Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 2

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Huh. I feel like ragging him in the media may not be best right now.

I wonder, is there more to that quote?


Yes there is.


But of course people here won’t say that Hughes said they liked him and said he was good in the scrimmages.
 
Some say he looked great and theres no issues
Some say he looked bad but its fine hes gonna be okay
Others say they don't know but he hasn't shown much
Others say he was always a bust

The first group lumps all the other groups together and calls them names
The last group lumps all the other groups together and calls them names

Not really sure man. Nobody in their right mind in here thinks he looks great and there's no issues. Looking great with no issues means he most DEFINATELY starts in the NHL and not only that but on a top 6 role. I keep defending the kid....but there's NO WAY I think that. At the very best, Slaf did fine, wasn't put that much in a position to succeed (read linemates) but HAS things to work on and either could be put on a 4th in the NHL or a top 6 in the AHL. I'm with the latter.
 
Yes there is.


But of course people here won’t say that Hughes said they liked him and said he was good in the scrimmages.

What Kent said...

Is the E-X-A-C-T same thing I have said.

I want apologies, folks.

It is not for Kent Hughes, obviously.

For you it absolutely is.

You would not make the same comments over and over and over again otherwise.

We get it you don’t like him.

What?

Sir, go back and read all of my posts, not just the one you saw 70 years ago where I was probably joking/sarcastic.
 
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He sucks! Suckbustky is his name from now on, or some variation thereof. Future Zubrus for sure.

Now that that's settled, for me, his issues at the NHL level are exactly what I thought they'd be. The game is too fast for him and his IQ isn't up to snuff. More worrying is that he doesn't seem to be trying some of the things that actually did bring him to the dance.

But we'll see. The night is young as they say.
Maybe he's just finding his way, new league, we have to give him some time, I am trusting the powers that be that drafted him. They must have been confident enough in what they saw in him to draft him 1st overall.
 
Maybe he's just finding his way, new league, we have to give him some time, I am trusting the powers that be that drafted him. They must have been confident enough in what they saw in him to draft him 1st overall.
Very much hope so, but I wasn't a fan of the pick to begin with so my trust in the powers that be might start at a lower threshold than most
 
Maybe he's just finding his way, new league, we have to give him some time, I am trusting the powers that be that drafted him. They must have been confident enough in what they saw in him to draft him 1st overall.
The Habs department of player development personel are currently doing a media call and answering questions it seems. They played a little on the Melnick show when it started. Not sure where one can view this if they wanted to take a listen but haven't looked. I guess they're trying to calm many people the f**k down over Slaf. :)
 
The Habs department of player development personel are currently doing a media call and answering questions it seems. They played a little on the Melnick show when it started. Not sure where one can view this if they wanted to take a listen but haven't looked. I guess they're trying to calm many people the f**k down over Slaf. :)

Imagine the absolute meltdown if Slaf busted... and the other top 4-5 or hell, top 10-15, went on to some level of stardom.

Oh boy..........
 
None of those players even played an NHL game til 2 years AFTER they were drafted.

Subban even spent a year in the AHL, and got a 2 game look mid-season.

Caufield 2 years @ NCAA
Price 2 years WHL
Suzuki 2 years OHL
Gallagher 2 years WHL then half a year of AHL (mostly due to lockout)
Subban 2 years OHL, 1 year AHL.

You can add Markov, 2 years Russia.
Plekanec, 1 year Czech League, 3 years AHL (albeit lockout gave him his 3rd year).

In fact, the 2 players who were put into lineup at 18 (Chucky & KK) had the worst development by far.

Draisaitl played 2 years in WHL post-draft
Getzlaf 2 years post draft
Rantanen, 1 year AHL then a 38 pt rookie NHL season.

This was a deep draft for top 9 forwards & top 4D, but isn't a McDavid, Matthews, Stamkos, Tavares, type draft.

All these kids need time to develop, but Slafkovsky has a really good chance of becoming the type of impact player that we'll need. He's part of a future core with Suzuki, Caufield, & our
2023 #1 pick.

Then we hope 1-3 players among Roy, Farrell, Mesar, Beck & Ylonen, and our 2nd 2023 #1 pick, can step into impact top 9 roles to fill out the roster upfront.

Guys like Dach, Heineman & RHP will also have opportunities to grow with the team.

We have no need to rush Slafkovsky, and about million reasons to keep him away from NHL especially this year.

As far as I'm concerned, he's looked good. He's strong on boards, is bullish on his skates, controls the puck well, and is learning quickly on how to play NHL D.

He's shown a hard shot, but needs to disguise his release a little more.

It took Pacioretty 4 years post draft to get his 1st 30 goal season.

Players who step into league and dominate right away are not normal: Crosby, Matthews, McDavid, Patrick Kane are superstar level players.

The reality is Hughes, Lecavalier, Thornton et al, all had struggles their 1st year. MacKinnon had a decent rookie year as a #3 center, but then struggled his next 3 years after that on bad teams. People thought he was a bust.

