Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 2

[SlafySZN]

Curiously, Slaf couldn’t get by on neither his skills nor his physical attributes in Liiga or the Liiga playoffs.

You really should learn about Liiga, the type of hockey they play, watch some Slafkovsky’s shifts out there. Honestly, because you really don’t seems to get it.

 

[Treb]

It won’t happen though, MSL knows how to place the young players in better situations.

Such as in Laval where he can get ice time and responsibilities that help him grow.

Again, it all depends how he plays. If he plays like a top6 guy, that's perfect. If he plays worse than the other guys and find himself out of the top 9, might be better in Laval.

 

[Kennerback]

You really should learn about Liiga, the type of hockey they play, watch some Slafkovsky’s shifts out there. Honestly, because you really don’t seems to get it.

There also might have been a bit of bad luck. At the Olympics he had 33% shooting percentage, at the World Championship he had 19% (not far above top NHL snipers that can have 16+%) and in his first stint in Liiga he had 2%, second Ligga stint + playoffs he had single digit %. And to give an idea of the level of his line mates and his circumstances in Liiga= In the whole season (playoffs included), he had only 1 secondary assist.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Give him 9 games, even if he scores PPG+ I would still send him down to Laval. The Calder cup should be the most important thing in the Canadiens organization right now, we could have a legitimate chance at it. The Habs should be tanking hard for Fantilli or better.

 

[Redux91]

Give him 9 games, even if he scores PPG+ I would still send him down to Laval. The Calder cup should be the most important thing in the Canadiens organization right now, we could have a legitimate chance at it. The Habs should be tanking hard for Fantilli or better.

Well, that WONT be happening lol
Are you serious like, if our 1st OV pick has 10 points in 9 games, there will be rejoicing in the streets of MTL , and he wont be going anywhere

 

[26Mats]

Give him 9 games, even if he scores PPG+ I would still send him down to Laval. The Calder cup should be the most important thing in the Canadiens organization right now, we could have a legitimate chance at it. The Habs should be tanking hard for Fantilli or better.

I'm a hardcore tanker. But realistically, whatever is best for the development od our young players is still number 1 for me. Just can't hold them back in order to tank.

Hopefully some vets play better sooner rather than later, are moved for decent futures, and that helps the tank like moving all the vets did last year. That, and if you really want to help the tank, trade Allen, acquire a Hamburgler like goalie, and go Monty-Hamburgler

So I think there are options that don't involve holding the youth back.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’d be happy if he was at Svechnikov’s level TBH. Different styles, I know, but I’d like him to be a big body threat to score when he’s on the ice and produce lots of offence.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

I mean, maybe? It did take Lafleur 3 seasons to really break through.

I think if Slaf produces at the rate Lafleur did in his first 3 seasons everybody would be estatic

Give him 9 games, even if he scores PPG+ I would still send him down to Laval. The Calder cup should be the most important thing in the Canadiens organization right now, we could have a legitimate chance at it. The Habs should be tanking hard for Fantilli or better.

on one hand I’m completely on board with what you’re saying. The Calder Cup would be amazing, Fantilli or better would be amazing.. but man.. if our 18yo 1OA starts the season at PPG+ through 9 games and we send him down I can’t imagine the message that would send to not only him, but the other young guys both in Montreal and Laval. If the kid forces his way on this team in a top 6 capacity and doesn’t look out of place doing it, you take that and run with it.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Give him 9 games, even if he scores PPG+ I would still send him down to Laval. The Calder cup should be the most important thing in the Canadiens organization right now, we could have a legitimate chance at it. The Habs should be tanking hard for Fantilli or better.

0 chance he is good enough to bring this team out of bottom 5, we have the worst team in the nhl on paper

Why send him down if he’s playing well and producing?

 

[Runner77]

I’d be happy if he was at Svechnikov’s level TBH. Different styles, I know, but I’d like him to be a big body threat to score when he’s on the ice and produce lots of offence.

He’s Gillies, a poor man’s Malkin, wait … he’s another Armia… but no, he’s a Jagr! Check that, he’s a Lindros, a Svechnikov, he’s a bird, he’s a plane … he’s everything to everyone.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

I think if Slaf produces at the rate Lafleur did in his first 3 seasons everybody would be estatic

on one hand I’m completely on board with what you’re saying. The Calder Cup would be amazing, Fantilli or better would be amazing.. but man.. if our 18yo 1OA starts the season at PPG+ through 9 games and we send him down I can’t imagine the message that would send to not only him, but the other young guys both in Montreal and Laval. If the kid forces his way on this team in a top 6 capacity and doesn’t look out of place doing it, you take that and run with it.

We have too many forwards as is, I think we have 14, we’re gonna need to trade at least 1

They should tell him that they wanna put him in the AHL ahead of time and regardless of what he does in the 9 games. Why rush him? Especially when we have no room for him. Or maybe not even give him the nine games in the beginning and use him as a call up during the season..

We should be patient for once, leave Barron, Ghule and Slafkovsky in the AHL for the whole season and go for the Calder.

 

[ReHabs]

He’s Gillies, a poor man’s Malkin, wait … he’s another Armia… but no, he’s a Jagr! Check that, he’s a Lindros, a Svechnikov, he’s a bird, he’s a plane … he’s everything to everyone.

This is how you know everybody is full of baloney and nearly nobody has seen the guy play in any reliable sense of the word.

