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Brockon

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Oh look what a shock the Blues and their promotions for the charities are totally corrupt. You're saying the highly conservative team that mandates guns on the ice for the anthem but boycotts out group nights is riven through with cynicism when it comes to charities? Say it ain't so.


What a grubby little franchise. There were three games at the end of the season I could have watched and just chose to ignore them, and I don't remember ever doing that.
That's your utility company billing customers and then donating to the Blues charity for a tax write off and good publicity if you bothered to read the article (I read the first bit and then skimmed a bit more).

Ameren doing shady shit shouldn't reflect on the Blues charity, unless the Blues don't donate the funds received to to whatever effort they're pledged to as.
 

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After watching last nights games.. goal tending was atrocious! There has to be a market next year for Binnington, absolutely a beast come playoffs and unfortunately the Blues are a couple of years away.
 

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Listening to the players' interviews, especially Faulks, and the comment about players caring more about themselves than others on the team etc. Could it be the Tarasanko situation that infected the group? Or is it more the younger guys like Kyrou? Find it interesting. I think the decison not to sign Perron effected the group a lot as well
 

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Listening to the players' interviews, especially Faulks, and the comment about players caring more about themselves than others on the team etc. Could it be the Tarasanko situation that infected the group? Or is it more the younger guys like Kyrou? Find it interesting. I think the decison not to sign Perron effected the group a lot as well

Considering as soon as Vladi was gone the team looked so much better, I would imagine his whole situation was a locker room cancer.
 

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And part of that I understand and is normal. If you don't have a future here, it's hard to maintain the focus and drive that you need to succeed as a team. Part of it I think was with individuals with expiring contracts and potential trades, and another with players dealing with personal struggles with their play.
 
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And part of that I understand and is normal. If you don't have a future here, it's hard to maintain the focus and drive that you need to succeed as a team. Part of it I think was with individuals with expiring contracts and potential trades, and another with players dealing with personal struggles with their play.
the difference from good to bad is real slim, it doesn't take much change in focus to go from one to the other
 
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I didn't state what part of this I blame the Blues for ... but my radar has – correctly – been on high alert about the sick kids since Day One. People know that I have been repeating my skepticism about the sick kids program for over a year now. It reeks and has reeked. My problem with the Blues and their associated charities is a generalized reaction to the charities they pick and their employees continually cite on air. I believe the people in this franchise wouldn't do any charity work if there weren't PR and tax benefits which is all they care about. It's a franchise that wants guns on the ice and also lets its players morally side with Russian thugs. That's where its heart really is, that and golf.

For example, of all the things in all the world that need financial support, flying Korean War vets to DC to see a memorial is somewhat obscene. Why not just light the money on fire instead? Whether war veterans have had a chance to personally be in the presence of symbolism so that they can experience Meaning is somewhere near the absolute bottom of humanity's needs, and should be a charity chosen once 99.99% of the world's current problems have been solved, but somehow the Blues manage to brag on their radio broadcasts about how they fund this important charity. I'm surprised Darren Pang hasn't started a charity where kids from nice families get to watch more golf and that isn't one of the official Blues charities.

Unrelatedly, on this website the left hand 1/5 of the screen is covered by an invisible technical glitch. The first eight letters of the word 'unrelatedly' I cannot scroll back to. The cursor changes from regular to the hand with the pointing finger as if it is over something to click. If I click on an area on that side of the screen a whole new ad tab pops up. The 4/5 of the right side are fine; the left 1/5 contains text that can no longer be manipulated or edited.
 

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I didn't state what part of this I blame the Blues for ... but my radar has – correctly – been on high alert about the sick kids since Day One. People know that I have been repeating my skepticism about the sick kids program for over a year now. It reeks and has reeked. My problem with the Blues and their associated charities is a generalized reaction to the charities they pick and their employees continually cite on air. I believe the people in this franchise wouldn't do any charity work if there weren't PR and tax benefits which is all they care about. It's a franchise that wants guns on the ice and also lets its players morally side with Russian thugs. That's where its heart really is, that and golf.

