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How to Kill Your Cup Hopes in One Trade
To be fair, I think the Panthers probably knew that they would be a worse team in the short term, but Tkachuk is going to be better for the franchise in long term. 4 years younger.
 
To be fair, I think the Panthers probably knew that they would be a worse team in the short term, but Tkachuk is going to be better for the franchise in long term. 4 years younger.
I get that. But they also gave up their best/2nd best dman and a 1st pick in the process. Literally all their organizational depth got moved in the last year.
 
I get that. But they also gave up their best/2nd best dman and a 1st pick in the process. Literally all their organizational depth got moved in the last year.
I think one of the interesting storylines is the battle between Toronto and Florida from an ideological standpoint. We all know the history Toronto has had, but Dubas has stayed true to his vision and refused to make drastic changes. Florida loses to Tampa in consecutive years, they do a massive shakeup. Coach is gone, the 2nd best player of the team is gone. Should be interesting to see whether or not these changes Florida made paid off, and if the patience of Dubas will be rewarded. A clash of two ideologies.
 
I think one of the interesting storylines is the battle between Toronto and Florida from an ideological standpoint. We all know the history Toronto has had, but Dubas has stayed true to his vision and refused to make drastic changes. Florida loses to Tampa in consecutive years, they do a massive shakeup. Coach is gone, the 2nd best player of the team is gone. Should be interesting to see whether or not these changes Florida made paid off, and if the patience of Dubas will be rewarded. A clash of two ideologies.
aka, which management group gets the door first?
 
Between Florida/Tampa/Toronto all sucking their is some real opportunity for buffalo/Detroit/Ottawa this year.

Tampa should bounce back, Toronto as well if they get goaltending, Florida I think is toast.


Also, for how awful we look we’re still 2nd in our division. Not worried about our boys we’ll get the forward depth cleaned up with a couple trades at some point
 
I think one of the interesting storylines is the battle between Toronto and Florida from an ideological standpoint. We all know the history Toronto has had, but Dubas has stayed true to his vision and refused to make drastic changes. Florida loses to Tampa in consecutive years, they do a massive shakeup. Coach is gone, the 2nd best player of the team is gone. Should be interesting to see whether or not these changes Florida made paid off, and if the patience of Dubas will be rewarded. A clash of two ideologies.
What if both ideologies are wrong and the answer is to draft Cale Makar? :sarcasm:
 
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Between Florida/Tampa/Toronto all sucking their is some real opportunity for buffalo/Detroit/Ottawa this year.

Tampa should bounce back, Toronto as well if they get goaltending, Florida I think is toast.


Also, for how awful we look we’re still 2nd in our division. Not worried about our boys we’ll get the forward depth cleaned up with a couple trades at some point
Maybe Buffalo or Ottawa. Detroit isn’t close to being a playoff team.
 
I mean… it was hyperbole (and in a joking way) and scoring won’t be exact pacing of today (Greer is on his way for Gretzky), but clear we are out of the 3-2 world of years past.we don’t know where it will fall, but entirely possible we are in a new scoring boom.

I hated the mid 10s, DPE 2.0 minus the violence. I’m ready for 80s 2.0
 
I hated the mid 10s, DPE 2.0 minus the violence. I’m ready for 80s 2.0
I'd rather not go all the way to the 80s... getting to a 4-3 world would be a lot better. Moving to the 5-4/6-5 80s is a bit much to me.

Either way though... when you go back and say __ point player from 5 years ago (or even 2), I don't think you can apply it today if this continues. A 40 point defensemen a few years ago might be a 55-60 today. A 55 point 2nd liner might have to be 65-70 today. PPG turns into 90+. etc. Right now in the crossroads, it is just hard to know what to expect there.
 
The scoring will never get back to the 80s-highs. Go look at the goals that goalies let in back in those days. There's literally a video out there of Mike Vernon (yes, THAT Mike Vernon) inching his way across the ice sideways like he had just put skates on for the first time in his life. It's not that he couldn't skate, it's the way goalie mechanics were taught back then, they were drawing from the same handbook that hadn't changed for, like, 50 years. I don't believe goalie coaches were even a thing until Francois Allaire revolutionized the way the position is taught and played later on. Even with the equipment changes, goaltending will never regress to...that.

Someone on Twitter posted a challenge--show me one goal Gretzky scored that I wouldn't be mad at my beer league goalie for letting in. :laugh:
 
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