2022-2023 Around The League

[The Abusement Park]

Not crazy about what OTT is doing tbh.

B. Tkachuk $8.205m, J. Norris $7.95m, Stuztle $8.35mil, Chabot $8.0mil, and DeBrincat needs an extension next season too, and he'll prob make $9-9.5mil

That's going to be half of their cap tied up in 5 players, and they haven't even made the playoffs yet. Huge gamble.

I mean if they’re making the playoffs it’s going to be on the back of those 5 guys no matter what. Get some cost certainty in with those guys and they’re going to sink or swim. They’ve got all the big pieces filled outside 1G I guess filled in 1C, 2C, most likely 3C, 1D, good chance they have 2 1D’s, very good wingers.

It’s all going to come down to how the org fills out the depth spots they need on D and the forward core. They have a lot of the major pieces filled so over the next few years they should work there way up to a playoff team over the next couple years.

 

[Ceremony]

Good to see the 2023 Stanley Cup Champion Ottawa Senators locking in one of their young stars to such a great contract. Dorion does it again!

 

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Not crazy about what OTT is doing tbh.

B. Tkachuk $8.205m, J. Norris $7.95m, Stuztle $8.35mil, Chabot $8.0mil, and DeBrincat needs an extension next season too, and he'll prob make $9-9.5mil

That's going to be half of their cap tied up in 5 players, and they haven't even made the playoffs yet. Huge gamble.

Locking in with term so the last 5-6 years of those deals are steals and they then (as the cap finally grows) have cap room to add. There is a risk to it, but I think all those contracts end up very good for them. Could be brilliant if there is cap growth in 24-25.

 

[Bender]

Unpopular opinion, I think they'd beat the Avs (as currently constructed) in a seven game series.

A lot of that depends on Georgiev. If he's even just 'good' I think we'd kick their butts.

Gotta get through Edmonton first! (Markstrom joke)

To me, Calgary clearly got better this offseason. Yeah they lost two big pieces on the wing, but they gained a top pairing defensemen (replacing a 5D), an elite wing, and a good 2C. The Avs also clearly got worse with Kadri moving on and with George being unproven. I don't know where that ends up in a matchup, but the changes lean in favor of Calgary.

Agree with you that Calgary has a well-balanced team but I disagree that they'd beat the Avs right now. They have a 'good' defense but I think it's being completely over-hyped big time. After all, it only took an injury to Chris "always injured" Tanev for their D to completely fall apart against the Oilers in the playoffs. Sure Markstrom was bad but then again so was Mike Smith and so was Kuemper and we still easily curb-stomped the team that beat the crap out of them.

Sure they added Weegar but Panther fans were thrilled to get rid of that guy as he apparently has a knack for making the worst possible play at the worst possible time when it counts the most. Hanifin, Rasmus Andersson, Weegar, Kylington these guys are all good players but I'm not sure I'd put any one of them in my Top-30 D in the league. Collectively, it's a good group but when one of those guys goes down, it's harder to lean on your 'superstar' D-Man since they don't really have one.

I actually like the moves they made but I don't believe that the Nazem Kadri they signed is the guy who put up 87 points last season. I think they are going to get the version from the 2 years prior but that's just my opinion.

If Georgiev ends up the 35th best goalie in the NHL, then yeah - I could see the flames beating the Avs but if he's even middle of the pack (15th to 20th) - I personally think we beat that team.

I'm just hoping to see a Calgary - St-Louis round 1 in next year's playoffs... would be phenomenal.

 

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A lot of that depends on Georgiev. If he's even just 'good' I think we'd kick their butts.

Agree with you that Calgary has a well-balanced team but I disagree that they'd beat the Avs right now. They have a 'good' defense but I think it's being completely over-hyped big time. After all, it only took an injury to Chris "always injured" Tanev for their D to completely fall apart against the Oilers in the playoffs. Sure Markstrom was bad but then again so was Mike Smith and so was Kuemper and we still easily curb-stomped the team that beat the crap out of them.

