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WJC: 2021 Team USA Roster Talk

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zaluty said:
I am not up to date on Canadians coaching in the NCAA but purely from my point of view I would think Major Jr coaches know in tight games which 18-19 year olds will perform with the game on the line whereas a NCAA coach may rely on older players in tight games. I also think Major Jr coaches aren't afraid to move pieces around where what I have seen at the world juniors the American coaches stick pretty much with the lines as they are. Prime example was who scored the gold medal goal last year. Akil Thomas who played limited minutes was out with 3 or 4 minutes left in the game. I also thing the Canadian coaches come with a respect from the players that maybe the NCAA coaches do not but again only my opinion and by no means am I a genius lol
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Well from what I understand, CHL coaches get paid $50-$200k a year, which I believe is much less than what the top NCAA men's coaches get paid. For example, Scott Sandelin makes $400k. Jerry York makes $500+. Even the head coach of Arizona State makes almost $300k.

So the better coaches likely gravitate toward the NCAA in order to make more money.
 
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SK94 said:
Last non NCAA coach for USA U20 team was Ron Wilson in 2016. Our top line was totally gassed when most important games started so i don't have that great memories from 2016 either. 2017 everything clicked and i feel that we really had four good lines who all fulfilled their roles. Personally i always liked Motzko. I feel he really loved the job.

I am happy that most of our top prospects are playing in NCAA these days and i don't see any reason why i should be worried that Leaman is our coach. Motzko was good, Hastings was mostly good so i dont think Sandelin's failure should change our philosophy. Canadians can keep their major juniors and we are focusing on our own thing. USHL -> NCAA route is getting better and better.
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God Ron Wilson was a disaster. I went all the way to Helsinki just to watch him refuse to learn even one russian player's name (let alone scout them)

 
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Fraser1515 said:
I would think it would be due to Robertson not being in the mandated bubble before entering. I believe he is in Toronto training for the season
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He wouldn't have to be in Edmonton with the US team until Sunday. Bob said it's the Leafs deciding if he'll go or not.
 


not a fan of this. Would really suck for us.
There’s not much of an AHL season right away right? And they’re increasing the numbers of roster spots traveling with the team. I don’t see why he has to be ready day 1, and not just work his way onto the team in the first few games
 
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JiggsNY said:
not a fan of this. Would really suck for us.
There’s not much of an AHL season right away right? And they’re increasing the numbers of roster spots traveling with the team. I don’t see why he has to be ready day 1, and not just work his way onto the team in the first few games
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He likely wants to position himself as best as possible for a spot on the main team. That NHL paycheck is no joke and well worth the sacrifice for young players.

I would have liked to see him on Team USA, but I get it.
 
If Robertson doesn't go I'm almost certain it's his decision. And an understandable one, if his only focus is making the team out of camp. He'd likely be at some disadvantage by leaving instead of continuing to train with the Leafs in Toronto.

Personally I'd prefer to see him go, as the Leafs have a lot of bottom 6 options and I'd like to see him be a star at the WJC. But I understand.
 
zaluty said:
I am a Canadian and come in peace. I just have a few questions because I am not all that familiar with the American process.
Who was the last Major Jr A coach to coach the World Junior team?
Is there an American Coach of a Major Junior Team that people might want?
Is there a reason why the program wants a NCAA coach?
What do people think the difference is between a Major Junior and NCAA coach is?

Good luck in the tournament the Americans look strong again this year but I do know if they flame out there will be a lot of discussing of the coaching lol.
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You're right, the U.S.' achilles heel has often been coaching, rather than lack of talent. That said, the U.S. is typically the inverse of the Canadian team. In other words, mostly NCAA or incoming NCAA talent with a smidge of talent from the CHL. Some years there is more CHL content than others, but it's rarely more than four or five names. The coaches available mirror this. Most of the American coaching "talent" is within the NCAA. I would agree that tapping into the USHL or USNTDP more might be a good idea. As for CHL coaches, I just don't think there are very many American coaches in those ranks. In the OHL for instance there are two: Chris Hartsburg w/Erie and Derian Hatcher w/Sarnia (I believe he owns the team). Neither are on USA Hockey's radar at this point. I'm 100% confident it;s the same with the WHL and the QMJHL.
 
Rob Brown said:
He wouldn't have to be in Edmonton with the US team until Sunday. Bob said it's the Leafs deciding if he'll go or not.
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What I was referring to was no additional people were allowed into each countries pre tournament bubble. This seems to be why Sweden can’t add new coaches
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
God Ron Wilson was a disaster. I went all the way to Helsinki just to watch him refuse to learn even one russian player's name (let alone scout them)

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Holy s**t! That answer from Wilson had me flabbergasted, as it did the interviewer. Did he coach NHL games without bothering to look up who was on the other team?! There’s gotta be a middle ground between Wilson’s “I have no idea who our opponents are or how they play” and Christien Wohlwend’s “Our opponents are all studs and we have zero chance!” :laugh:
 
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Statsy said:
Holy s**t! That answer from Wilson had me flabbergasted, as it did the interviewer. Did he coach NHL games without bothering to look up who was on the other team?! There’s gotta be a middle ground between Wilson’s “I have no idea who our opponents are or how they play” and Christien Wohlwend’s “Our opponents are all studs and we have zero chance!” :laugh:
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Yeah the arrogance is astounding. USA lost right after this to Russia in the semis . . .
 
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Statsy said:
Holy s**t! That answer from Wilson had me flabbergasted, as it did the interviewer. Did he coach NHL games without bothering to look up who was on the other team?! There’s gotta be a middle ground between Wilson’s “I have no idea who our opponents are or how they play” and Christien Wohlwend’s “Our opponents are all studs and we have zero chance!” :laugh:
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I have to believe that answer was more rhetoric than factual. Having seen Ron Wilson at a few coaching clinics he was fairly meticulous and detail oriented. There's no way he didn't pre-scout an opponent.
 
My USA predicted lines based on the news of Boldy-Beniers-Caufield as a line. (Also if Robertson is made available)
Zegras - Turcotte - Robertson
Boldy - Beniers - Caufield
Kaliyev - Bordeleau- Brink
Farinacci- Beecher- Moynihan

Extra: Brisson + Berard

My lines :
Boldy - Zegras - Robertson
Caufield- Turcotte- Brink
Kaliyev - Beniers - Bordeleau
Beecher - Farinacci - Moynihan

Extra: Brisson + Berard
Cuts: Colangelo - Slaggert

Could argue Brisson slides in for Moynihan. But I think Moynihan is an absolute pest on the forecheck where Brisson is a little reserved but could easily be swayed into thinking that Brisson would be a better fit as a finisher at that spot.

Defenseman :

York - Thrun
Sanderson - Helleson
Johnson - Kleven
Lacombe - Skinner

Cuts: Faber - McDonald

Think the top four are going to have to log a lot of minutes.

Should be interesting to see how it shakes out though.
 
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