For example, of all the things in all the world that need financial support, flying Korean War vets to DC to see a memorial is somewhat obscene. Why not just light the money on fire instead? Whether war veterans have had a chance to personally be in the presence of symbolism so that they can experience Meaning is somewhere near the absolute bottom of humanity's needs, and should be a charity chosen once 99.99% of the world's current problems have been solved, but somehow the Blues manage to brag on their radio broadcasts about how they fund this important charity. I'm surprised Darren Pang hasn't started a charity where kids from nice families get to watch more golf and that isn't one of the official Blues charities.

Unrelatedly, on this website the left hand 1/5 of the screen is covered by an invisible technical glitch. The first eight letters of the word 'unrelatedly' I cannot scroll back to. The cursor changes from regular to the hand with the pointing finger as if it is over something to click. If I click on an area on that side of the screen a whole new ad tab pops up. The 4/5 of the right side are fine; the left 1/5 contains text that can no longer be manipulated or edited.

I think the idea that a sports franchise would have some type of moral compass is a little far fetched.
 

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So I was just playing around with capfriendly and I know Army has said the Blues won't be BIG players in Free Agency. However, if we could find some way to move out some contracts on the left side (ideallyKrug) of the defense how would you all feel about trying to sign Ryan Graves? I think he would be a ideal partner for Parayko in a shutdown role and wouldn't cost that much.

Graves - Parayko
Leddy - Faulk
Scandella - Bortuzzo
Perunovich, Rosen, Kessel, Tucker as depth?
 

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So I was just playing around with capfriendly and I know Army has said the Blues won't be BIG players in Free Agency. However, if we could find some way to move out some contracts on the left side (ideallyKrug) of the defense how would you all feel about trying to sign Ryan Graves? I think he would be a ideal partner for Parayko in a shutdown role and wouldn't cost that much.

Graves - Parayko
Leddy - Faulk
Scandella - Bortuzzo
Perunovich, Rosen, Kessel, Tucker as depth?
Define not that much? Do you think he would cost more or less than Leddy?
 

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Define not that much? Do you think he would cost more or less than Leddy?

I could see him getting a little more on the open market. He is currently getting 3,166,667 aav but I could see him landing somewhere around the low to mid 4 million mark after a pretty successful year as top4 shutdown guy for New Jersey. Again it would be contingent on moving someone out from the left side.
 
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I could see him getting a little more on the open market. He is currently getting 3,166,667 aav but I could see him landing somewhere around the low to mid 4 million mark after a pretty successful year as top4 shutdown guy for New Jersey. Again it would be contingent on moving someone out from the left side.
He is good player. I would do up to about 4.5x4 for him if we move Krug.
 
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I didn't state what part of this I blame the Blues for ... but my radar has – correctly – been on high alert about the sick kids since Day One. People know that I have been repeating my skepticism about the sick kids program for over a year now. It reeks and has reeked. My problem with the Blues and their associated charities is a generalized reaction to the charities they pick and their employees continually cite on air. I believe the people in this franchise wouldn't do any charity work if there weren't PR and tax benefits which is all they care about. It's a franchise that wants guns on the ice and also lets its players morally side with Russian thugs. That's where its heart really is, that and golf.

For example, of all the things in all the world that need financial support, flying Korean War vets to DC to see a memorial is somewhat obscene. Why not just light the money on fire instead? Whether war veterans have had a chance to personally be in the presence of symbolism so that they can experience Meaning is somewhere near the absolute bottom of humanity's needs, and should be a charity chosen once 99.99% of the world's current problems have been solved, but somehow the Blues manage to brag on their radio broadcasts about how they fund this important charity. I'm surprised Darren Pang hasn't started a charity where kids from nice families get to watch more golf and that isn't one of the official Blues charities.