Sure they added Weegar but Panther fans were thrilled to get rid of that guy as he apparently has a knack for making the worst possible play at the worst possible time when it counts the most. Hanifin, Rasmus Andersson, Weegar, Kylington these guys are all good players but I'm not sure I'd put any one of them in my Top-30 D in the league. Collectively, it's a good group but when one of those guys goes down, it's harder to lean on your 'superstar' D-Man since they don't really have one.

I actually like the moves they made but I don't believe that the Nazem Kadri they signed is the guy who put up 87 points last season. I think they are going to get the version from the 2 years prior but that's just my opinion.

If Georgiev ends up the 35th best goalie in the NHL, then yeah - I could see the flames beating the Avs but if he's even middle of the pack (15th to 20th) - I personally think we beat that team.

I'm just hoping to see a Calgary - St-Louis round 1 in next year's playoffs... would be phenomenal.

FTR I didn't say Calgary would beat the Avs right now. I said Calgary has gotten stronger and the Avs have gotten weaker over the summer.

 

[The Kingslayer]

A lot of that depends on Georgiev. If he's even just 'good' I think we'd kick their butts.

Agree with you that Calgary has a well-balanced team but I disagree that they'd beat the Avs right now. They have a 'good' defense but I think it's being completely over-hyped big time. After all, it only took an injury to Chris "always injured" Tanev for their D to completely fall apart against the Oilers in the playoffs. Sure Markstrom was bad but then again so was Mike Smith and so was Kuemper and we still easily curb-stomped the team that beat the crap out of them.

Sure they added Weegar but Panther fans were thrilled to get rid of that guy as he apparently has a knack for making the worst possible play at the worst possible time when it counts the most. Hanifin, Rasmus Andersson, Weegar, Kylington these guys are all good players but I'm not sure I'd put any one of them in my Top-30 D in the league. Collectively, it's a good group but when one of those guys goes down, it's harder to lean on your 'superstar' D-Man since they don't really have one.

I actually like the moves they made but I don't believe that the Nazem Kadri they signed is the guy who put up 87 points last season. I think they are going to get the version from the 2 years prior but that's just my opinion.

If Georgiev ends up the 35th best goalie in the NHL, then yeah - I could see the flames beating the Avs but if he's even middle of the pack (15th to 20th) - I personally think we beat that team.

I'm just hoping to see a Calgary - St-Louis round 1 in next year's playoffs... would be phenomenal.

Calgary would beat the Avs easy. 3 games max.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Calgary would beat the Avs easy. 3 games max.

There is no offseason in Kingslayer Land. Stay strong, my friend!

 

[UncleRisto]

Calgary would beat the Avs easy. 3 games max.

How are you even still able to do it?

 

[Richard88]

I mean @Richard88 is literally Joe Sakic floating trade ideas and potential signings to the hardcore fan base, so yeah

 

[Avsboy]

Avs kryptonite is still Vegas. If they meet in the playoffs it wouldn’t go well.

 

[missionAvs]

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That's literally the face I picture whenever I read your posts, Richard.

 

[Balthazar]

Jfresh seems to like the contract

 

[ASmileyFace]

I like the Stutzle contract for sure. Amazing value is he pops off like the next MacK (which I think he might) and decent value if he peaks at 75-80 PPG pace which seems likely. Ottawa really set themselves up well for going all in when the cap goes up.

Their path to the playoffs is much tougher out east so this year is a question mark but I could see them being a consistant playoff team from 23/24 on with their core completely locked in.

 

[GoNordiquesGo]

I'd say Calgary has one of the best defenses in the league... top 5 at minimum.

Calgary's real strength though is how balanced the team is. They have a proven, established very good coach. They have a great defense that is quite easily top 5. Their center rotation is top 5. They have an elite, game breaking wing followed by a couple guys that should team up for 50-60 goals. Then a nice mix of two way play and physicality elsewhere on the wings. Then to top it off a top 15 (many argue top 10) goalie. It is a nicely balanced team.

At the beginning of last year people were saying that the Avs were weak at Center because Kadri was meh and should ideally be slotted as a strong 3C instead. And one great season at 31 later and makes Calgary's Center rotation of Lindholm-Kadri-Backlund Top 5 in the league? I think that's pushing it...

