WC: 2021 Sweden Roster Talk

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This team should have comfortably beaten both Denmark and Belarus..

It is partly the fact these top teams have their B, C or D teams and these countries like Belarus, Latvia and Kazakstan really have developed and they have teams full of KHL players now. But yes, Sweden should have won these matches just like Finland should have beaten Kazakstan and Canada should have beaten Latvia.

The differance between the rosters is simply not that big this year. You could swap Latvia's top six with Canada's bottom six, and Canada would become stronger on paper. Half of Sweden's team is interchangable with half of Denmark's or Belarus'. That wouldn't be the case in a normal year.

Yes, Sweden, Canada and Finland should and would still win these games most of the time. But not "comfortably".
 
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Hopefully Johansson and Fröden in the lineup next game.

Yeah, the defence hasn't worked at all, I think both Sellgren and Johansson should get looks.

Maybe something like this:

Nils Lundqvist - Klas Dahlbeck
Henrik Tömmernes - Jesper Sellgren
Lawrence Pilut - Albert Johansson

A. Kempe - Lindberg - Rakell
Hållander - Rasmussen - Olofsson
Frödén - Wingerli - Sörensen
Friberg - Lindholm - M. Kempe (if Klingberg can't play)
 
The differance between the rosters is simply not that big this year. You could swap Latvia's top six with Canada's bottom six, and Canada would become stronger on paper. Half of Sweden's team is interchangable with half of Denmark's or Belarus'. But that's simply not the case this year.

Yes, Sweden, Canada and Finland should and would still win these games most of the time. But not "comfortably".

Yeah, you're right. Comfortably is probably bit of an overstatement. These solid KHL squads are pretty competitive with the teams of Finland and Sweden where a lot of the players are from SHL, KHL, Liiga and the Swiss leagues anyway.. it would be different if was best on best, I think the top 5 or 6 would still be pretty much as markedly ahead as in the past Olympics etc.

Makes this tournament more exciting in a way I guess. Kinda rooting for either Germany or Switzerland to have their first gold..
 
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I hope to not see Lööv any more in this tournament unless there is a major injury crisis. Olofsson should be on a short leash, he was brought in to be the goal scorer, but he hasn't even been close so far and is not contributing in any other way. The Switzerland game is a must win, 0 points from that game and chances at QF is looking slim, the team also needs a win for the confidence. But the Swiss are looking really, really good. Is this the first time in hockey history that Switzerland enters a game versus Sweden as huge favorites?
 
I hope to not see Lööv any more in this tournament unless there is a major injury crisis. Olofsson should be on a short leash, he was brought in to be the goal scorer, but he hasn't even been close so far and is not contributing in any other way. The Switzerland game is a must win, 0 points from that game and chances at QF is looking slim, the team also needs a win for the confidence. But the Swiss are looking really, really good. Is this the first time in hockey history that Switzerland enters a game versus Sweden as huge favorites?

Loov saved a sure goal against Belarus and Oloffsson, though barely visible, still a threat and will be definitely more useful than Mario Kempe or some other players. This team lacks character but it equally lacks skills. And skills are tougher to find
 
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Regarding Lööv, he was actually good in EHT.


I would go with>

Reidenborn

Dahlbeck - Lundkvist
Sellgren - Nygren
Pilut - Albert Johansson

A. Kempe - Lindberg - Rakell
Lundeström - Rasmussen - Olofsson (i think Lundeström might be a better fit as a winger actually)
Hållander - Wingerli - Frödén
Friberg - Lindholm - Sörensen

I dont get what people see in Mario Kempe. He is a terrible player. Im not counting on C.Klingberg due to injury.
 
Lööv was pretty bad at EHTs.

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The differance between the rosters is simply not that big this year. You could swap Latvia's top six with Canada's bottom six, and Canada would become stronger on paper. Half of Sweden's team is interchangable with half of Denmark's or Belarus'. That wouldn't be the case in a normal year.

Yes, Sweden, Canada and Finland should and would still win these games most of the time. But not "comfortably".

