Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 2

[HuGort]

PSA:

Saying Slaf had a bad and/or underwhelming game(s) does not == people saying/thinking he's a bust

Slaf Not off to good start. Nobody can argue that. Habs fans generally know what they are doing

So because he's the captain he's mandated to mention specific players?

Y’all kill me...everything has to be drama.


Not nearly enough my guy

First overall pick right. Mentioned the others

 

[BehindTheTimes]

This thread has 95 pages worth of evidence...look for yourself.

Again, I provided 2 of many examples.



Yes several have, several of which I've actively participated in that very debate with.

I mean someones said he's the next Turner Stevenson for God sake lol

Upsets me?

Pfftttt lol I think you seeing my username upsets you more than anything, not even sure why.

Probably ate your food on here one point and you mad ever since.

That's a you problem lol

Still nothing, but deflection and talking in circles. Accept defeat and move on. As per usual you knocked down a narrative you created.

Not one person did what you claimed. Thanks for wasting my time again, now go back to arguing with everybody all day long. I wouldn’t want to interrupt your strawman argument for too long.

 

[SOLR]

I‘ve seen the same clips as everyone. I read the tea leaves differently. I think they’re much more inclined to keep him in the NHL right now.

They want to create a stable environment as much as possible.

 

[Peteux]

I got one -> Renaud Lavoie is very close to call him a bust. Particularly the guy is already going to even criticizing the way he tape his hockey stick saying good player tape it all and he should think about it. Same guy that was bashing Shane Wright before the draft and saying Slaf was a WoW player. ( funny coming from a media of a TV channel, he's losing more and more credibility to me)

LOL. Did he really say that Slaf was a WoW player? Is he a WoW player, really?

I remember when RDS couldn't shut up about Fornite and Laine...

Not my business at all, but gaming might be better than going out drinking.

 

[NotProkofievian]

They want to create a stable environment as much as possible.

I certainly hope so. It's been my position for a long time that he has work to do, so let's put him to work.

 

[417]

I wouldn't say it doesn't matter, since his hockey IQ issues and trouble with the NHL game and NHL defensemen are something a lot of us saw coming. That doesn't mean those issues will persist forever, but they do definitely exist.

Development does not have a single variable. Everything about a player is calculated as part of an equation that will eventually predict success or failure.

I meant it doesn't matter in the sense that the sample size (2 games) is too small and context (preseason) is meaningless, to draw any real conclusions from.

I don't know how you've discerned that his hockey IQ is low or he can't keep up with NHL defensemen yet...what are you basing this on?

Still nothing, but deflection and talking in circles. Accept defeat and move on. As per usual you knocked down a narrative you created.

Once again, I provided examples...because you refuse to acknowledge them is your problem, not mine.

Accept defeat? lol is this a dual or something?

You haven't even bothered participating in the debate, you've just come here carrying your axe you have to grind with me for some reason, again, who knows why lol

You won big guy, you got me lol As per usual, your posts are always about me rather than the thread topic. I don't get it, such a weird phenomenon to have someone obsess over me on a message board.

But anyways...Have you been following this thread? it's on 97 pages and counting why do you think that is?? You really need me to provide examples of people drawing far-reaching conclusions based on 2 preseason games?

As though that's not the very reason why this thread is so active?

What's next, you need to need me to break off a piece of the sky to confirm whether or not it's blue?

Not one person did what you claimed. Thanks for wasting my time again, now go back to arguing with everybody all day long. I wouldn’t want to interrupt your strawman argument for too long.

Nobody asked you to respond to my post, next time keep it moving.

See that post above, me and that poster are having a discussion...what you and I are doing, that's me indulging your need to have my attention.

Don't want to waste your time? Don't respond to my posts, hell, don't even look at them. I didn't @ you not my fault you got 417 alerts going straight to your email, toggle off your alerts.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I meant it doesn't matter in the sense that the sample size (2 games) is too small and context (preseason) is meaningless, to draw any real conclusions from.

I don't know how you've discerned that his hockey IQ is low or he can't keep up with NHL defensemen yet...what are you basing this on?


Once again, I provided examples...because you refuse to acknowledge them is your problem, not mine.

Accept defeat? lol is this a dual or something?

You haven't even bothered participating in the debate, you've just come here carrying your axe you have to grind with me for some reason, again, who knows why lol

You won big guy, you got me lol As per usual, your posts are always about me rather than the thread topic. I don't get it, such a weird phenomenon to have someone obsess over me on a message board.

But anyways...Have you been following this thread? it's on 97 pages and counting why do you think that is?? You really need me to provide examples of people drawing far-reaching conclusions based on 2 preseason games?

As though that's not the very reason why this thread is so active?

What's next, you need to need me to break off a piece of the sky to confirm whether or not it's blue?


Nobody asked you to respond to my post, next time keep it moving.

See that post above, me and that poster are having a discussion...what you and I are doing, that's me indulging your need to have my attention.

Don't want to waste your time? Don't respond to my posts, hell, don't even look at them. I didn't @ you not my fault you got 417 alerts going straight to your email, toggle off your alerts.

Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing for the 3rd time to support your argument. Surprise, surprise.

 

[tymed]

Looking like Slaf doesn't make the team this year? Fantasy question because Im picking high and don't have prospect stashes in my keeper format, it would be devastating to take him and wait a year for him to be a regular.

 

[417]

Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing for the 3rd time to support your argument. Surprise, surprise.

there's 97 pages worth of posts support my argument...

Incredible how much headspace I occupy in that brain of yours though, damn.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Looking like Slaf doesn't make the team this year? Fantasy question because Im picking high and don't have prospect stashes in my keeper format, it would be devastating to take him and wait a year for him to be a regular.

