card. However, we have more games played than Colorado, Minnesota, or Calgary. By point capture percentage we are the 3rd team out of the wild card spot behind the 2 WC teams, Colorado and Nashville.

For team tank we are currently tied for 13th worst by points. By point capture we are 11th worst but within striking distance of top 8.

Basically, our Jekyll and hyde, which team do we get .500 with some loser points BS has hurt us. Whichever side of the fence you sit on, it sucks ass. Welcome to being a Blues fan.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Not that it's anything spectacular, but Neighbours has 5 points in his last 8, 4 in last 5. Confidence from the minors and injuries forcing him to step up has definitely helped him a bit. Hopefully he can have a solid 2nd half to build a solid foundation for starting next season.

 

[BrokenFace]

Not that it's anything spectacular, but Neighbours has 5 points in his last 8, 4 in last 5. Confidence from the minors and injuries forcing him to step up has definitely helped him a bit. Hopefully he can have a solid 2nd half to build a solid foundation for starting next season.

With how crappy the season has been I think Blues hf has kinda forgotten about Neighbours. Whether you're on team tank or team playoffs, we should all be rooting for his development. Another late round 1st rounder turning into a legit NHLer is also encouraging if we have a couple more late 1sts this year.

 

[PocketNines]

Neighbours looked somewhat overmatched by the NHL early this year. On the other hand, I think he has intangibles internally that make him focus on what he needs to focus on to improve, compared with some other players. He seems like an all-around hockey kid who gets it, but he needs to figure out how he'll contribute in the NHL. I think he will have a more Barbashevish route up through the grinding lines into becoming that versatile 8th/9th forward who knows how the game should be played.

 

[Brian39]

Neighbours had a really nice game last night and definitely deserved the 1st star. He very much looked like an NHLer, he had several nice plays and the fight was fantastic. I view him as the most expendable of the 3 recent 1st rounders because I think he has the lowest ceiling. But I'm not at all eager to move him and it looks like the recent AHL stint was great for his development.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I went back and watched some old 2007-2009 Oilers games, and you'd be completely shocked what I seen. Leaving players open in the slot, poor passing, lack of a defensive scheme, players running around without any real direction. Sound familiar at all?

Video for example.

 

[Celtic Note]

I went back and watched some old 2007-2009 Oilers games, and you'd be completely shocked what I seen. Leaving players open in the slot, poor passing, lack of a defensive scheme, players running around without any real direction. Sound familiar at all?

Video for example.

Oooh I will play along. What’s the common denominator between them and us?

I could never guess.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Oooh I will play along. What’s the common denominator between them and us?

I could never guess.

Love the sarcasm.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Oooh I will play along. What’s the common denominator between them and us?

I could never guess.

But, I am gonna beat the dead horse. Going from Monty to MacTavish is like going from Vladi to Rattie.

 

[Celtic Note]

But, I am gonna beat the dead horse. Going from Monty to MacTavish is like going from Vladi to Rattie.

I am not sure why the love affair with failed Oiler experiments.

Yakupov, Chirelli, MPS, MacT….

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I am not sure why the love affair with failed Oiler experiments.

Yakupov, Chirelli, MPS, MacT….

The only Oiler-Blues trade I can remember working out is when we got Doug Weight

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I was OK with Paajarvi. He was a decent hockey player even if he never lived up to his draft expectations.

I think the absence of Montgomery is a lot more significant than the addition of McTavish, even if MacTavish is a buffoon.

 

[Xerloris]

Pretty sure the real issue is that Chief is a players coach and not a x's and o's coach and has no idea how to fix shit.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Pretty sure the real issue is that Chief is a players coach and not a x's and o's coach and has no idea how to fix shit.

Would be fine if we had x and o guy still on staff.