We've shown no patience with any of our #1 picks taken in top 10, so I disagree with you there too.

It's best for Slafkovsky to grow his game outside of NHL this year.
This is such a fantastic post , best in the whole thread the point is all players are different and we certainly have a special one with Slaf
 
Imagine the absolute meltdown if Slaf busted... and the other top 4-5 or hell, top 10-15, went on to some level of stardom.

Oh boy..........
Wouldn't be the first time nor the last something bad happens to us we will lick our wounds and move on its not some catastrophe if that situation happens like you are making it out to be imo, hell we've done it for 20 years whats the big deal. At the end of the day we are just fans and I feel better with our current management handling this kid than the dinosaurs we had before
Hope is all we have and the kid is 18 there's not much else to do than support the kid at this point and I know all fans want him to be good but there's a difference between being flat out negative and being objective. And I say this as a guy who has probably overhated most of our players throughout the years.
 
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The Habs department of player development personel are currently doing a media call and answering questions it seems. They played a little on the Melnick show when it started. Not sure where one can view this if they wanted to take a listen but haven't looked. I guess they're trying to calm many people the f**k down over Slaf. :)
They're on Canadiens Twitter
 
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Hugues on tsn a couple minutes ago « Slafkovsky has been underwhelming in his first two games ».

Meanwhile, some here : hes been great!

It's a pretty giant leap from "hey it's been 2 pre-season games, he's done some good things and you see the potential" to people saying "he's been great".

Can people, for once, not be hyperbolic and exaggerate positions that further muddy the actual cruxes of the arguments?
 
It's a pretty giant leap from "hey it's been 2 pre-season games, he's done some good things and you see the potential" to people saying "he's been great".

Can people, for once, not be hyperbolic and exaggerate positions that further muddy the actual cruxes of the arguments?
No. Impossible.
 
Wouldn't be the first time nor the last something bad happens to us we will lick our wounds and move on its not some catastrophe if that situation happens like you are making it out to be imo, hell we've done it for 20 years whats the big deal. At the end of the day we are just fans and I feel better with our current management handling this kid than the dinosaurs we had before
Hope is all we have and the kid is 18 there's not much else to do than support the kid at this point and I know all fans want him to be good but there's a difference between being flat out negative and being objective. And I say this as a guy who has probably overhated most of our players throughout the years.

Yes but this one is big...

This is not just missing on Jeff Carter or whomever at #10, this is missing on 1st Overall...

This will sting for the rest of our natural lives; if the worst case scenario happens.
 
Here's a question for the people who are saying Slafkovsky is underwhelming etc.

1. Which prospect from the top 10 of the last draft has shown anything more then Slafkovsky during the camps and preseason games?

2. Which recent 1st overall has had a great preseason and a great first season?
 
Yes but this one is big...

This is not just missing on Jeff Carter or whomever at #10, this is missing on 1st Overall...

This will sting for the rest of our natural lives; if the worst case scenario happens.
I actually respect the opinion I just can't continue being a negative nancy it takes too much out of me after all these years haha
 
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I actually respect the opinion I just can't continue being a negative nancy it takes too much out of me after all these years haha

tbh

I think the reason why I'm so open to joke about it is because I'm really not THAT worried...

We've all seen what Slaf can do on the big stage, and there were flashes at the rookie tournament.

I'm well aware that this isn't his "final form".
 
Here's a question for the people who are saying Slafkovsky is underwhelming etc.

1. Which prospect from the top 10 of the last draft has shown anything more then Slafkovsky during the camps and preseason games?

2. Which recent 1st overall has had a great preseason and a great first season?
You can even argue that last years training camp and pre-season only Matty Beniers looked like he could play in the show. Cole Sillinger at #13 CBJ is the only one to have an impact at the NHL level after their draft year
 
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Here's a question for the people who are saying Slafkovsky is underwhelming etc.

1. Which prospect from the top 10 of the last draft has shown anything more then Slafkovsky during the camps and preseason games?

2. Which recent 1st overall has had a great preseason and a great first season?
1. None.
2. I can’t remember.

I think he’s looked great, he does pinpoint accurate passes, he’s strong as a bull, etc... He could probably be converted to a 4th line grinder in the NHL already. But the step forward now is to score goals and put up points in the NHL.

I’m not saying it’s normal or not normal for him to have not scored in 2 pre-season games, or in 30 games or 2 seasons. When he starts putting up points we’ll know he’s graduated. I prefer it happens sooner than later as a 1OA. And a good time to learn how to, is during pre-season.
 
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Here's a question for the people who are saying Slafkovsky is underwhelming etc.

1. Which prospect from the top 10 of the last draft has shown anything more then Slafkovsky during the camps and preseason games?

2. Which recent 1st overall has had a great preseason and a great first season?
I'd say Wright and Nemec have been better.

Extremely small sample size though
 
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