If the coach isn't in a position to help a young player succeed, the young player shouldn't be on the team.
Galchenyuk was doing just fine… when we played him. When we finally did put him as our number one at the end of that year he was a top ten scorer in the league. The team was starving for offense and yet our idiot coach kept the midget in the first line. An absolute disgrace.
It's hard to have that hunger to improve your game when you are in a toxic environment which Therrien most certainly created.
Which leads straight to Therrien being the problem and not a case of being rushed. The problem is and always was Therrien just being terrible. It's also worth mentioning Galchenyuk and Kotkaniemi were in fact quite successful in their rookie years.
Correct.
Ask MSL about hunger & toxicity…. where there’s a will there’s a way.
scary as it may be - imagine how many youth Therrien Coaches there are in minor hockey - just ruining the experience for the bottom 3 lines.. on every team.. in every league.
that’s the issue with all these examples used to justify rushing Slaf — they’re all horribly flawed examples that miss one thing or the other, sometimes purposefully
My friend grew up in Hockey Quebec and says the entire league is riddled with those types of coaches. They all learned from each other and come from the same cloth, so to speak.
Neither player demonstrated any personality flaws in their rookie season. This is character assassination to deflect attention from the obvious issue on the table: they were rushed to the NHL.
Last I checked Kucherov was picked 58th overall and no one expected him to jump into the top 6 on day 1 and he didn’t start directly in the NHL.
After ten years of Marc Bergevin, I think we can safely say that this simply isn't true.
You’re getting too caught up with Slaf’s draft position in what every pundit agreed upon was a very weak draft cuvee
Yet Price, Subban & Pacioretty had their best years, yet Gallagher became an NHLer.
Hindsight is 20-20 at the moment I get your point but it could be that these reps at this level is more valuable than you think.
Three of those players developed under the previous regime. They hit their prime under MT but he hardly helped them.
Let’s stick with Montreal. What’s a skilled player supposed to do when they have to go through SL and then MT? It’s a recipe for disaster.
That’s ironic since I vividly recall a quote from
Guy Lafleur was like that too. But Bowman was smart enough to play to his strengths. He couldn’t fit the system so they played him with guys who could and then let him do his own thing. That’s the difference between a good coach and a bad one.
Not really, the reason Lafleur played mostly 3rd & 4th lines his first 3-seasons was because he refused to understand the concept of defensive zone awareness, and working hard at practice, once he did & started playing the 200-ft game (going hard on the back check) starting his 4th season, his TOI magically increased, as did quality of line mates & production levels
Lafleur never was able to follow a system. This is well documented. Larry Robinson has a long interview on it somewhere.
That was in reference to Lemaire’s system (neutral zone trap), Scotty never believed in systems, except the Selke Sr concept of 200-ft hockey.
Sure there was Galchenyuk was a mental midget incapable of understanding and processing information to execute learnings on the ice. If he even had a morsel of ability to learn & grow he’d still be playing a top-6 role in NHL
And yet… he was better than DD. By far.
Did it matter for Koivu? Plekanec? Markov? Crosby? Malkin? Letang? MSL?