Unrelatedly, on this website the left hand 1/5 of the screen is covered by an invisible technical glitch. The first eight letters of the word 'unrelatedly' I cannot scroll back to. The cursor changes from regular to the hand with the pointing finger as if it is over something to click. If I click on an area on that side of the screen a whole new ad tab pops up. The 4/5 of the right side are fine; the left 1/5 contains text that can no longer be manipulated or edited.
It’s not the Clinton Foundation, but I agree that more money should get to the actual charity target. The Blues choose their charitable partners. They DO deserve some scrutiny for that.

But allowing elderly guys who were drafted to go fight in Korea to go to DC to honor their fallen buddies in person at the Memorial seems pretty humane to me. I‘ve visited the Memorial and witnessed some of those moments in person. It was moving.

I also don’t get the outrage for first responders (including the armed ones) and military personnel being ‘on the ice’. Should we pretend they don’t carry weapons at their day jobs? Those folks do dangerous work to try and make life better/safer for the rest of us. Others could be honored instead, but why the fixation on the “guns”?
 

Xerloris

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I also don’t get the outrage for first responders (including the armed ones) and military personnel being ‘on the ice’. Should we pretend they don’t carry weapons at their day jobs? Those folks do dangerous work to try and make life better/safer for the rest of us. Others could be honored instead, but why the fixation on the “guns”?

Cus guns are scary murder monsters don't you know? They just randomly murder people and everytime someone sees a gun they have a chance to die because it has nothing to do with the mentally ill f***wad pulling the trigger. It's like blaming cars for drunk drivers killing people. No one has to take responsibility for their own actions anymore.
 

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Lmao at this clueless organization calling out its best player. Apparently creating by far the most offense on the team is not “winning hockey”. Kyrou is going to dump the puck in every shift next year, put up 40 points, but “try real hard” and people will wonder why we can’t score goals.
 

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Lmao at this clueless organization calling out its best player. Apparently creating by far the most offense on the team is not “winning hockey”. Kyrou is going to dump the puck in every shift next year, put up 40 points, but “try real hard” and people will wonder why we can’t score goals.
You can say some criticism of Kyrou is unfair, but it's laughable to say he's the best player. By basically any metric Buchnevich is our best overall player. And if at any point, if Kyrou is our best player, we are screwed. We'd be in the days when Hull and Tarasenko were our best player, which means pretender status. How many contenders have that player type as their best player? None.
 

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Lmao at this clueless organization calling out its best player. Apparently creating by far the most offense on the team is not “winning hockey”. Kyrou is going to dump the puck in every shift next year, put up 40 points, but “try real hard” and people will wonder why we can’t score goals.
I’m going to ignore the part where you referred to Kyrou as our best player and instead focus on the notion that he has to dump the puck in every shift and only put up 40 pts to be a good two-way player. He doesn’t really need to sacrifice his offense to improve his defense.

If he stops puck watching and allowing wide open opponents and wide open lanes, then that will greatly improve his D-zone play. How does doing that negatively impact his scoring? It doesn’t! If anything, providing better team defense should allow for the Blues to gain possession of the puck faster and more often, thus they can then go on offense, with Kyrou on the ice.

If he’d stop forcing risky plays with no support, particularly at the blue line, that would greatly reduce his turnovers and odd-man breaks going the other way. There are times when making the safe play, and yes, sometimes that includes a dump-in, is the right move to prevent a really bad turnover. And Kyrou is one of the speediest players in the league. He should be able to be one of the best in the league at chipping it off the boards, going around the d-man and regaining possession. Or have one of the other forwards chip it to his corner and he uses his speed to get to it first.

Him playing less high-risk hockey really shouldn’t hurt his offense. He absolutely has the tools to do it. That’s why it’s so frustrating watching him continually make the same gaffs again and again and then the puck ends up in the back of our net.
 