 

[The Abusement Park]

At the beginning of last year people were saying that the Avs were weak at Center because Kadri was meh and should ideally be slotted as a strong 3C instead. And one great season at 31 later and makes Calgary's Center rotation of Lindholm-Kadri-Backlund Top 5 in the league? I think that's pushing it...

I mean the Avs were weak at C because Jost was our 3C and 4C was Megan/Helm/Maltsev and at Kadri’s age regression was a possibility. Even if we rated Kadri as his normal 2C self the C position was very weak in the bottom 6. Obviously he popped off last year but that’s not true Kadri.

As for CGY they have a 1C who’s near elite in two way ability, potentially a higher end 2C in Kadri, a very very good 3C in Backlund. I don’t see many teams better at C 1-3 than CGY. Doesn’t have the upside of a Mack but it’s way deeper than us.

 

[UnkleKraker]

Just curious, do we feel Weagar is a 1D or was that a reference to someone else?

 

[Nzap]

Just curious, do we feel Weagar is a 1D or was that a reference to someone else?

To someone else. Weegar

 

[The Abusement Park]

Just curious, do we feel Weagar is a 1D or was that a reference to someone else?

No I don’t think so. He’s a top pairing guy east though.

 

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At the beginning of last year people were saying that the Avs were weak at Center because Kadri was meh and should ideally be slotted as a strong 3C instead. And one great season at 31 later and makes Calgary's Center rotation of Lindholm-Kadri-Backlund Top 5 in the league? I think that's pushing it...

Kadri has always been a 2C... not an elite 2C, but a solid to good one. That rotation isn't elite because of Kadri... it is elite because of Lindholm and Backlund. Lindholm is a debatable top 10 center. Backlund is a low end 2c with a fantastic 2 way game that will be now slotted as an elite 3C. Two elite level centers as their slotting 1 and 3 with a good 2C... that is an elite group.

 

[Pokecheque]

Weegar is definitely a top-pairing guy, and if Sutter pairs him with Tanev as many suspect, that'll be one of the best shutdown duos in the league.

Both he and Markstrom need to clean up the postseason brain farts, but apart from that, Calgary looks like a legit contender right now.

 

[GoNordiquesGo]

Don't get me wrong, I really like their center line. I just think top 5 is pushing it. More like 5-10 IMHO. Without spending too much time, I'm pretty sure at least five of those teams can field a better center line. Now they may choose to play centers on the wings and it changes the result however...
Edmonton, Florida, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Vancouver, Vegas, St-Louis, Ottawa (maybe still too much unproven however, like New Jersey...),

 

[Alienblood]

Weegar is definitely a top-pairing guy, and if Sutter pairs him with Tanev as many suspect, that'll be one of the best shutdown duos in the league.

Both he and Markstrom need to clean up the postseason brain farts, but apart from that, Calgary looks like a legit contender right now.

2 right shots

Weegar is definitely a top-pairing guy, and if Sutter pairs him with Tanev as many suspect, that'll be one of the best shutdown duos in the league.

Both he and Markstrom need to clean up the postseason brain farts, but apart from that, Calgary looks like a legit contender right now.

They look worse than last year and hardly a threat

 

[Pokecheque]

2 right shots


They look worse than last year and hardly a threat

Maybe you haven’t heard—Weegar plays the left side a lot.

 

[Balthazar]

Maybe you haven’t heard—Weegar plays the left side a lot.

Yea and he started having issues once they switched him from side to side. Not unlike Girard.

They should leave him on his natural right side until he gets comfortable then leave him there forever. Even if he had more success on the left before. Don't repeat the Brodie mistake.

Also Girard should never play another shift on the right side.

 

[redacted]

Yea and he started having issues once they switched him from side to side. Not unlike Girard.

They should leave him on his natural right side until he gets comfortable then leave him there forever. Even if he had more success on the left before. Don't repeat the Brodie mistake.

Also Girard should never play another shift on the right side.

Weegar is much, much, much better on the left. It is his natural side despite being a right shot.