Or… that he’s a very special unicorn and will utilize his many gifts and talents and tools to be the greatest winger in the sport’s history.

 

[rahad]

We have too many forwards as is, I think we have 14, we’re gonna need to trade at least 1

They should tell him that they wanna put him in the AHL ahead of time and regardless of what he does in the 9 games. Why rush him? Especially when we have no room for him. Or maybe not even give him the nine games in the beginning and use him as a call up during the season..

We should be patient for once, leave Barron, Ghule and Slafkovsky in the AHL for the whole season and go for the Calder.

The price of ticket for a game in Laval will increase by a lot with all those player in AHL.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The price of ticket for a game in Laval will increase by a lot with all those player in AHL.

Not sure if you are serious??

 

[Tetragrammaton]

The price of ticket for a game in Laval will increase by a lot with all those player in AHL.

It would be sellout crowds for sure

 

[Tetragrammaton]

0 chance he is good enough to bring this team out of bottom 5, we have the worst team in the nhl on paper

Why send him down if he’s playing well and producing?

Well maybe he shouldn’t even get the chance this season, maybe he should be a call up and get his 9 games in like that, get a good lil taste. They should do what’s best for him no matter what that is. Winning a Calder cup in his first year as a pro can be a very good thing for him.

 

[Xirik]

Great, so he is going to play in Laval forever.

By the way, Guy Lafleur started on the 3rd line. I guess he should have been sent down to the minors to gain confidence, and only get called up to the NHL if there were injuries so he could be in the top 6 by default.

Your argument is that a guy from 49 years ago did it so Slafkovsky can do it?

Maybe Slafkovsky should walk 10km in the snow to get to the Arena, That's how we did it back in my day.

 

[CHfan1]

We have too many forwards as is, I think we have 14, we’re gonna need to trade at least 1

They should tell him that they wanna put him in the AHL ahead of time and regardless of what he does in the 9 games. Why rush him? Especially when we have no room for him. Or maybe not even give him the nine games in the beginning and use him as a call up during the season..

We should be patient for once, leave Barron, Ghule and Slafkovsky in the AHL for the whole season and go for the Calder.

They have 16 forwards in total, including Slafkovsky. I expect they’ll keep 14 forwards, 7 defenceman, and 2 goalies on the roster. If Slafkovsky is in the AHL and Byron is on injured reserve that leaves them with 14 forwards.

I’m not sure who’d they trade right now, a lot of their forwards have no value on the trade market. With Price, probably, going on LTIR they are fine for cap space as well.

 

[Runner77]

Maybe Slafkovsky should walk 10km in the snow to get to the Arena, That's how we did it back in my day.

Danny Kristo approved. Perfect routine if there are toes Slaf wants to get rid of.

 

[Xirik]

Somehow I don't see Slaf lacking confidence...

I don't get all the AHL talk. He will be in the NHL and if he can't crack it, maybe Liiga. I don't think the AHL is a great spot for him.

So instead of playing him in Laval where the Habs have control in how he develops they send him back to Liga where they have no input and play a very defensively responsible style. perhaps the Habs drafted him in order for him to become a two way player?

The AHL vs NHL argument boils down to whether what type of learning environment you believe is best. Are you the "toss the kid into the deep end and hope he figures it out" training that can be faster or detrimental to the kid or the "coach/teacher walking you through it step by step" training that is slower but isn't as potentially harming.

 

[WinterLion]

So instead of playing him in Laval where the Habs have control in how he develops they send him back to Liga where they have no input and play a very defensively responsible style. perhaps the Habs drafted him in order for him to become a two way player?

The AHL vs NHL argument boils down to whether what type of learning environment you believe is best. Are you the "toss the kid into the deep end and hope he figures it out" training that can be faster or detrimental to the kid or the "coach/teacher walking you through it step by step" training that is slower but isn't as potentially harming.

If they think he needs more time then Liiga is a great development league, but I am 90% sure he will play all season in the NHL. He is strong enough and I think he will adapt to the pro game quickly enough that the AHL won't be necessary. That's my take, but could be wrong!

 

[Runner77]

If they think he needs more time then Liiga is a great development league, but I am 90% sure he will play all season in the NHL. He is strong enough and I think he will adapt to the pro game quickly enough that the AHL won't be necessary. That's my take, but could be wrong!

Would they not favor a stint in the AHL (if needed, obviously) over Liiga? At least they could keep close tabs on him and he’d grow faster familiarity with the North American game.

 

[WinterLion]

Would they not favor a stint in the AHL (if needed, obviously) over Liiga? At least they could keep close tabs on him and he’d grow faster familiarity with the North American game.

Personally I would only send him to the AHL if he needs to learn the pro game or gain a bit of confidence... but I think he will be able to do both this year in the NHL because everyone knows this is a transition year for the Habs. If they feel he needs to "develop" further and work on many things I think Liiga would be better than the AHL. Less pressure, less goons, highly skilled and still very well structured...

 

[CHfan1]

Somehow I don't see Slaf lacking confidence...

I don't get all the AHL talk. He will be in the NHL and if he can't crack it, maybe Liiga. I don't think the AHL is a great spot for him.

I don’t think they’ll send him back to Liiga:

 

[Kojo]

He's got a little bit of Messier too in him. They both posted low numbers at 17 years old with a low shooting percentage.