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I didn't state what part of this I blame the Blues for ... but my radar has – correctly – been on high alert about the sick kids since Day One. People know that I have been repeating my skepticism about the sick kids program for over a year now. It reeks and has reeked. My problem with the Blues and their associated charities is a generalized reaction to the charities they pick and their employees continually cite on air. I believe the people in this franchise wouldn't do any charity work if there weren't PR and tax benefits which is all they care about. It's a franchise that wants guns on the ice and also lets its players morally side with Russian thugs. That's where its heart really is, that and golf.

For example, of all the things in all the world that need financial support, flying Korean War vets to DC to see a memorial is somewhat obscene. Why not just light the money on fire instead? Whether war veterans have had a chance to personally be in the presence of symbolism so that they can experience Meaning is somewhere near the absolute bottom of humanity's needs, and should be a charity chosen once 99.99% of the world's current problems have been solved, but somehow the Blues manage to brag on their radio broadcasts about how they fund this important charity. I'm surprised Darren Pang hasn't started a charity where kids from nice families get to watch more golf and that isn't one of the official Blues charities.


The first is flat out garbage. Tarasenko flew that young lady with Cancer all over during our cup run and had her attend all of the games. There are more then a few kids who have come to games and have had players visit them in the hospital WHO ARE YOU to judge their motives?

As for flying vets..... wow. If you hate this team so much and don't like what they stand for or who they supports, find a different one whose morals align better align with your own.
 

Xerloris

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The first is flat out garbage. Tarasenko flew that young lady with Cancer all over during our cup run and had her attend all of the games. There are more then a few kids who have come to games and have had players visit them in the hospital WHO ARE YOU to judge their motives?

As for flying vets..... wow. If you hate this team so much and don't like what they stand for or who they supports, find a different one whose morals align better align with your own.

Just to nitpick, the young girl you're referring to was Ari, she died the year before our cup run and the girl we had with us during the cup run was Laila. Other than that I support your post!
 
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The first is flat out garbage. Tarasenko flew that young lady with Cancer all over during our cup run and had her attend all of the games. There are more then a few kids who have come to games and have had players visit them in the hospital WHO ARE YOU to judge their motives?

As for flying vets..... wow. If you hate this team so much and don't like what they stand for or who they supports, find a different one whose morals align better align with your own.
Obviously, he is not a vet! Wish there was a mandatory service requirement for all [we would probably be in a better frame of mind than we are now]. No discipline and no respect all around these days and not gettering any better. I was proud to serve and sacrifice a few years for my country. The only reason we are where we area as a country is because of our veterans and those who continue stand guard today.
 

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The first is flat out garbage. Tarasenko flew that young lady with Cancer all over during our cup run and had her attend all of the games. There are more then a few kids who have come to games and have had players visit them in the hospital WHO ARE YOU to judge their motives?

As for flying vets..... wow. If you hate this team so much and don't like what they stand for or who they supports, find a different one whose morals align better align with your own.
I'm obviously not talking about individuals deciding individually what they will do, I am talking about the official charities that are cited all season in return for advertising. I knew someone would confuse the two things in their mind and scream at me to leave, and it's no surprise whatsoever that it's you.
 

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You can say some criticism of Kyrou is unfair, but it's laughable to say he's the best player. By basically any metric Buchnevich is our best overall player. And if at any point, if Kyrou is our best player, we are screwed. We'd be in the days when Hull and Tarasenko were our best player, which means pretender status. How many contenders have that player type as their best player? None.
Who the f*** said we’re contenders? We’re not even in the playoffs. I don’t want Kyrou to be our best player, but currently he is our top scoring threat. I’ll give you that Buch is the better overall player, but if we need a goal he is the one most likely to make that happen. Telling him he’s playing like he’s in junior while he’s put up back to back 70+ point campaigns is moronic. We’re going to have a team full of “hard workers”(as if carrying the team offensively is not hard work) and never score any goals. Sweet, we’ll be like the Islanders if they didn’t have Sorokin. That’s quite a competitive team.
 
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