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What do you say to the argument that the only way to develop an NHLer is for him to play in the NHL? That argument bounced around here plenty of times to justify Slaf’s instant promotion.
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He could be down the road. Rantanen played 9 games initially for the Avs and ended up in the AHL.
Pointless in those 9 games. Slaf is a legit prospect.
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Reading people here, apparently not.
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Why do you distort the facts? I cannot remember single person saying that. Slaf can be developed in juniors, AHL , NHL or Europe. You and few others were insisting that Slaf cannot be developed in NHL and have to be sent down.
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I have to be honest, I'm actually a little more impressed with him than I expected.
That said, they need to find a way to stop Balki from going to concussion protocol every second game.
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Why do you think I’ve distorted? When the topic of Slaf’s promotion was hot, many here agreed and argued that Slaf was a project who would best develop in the NHL. I can call on @BaseballCoach for saying this and some others for supporting that argument. Didn’t see many disagreeing with it either.
Slaf did not impress in Rookie Camp and did not impress in Training Camp, but the argument was that he needed to play in the NHL anyway since he was closer to MSL and would learn the NHL game at a good pace in the NHL.
Many made a point to say the AHL would be dangerous for Slaf and he would have too few good linemates for him to properly develop.
It’s worth re-examining these arguments, I think. Because none of us know what works and for which players it works for. My angle hasn’t changed since before the draft: I don’t like how the Habs develop offensive talent, and don’t trust the organization to take big risks at the draft table. And I don’t trust the organization when they repeat the same move for the third time (thrusting an 18 year old into the NHL). Since then, I still haven’t been convinced that Slaf is best served in the NHL.
On another note, I really really don’t care about Wright. I’m more critical of Slaf’s situation than I’ve ever cared about Shane Wright. I really don’t believe Slaf is on the right path and I blame the organization for it.
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You hear a lot of golfers say we should play from the reds once in a while to learn how to score. I’d love to see a few more flashes of Slaf dominate his opposing line once in a while I must say.
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Judging as a whole body of work (1/3 the season), he’s been very underwhelming.
There is true reason for concern. Not just with Slaf’s abilities, but with managements handling of this whole thing.
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You are smart guy who can work with data so I am sure you understand the difference between the only way and the best way.
I absolutely agree with you. It is the right time to re-assess this development way as it is not working now. I hope they make the correct decision in right time.
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Well… most people suck ass at golf, so I’d say not very many lol.
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I watched DeChambeau do it just last week on Youtube.
But I mean it can’t be the first time you hear of the concept whatever the sport. (You feel how it is to dominate to then have it just out of reach until you feel it again)
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Really? Not many 18 yr olds do much better. Without looking it up I'm sure he is just fine with 95% of 18 yr olds starting off in the show. In fact some HOF players didn't lit it up first 30 games as 18 yr olds.
Add in the fact the org. knew development would take time.....and let everyone know.
Not just you but I don't get the need to judge so fast in order to chest thump (not ypu)
Just breath. I swear some on here would rather him fail to say I told ya he should be in AHL to start.
He will make it big, have a decent career or underwhelm. The value people pit the oath post draft is very odd to me as every player is unique.
His success ( acheiving his max potential ) or lack of will 1000% have more to do with him, attitude, work ethic, desire......ya know factors he can control ) than it will playing AHL or NHL to start. To suggest as many do on here they know best is funny to me as we are on the outside without intimate knowledge.
If he wants it, works hard I see POTENTIAL advantages in both.
It'll be 3/4 years, IMO (which means nothing) until the picture starts to clarify on what exactly they have. Like with 99% of NHL players including stars....the #s comparison has been made often only yo be ignored.
If he had a slow start Iin the AHL I'm possitive the narrative here woulda been wrong player drafted lol.
He will make it or not, but I like the risk and starring with the pro club.
None I’d say. People have to stop with this idea. His issues don’t get solved by playing junior hockey.
The problems that Slaf has don’t get solved by playing junior hockey, it just defers his development. The only league outside of the NHL he should maybe play in is the AHL. Not Europe, not CHL, AHL or NHL.
The other leagues won’t teach him anything. FWIW I think same with Wright. It’s kind of a waste of time for him to be there, to be honest.
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The NHL is just to fast for him at the moment. He looks lost a lot of the time and out of sync. They need to send him to the AHL and let him play top line minutes and PP time until he dominates. They can’t afford to Galchenyuk/Kotkaniemi his development.
You seem familiar with it. Any thoughts?
Edit......just did. Kid looks fine on comparison. Some crushed it early fell off some started on same pace and became Allstars.
But I think context matters n I font know who all the players on the list played with, PP opportunities, strength of competition ect. But strictly numbers based it's no biggie.
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He has many issues lately, October hockey is over and now teams have starting up the pace and just can't keep up at all for now .
He's being hit like there is no tomorrow because he doesn't read what's coming. He needs to work on that .
He needs to be more aware defensively.
He needs to work to make quicker decisions.
All stuff that he can learn from playing more minutes in NA hockey. The AHL on the first line would be idea for him right now with tons of pp time.
We are at a point right now that he's more lost thab Drouin hoffman or Anderson.
They made a bad decision by keeping him after 9 games , but we all saw that coming let's be honest.
Not sending him for the WJC is also a bad idea.
Also our coaching staff have no idea what to do it with him
He's easy to compare at Kotkaniemi and Galchenyuk because we saw it happen twice in 10 years. I would legit day thw same for Lafreniere. Rushing 18 year olds is often a bad bad bad idea
He's being hit like there is no tomorrow because he doesn't read what's coming. He needs to work on that .
He needs to be more aware defensively.
He needs to work to make quicker decisions.
All stuff that he can learn from playing more minutes in NA hockey. The AHL on the first line would be idea for him right now with tons of pp time.
We are at a point right now that he's more lost thab Drouin hoffman or Anderson.
They made a bad decision by keeping him after 9 games , but we all saw that coming let's be honest.
Not sending him for the WJC is also a bad idea.
Also our coaching staff have no idea what to do it with him
He's easy to compare at Kotkaniemi and Galchenyuk because we saw it happen twice in 10 years. I would legit day thw same for Lafreniere. Rushing 18 year olds is often a bad bad bad idea
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Agreed on context. He’s not taking outlet passes from Ray Bourque here.You seem familiar with it. Any thoughts?
Edit......just did. Kid looks fine on comparison. Some crushed it early fell off some started on same pace and became Allstars.
But I think context matters n I font know who all the players on the list played with, PP opportunities, strength of competition ect. But strictly numbers based it's no biggie.
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They all look like ass to me. I think a team (in business too for that matter) needs a critical mass of talent and experience before everyone elevates.
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