Disagree, Latvian Top 6 is def worse than Canadian bottom 6. Swedish roster is not interchangeable with Belarus, it is also far from truth. Aside from Sharangovich and imports they are not good
 
Disagree, Latvian Top 6 is def worse than Canadian bottom 6. Swedish roster is not interchangeable with Belarus, it is also far from truth. Aside from Sharangovich and imports they are not good

Canada has several players on this roster who are AHL players, or who's only had a taste of the NHL so far in their career. Daugavins and even Kenins have more NHL experience then some of them. Abols AHL/SHL numbers match some of those on the Canadian roster, and he could just as well have seen NHL time with the Panthers. The fact that he didn't has more to do with coincidence/oppourtunity than actual ability.

Indrasis would surely have signed a NHL contract years ago had it not been for the KHL giving him more money/security. Bukarts could also play on a 4th line in the NHL and would not look out of place. Okay, maybe they are not an upgrade, but they are completely interchangable with the likes of Danforth, Anderson-Dolan, Foudy and Pirri. Canada has some talented kids, sure, but they have yet to establish themselves in the NHL. They have a bright future, but are not there yet. Even guys who had good rookie showings in the NHL, such as Bunting and Hagel, are not yet established.

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As for Belarus, several of their defenseman are interchangable with several on team Sweden. But yeah, overall, I made an exeggeration.

All in all though, I stand by my opinion. The differance between the traditionally strong nations bottom portion of rosters, and the upper portion of weaker nations rosters, is so small this year that it's basically non-existent in any singular game. When we sit here on HFboards, and discuss which NHL player is better than the other, we usually do it while looking at their impact on a 82 game season + playoffs. But in just one game game? As a Ducks fan, I can say that the likes of Grant and Rowney often outperforms Henrique or Rakell.

Similarly, a good European league based player, is gonna outperform a bottom six NHL'er quite often in just one game. And a medium Euro league player is gonna outperform a good Euro league player. Add in other facts, such as the smaller nations having more line chemistry, and that hockey is a sport of bounces and where goaltending and special teams plays a huge role in any singular game, it's no surprise the tournament has gone like this.

The only nations in this tournament, on paper, who should be completely run over by the big nations, are Italy and Great Britain. But so far, even they handle themselves quite well.

Yeah, I didn't expect THIS many "upsets", but I sure expected a lot of close games. It's not a coincidence that Germany almost won gold in 2018. The prerequisites are similar now.
 
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I hope to not see Lööv any more in this tournament unless there is a major injury crisis. Olofsson should be on a short leash, he was brought in to be the goal scorer, but he hasn't even been close so far and is not contributing in any other way. The Switzerland game is a must win, 0 points from that game and chances at QF is looking slim, the team also needs a win for the confidence. But the Swiss are looking really, really good. Is this the first time in hockey history that Switzerland enters a game versus Sweden as huge favorites?
Olofsson hasn't been able to use his one timer at all. Passing is horrendously bad and there are no other shooter options on PP. Not an easy feat to score considering how predictable that PP is. Olofsson needs bodies in front at the very least. But who is doing the dirty work? Where's the God damn grit and determination to win? I Belarus has a goalie that can win games for them, antagonize him! Get in his face! Wussy garbage hockey we've been forced to watch.
 
The roster is now closed for any more additions. Nils Höglander has declined. Hållander, Frödén, Johansson and Sellgren to be registered

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I don't have access to the full article, but why is the theoretical 1 place open not available?

Oilers are out, Larsson.
Nashville could be going, Ekholm, Forsberg.
There are a couple more that I would probably also think could improve the roster, but the above mentioned I think are obvious if available.


Maybe this has been discussed already, sorry I am too disconnected this year so I have not been following closely at all.
 
I don't have access to the full article, but why is the theoretical 1 place open not available?

Oilers are out, Larsson.
Nashville could be going, Ekholm, Forsberg.
There are a couple more that I would probably also think could improve the roster, but the above mentioned I think are obvious if available.


Maybe this has been discussed already, sorry I am too disconnected this year so I have not been following closely at all.

They have since updated the article. There is one slot open, but Garpenlöv isn't counting on any reinforcements.
 
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Is there any official updates for todays lineup? Especially interested in the defensive pairs
 
Bettson has Switzerland as a favourite against Sweden 2.31 vs 2.71. That is kind of rare, and a bit odd? 2.71 on Sweden in regulation is a sweet bet.
 

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