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Truthfully, most 1OA fwds have above 0.5ppg in their rookie seasons and go from there.
Edit: maybe I’m wrong but that’s how it seems
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Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 2
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Edit: maybe I’m wrong but that’s how it seems
Skip Bayless
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Ummmm every hab fan knows…
When has it hurt a player to spend more time in junior or AHL?
I’m pretty sure having a prospect struggling to survive in the NHL is far worse. We’ve seen it many times.
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The only place he haven't dominated offensively last year is Liiga playing for TPS when he was used on the bottom 6 with grinders playing a defensive trap system. That was about 21 games of his 31 Liiga games. The last 10 (post-olympics), he had a ppg of 0.6. He dominated everywhere else he played last year.
Lookin at the RHP/Beck/Slaf line in scrimmage, Slafkovsky wouldn't be staying long in the AHL if he was sent down.
I'm not a fan of pre-determining that Slafkovsky is gonna play in the AHL before he's even had an opportunity to make the team.
He's your 1st overall pick, you let his performances dictate where he plays. If he plays well enough to make the team out of camp, it would be sending mixed signals to and him down to Laval.
I'm not a fan of rushing things for players but I'm also not a fan of stunting growth and progress.
He's your 1st overall pick, you let his performances dictate where he plays. If he plays well enough to make the team out of camp, it would be sending mixed signals to and him down to Laval.
I'm not a fan of rushing things for players but I'm also not a fan of stunting growth and progress.
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Agreed, treat it objectively. If he legitimately beats out other top 9 forwards for a roster spot, he’s earned it. Only objection is I would not let him stay as a 4th liner. But if he’s getting solid minutes and opportunity to play with top 6 players + PP time and producing reasonably (~0.5ppg) then you keep him up.
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None sense..
People seriously underate his hockey iq.. he may take high risk opportunities sometimes but it doesnt erase all the high level skills he actually can pull off with ease.. among other things.. aside of his body being huge to protect the puck his hands are so skilled he could probably dangle a few player and get out of the corner even if he was smaller.. creating amazing lanes by actracting opposing players .. dont attack and he can burn you anyways.. he is raw for a potential superstar.. but in general head and shoulders above most.. non-pun intended..
The last forward drafted 1st OA to have done so was Nico Hischier. Judging by the names to have been drafted recently, they've mostly disappointed (in the last 5 drafts). But if you look before that, you have incredible players such as McDavid and Matthews that went first overall and who had a ton of success in their rookie years. I don't think looking at the past necessarily is a good indicator of the future. Lafrenière has been lackluster so far, but that doesn't mean he won't step up in the next few years. Jack Hughes came off mediocre rookie and sophomore seasons to show that he can be a star in this league, if only he can stay healthy. I think looking at the draft only shows that there is no sure-fire way of predicting a player's trajectory. Unless you're a special talent, such as McDavid.
I look forward to seeing How Slaf reads the game when he is facing an NHL line up.
Most NHL players don't put out their total effort in the pre season.
I remember Guillaume Latendresse saying how intimidated he was when he stepped on the ice against Buffalo in his first NHL regular season game, the game was so much faster when the pre season ended.
Sh@t isn't real yet for Slaf, it will be soon enough.
Most NHL players don't put out their total effort in the pre season.
I remember Guillaume Latendresse saying how intimidated he was when he stepped on the ice against Buffalo in his first NHL regular season game, the game was so much faster when the pre season ended.
Sh@t isn't real yet for Slaf, it will be soon enough.
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We are so used to busts that I understand every single one of you, from the most pessimistic to the most delusional, and everything in between.
Whatever happens I hope I never get to see Bustkovsky around here.
Whatever happens I hope I never get to see Bustkovsky around here.
Hughes only looks better than Lafreniere because he has been given better opportunities. For the most part Lafreniere has played with buttcracks. Hughes has been given good linemates, 1st line minutes, and PP time.
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I stand corrected….of course this only counts if you’re 18-19yrs of age.No it slides a year if he doesn’t play a minimum of 10 games in the NHL (which I think he does anyways).
Guess we haven’t had too many 18yr olds going to the AHL of late that had played no NHL games.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention
Same, didn't take much to see he had heavy legs, and would struggle to keep up with play.
The habs don’t do development and they had coaches who trashed young guys. They did everything wrong.
For guys like Stamkos or Hughes I wonder if more time at lower levels would have helped.
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Too late : Bustkovsky
Slafbustsky sounds better
The ones who start at 0.5 ppg are pretty ready. I don’t think Hughes, or Stamkos, or some of the other non-stellar 1OAs did.
Non-Therrien coaching seems essential.
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Stamkos nope. Guys had an incredible career outside of a few injuries. Will be a HOF. Hughes too soon to tell but he had a great season last year and he seems on pace to develop as a very good 1st line center at the minimum. Development can be done at the NHL level as long as the player is physically ready and mentally ready and as long as the coach understand that he has a kid in his hands. You can learn to play hockey at the nhl level while playing in the nhl.
I remember Keenan a few years ago apologizing for the way he treated Peter Zezel and while apologizing it was like he did not understand that back then Zezel was just 18 years old. If we keep Bustkovsky in the NHL MSL will have to be patient and defend him when the media complain about his lack of production the same way Gainey defended Brisebois when he was named GM. As long as MSL doesn't Therrien Bustkovsky and the kid is ready to learn and progress this is fine.
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No question those guys are fine. I’m more curious as to whether their first seasons in the NHL helped or hurt. Hitting the NHL later might extend careers, too. The league is way rougher on player’s bodies.
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Don’t start calling him Bustkovsky… don’t go on and put that evil in the air… Slafbustky has a far nicer ring to it anyway
Sagikev
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Bustbustsky!Don’t start calling him Bustkovsky… don’t go on and put that evil in the air… Slafbustky has a far nicer ring to it anyway
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Slafgoalsky even better
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tooji
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I think you should watch these 2 players play. Hughes controls the play when he is on the ice. Laf isn’t close to that yet.
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