Even if he makes the team you should not be picking him in a fantasy league. He shouldn't make the team based on what has been displayed so far, but I think the jury is still out.

 

[417]

Even if he makes the team you should not be picking him in a fantasy league. He shouldn't make the team based on what has been displayed so far, but I think the jury is still out.

Light work lol

But yeah, sure...no one is making far reaching conclusions based on tiny samples.

and you top that brilliant piece of advice with "the jury is still out"

Oh really, you mean the jury is still out on a 1st overall pick whose 18 and has played a total of 2 preseason games.

Riveting stuff here...

 

[Kennerback]

Anyone else watching Wright? Very underwhelming so far.

Wright and Slaf have produced a total of 0 goals in 5 games. I can say I liked or didn’t like other aspects of their game. And I’ve liked a lot of stuff about Slaf. But meaningless goals and points in the preseason matter for high end forwards trying to make the team.

 

[tymed]

Even if he makes the team you should not be picking him in a fantasy league. He shouldn't make the team based on what has been displayed so far, but I think the jury is still out.

Dynasty league... If a fresh 1oa makes the league he holds a ton of value and there's usually a little wiggle room to hang onto the upside of a couple of youngsters.

 

[417]

Wright and Slaf have produced a total of 0 goals in 5 games. I can say I liked or didn’t like other aspects of their game. And I’ve liked a lot of stuff about Slaf. But meaningless goals and points in the preseason matter for high end forwards trying to make the team.

Let's say he scores a goal or grabs an assist next game...should that alone drastically alter whether or not he makes the team?

I hope the coaching staff is taking into account more than just results here, sometimes players can do a lot of good things on the ice that don't necessarily lead to points. That's why IMO, focusing solely on the result is not ideal because it removes focus from the process.

Remove the expectation of what a 1st overall is supposed to be, since that seems to be a mental block for many, and has his performance been so horrible? Especially in relation to his peers on the team?

If we're going to attach that much meaning to preseason performances, then there are a lot more forwards to who should be worried about making this team other than Slafkovsky.

 

[OnTheRun]

Dynasty league... If a fresh 1oa makes the league he holds a ton of value and there's usually a little wiggle room to hang onto the upside of a couple of youngsters.

He's not a lock at this point. But the Habs still have 4 preseason games to play. While he wasn't stellar so far, he didn't play himself out of a roster spot either, so there is no indication the Habs will opt-out of their option to give him a 9 NHL games trial at this point.

 

[themilosh]

He's not a lock at this point. But the Habs still have 4 preseason games to play. While he wasn't stellar so far, he didn't play himself out of a roster spot either, so there is no indication the Habs will opt-out of their option to give him a 9 NHL games trial at this point.

I dont want Slaf to "start" in the NHL.. he should start and play a full season in the AHL, and if he proves himself there, then we gift him 9 games at the end of the season.. wayy too much pressure to start on the roster, and he is not ready.

 

[Ezpz]

I dont want Slaf to "start" in the NHL.. he should start and play a full season in the AHL, and if he proves himself there, then we gift him 9 games at the end of the season.. wayy too much pressure to start on the roster, and he is not ready.

I also prefer the start in the AHL and give him his 9 games scattered throughout he season when he's doing well. If actually forces his way onto the roster and plays incredible it doesn't matter about burning a year of his ELC. Sometimes getting to the RFA status faster is better, particularly if you want to lock him into an 8-year deal before his value explodes. Caufield for example we will get much cheaper because he burned a year by signing at the end of the year. If we had to re-sign him one year later he would command a much higher salary.

 

[Canadienna]

Hoping he gets a preseason game stapled next to Suzuki- Caufield. I mean, with all the chatter pre draft and just for evaluation, it seems like we should at least try this.

 

[Kennerback]

Dynasty league... If a fresh 1oa makes the league he holds a ton of value and there's usually a little wiggle room to hang onto the upside of a couple of youngsters.

Most interpret the statements by Montreal as they intend to send him to the AHL. But the statements are ambiguous and it’s still early.

 

[morhilane]

Hoping he gets a preseason game stapled next to Suzuki- Caufield. I mean, with all the chatter pre draft and just for evaluation, it seems like we should at least try this.

You might want to ready this: Martin St-Louis is using preseason as a stress test, not a tryout

 

[Canadienna]

You might want to ready this: Martin St-Louis is using preseason as a stress test, not a tryout

I appreciate you linking that. I don't agree with this sentiment:

"If Slafkovský is to play in the NHL this season, he’s likely not going to be able to spend the entirety of that time in the top six, especially given Montreal’s glut of forwards. The Canadiens need to determine whether the big Slovak can hold his own on checking lines"

 

[Runner77]

I also prefer the start in the AHL and give him his 9 games scattered throughout he season when he's doing well.

Why 9 games for a European player?

Edit: I looked into further in my subsequent post.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Why 9 games? Why not 15 or 23?

It is my understanding that the 9 game threshold is only applicable to signed players from the CHL. It doesn’t apply to players from European leagues.

If Slaf doesn’t cut it, he’ll be sent down to the AHL, and called up at will.

Mmmm don't think that's right. If he plays more than 9 games his contract won't ''slide.''

''If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year.''

 

[Ezpz]

Why 9 games? Why not 15 or 23?

It is my understanding that the 9 game threshold is only applicable to signed players from the CHL. It doesn’t apply to players from European leagues.

If Slaf doesn’t cut it, he’ll be sent down to the AHL, and called up at will.

I believe it's simply for players signed under 20 a contract can slide if they play 9 games or less. From 20 there are no slides whatsoever.

 

[The Great Weal]

Context? That exists nowadays? I for one am shocked that Kent Hughes doesn't think Slaf is a bust already, you would think that those two preseason games told you all you need to know.