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Draft 2021 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agent Thread

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I Eat Crow said:
Shesterkin is sneakily going to be 26 next season. He's been good when healthy. Those last two words are key. While he does not have a significant injury history, two significant injuries, one off and one on ice in the past two years does give me some concern about his long term durability. Not a significant concern, but enough so that the Rangers will need to have a backup plan in mind. Wall, Lindbolm, nor Ollas are the goalie of the future. Doubtful Garand is either. Wallstedt is just about one of the more sure things to come along in the past decade. The Rangers would be foolish to pass him up if he's available at 15, and I'm not a fan either of taking goalies in the 1st round. While there is no immediate need, long term solutions in goal are a weakness in the system.
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Agreed. I’m not crazy about first round goalies, but there are exceptions to every rule. I doubt TB is regretting drafting their Stanley Cup winning goalie in the 1st.
 
I do hope Drury is aggressive. If there's a prospect they really like, they go and get him.

Lucius, Raty, McTavish, Svechkov, Johnson, Pinelli etc

We're at the point where we need to be more selective. We need certain/specific pieces to finish the puzzle.

We have too much future talent, never thought this would be a thing for the New York Rangers... but we are anemic at center.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
Shesterkin is sneakily going to be 26 next season. He's been good when healthy. Those last two words are key. While he does not have a significant injury history, two significant injuries, one off and one on ice in the past two years does give me some concern about his long term durability. Not a significant concern, but enough so that the Rangers will need to have a backup plan in mind. Wall, Lindbolm, nor Ollas are the goalie of the future. Doubtful Garand is either. Wallstedt is just about one of the more sure things to come along in the past decade. The Rangers would be foolish to pass him up if he's available at 15, and I'm not a fan either of taking goalies in the 1st round. While there is no immediate need, long term solutions in goal are a weakness in the system.
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And if Shesty locks down the job for the next 8 years, which is entirely possible, what are we doing with Wallstedt 3 or 4 years from now? I'm just not sure I see the point of taking a G in the 1st round when our new starter just started. Goalies generally have little value so it seems like a waste to invest top draft picks in them unless you don't like what you have on your team.
 
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broadwayblue said:
And if Shesty locks down the job for the next 8 years, which is entirely possible, what are we doing with Wallstedt 3 or 4 years from now? I'm just not sure I see the point of taking a G in the 1st round when our new starter just started. Goalies generally have little value so it seems like a waste to invest top draft picks in them unless you don't like what you have on your team.
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Goalies have value, under the right circumstances. Goalies with no term or bad contracts don’t have value.
 
Barnaby said:
It’s probably a moot point anyway as he should be gone, but you don’t trade your mid 20’s top 10 goalie and trade him off because you just drafted an 18 year old whose likely 4-5 years away and no guarantee. Drafting is important but they aren’t focused on not making the playoffs until 2028
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I don’t see Wallstedt being 4/5 years away. At 17 he was already a very good SHL goalie this year. That’s top notch competition for a teenager to be excelling in already. Better competition than Spencer Knight had to face or Askarov in his draft year when he played in the VHL not the KHL.
 
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broadwayblue said:
And if Shesty locks down the job for the next 8 years, which is entirely possible, what are we doing with Wallstedt 3 or 4 years from now? I'm just not sure I see the point of taking a G in the 1st round when our new starter just started. Goalies generally have little value so it seems like a waste to invest top draft picks in them unless you don't like what you have on your team.
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It’s a good problem to have. You recycle those assets. No reason Igor and Wallstedt can’t split duty until it becomes an issue. There is also a big age gap there. I think people assume Igor is younger than he is
 
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eco's bones said:
I don’t see Wallstedt being 4/5 years away. At 17 he was already a very good SHL goalie this year. That’s top notch competition for a teenager to be excelling in already. Better competition than Spencer Knight had to face or Askarov in his draft year when he played in the VHL not the KHL.
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Fair enough, you can say 2-3 years away. I can’t remember the last 18 year old goalie to come set the world on fire. You certainly aren’t going to trade Shesterkin while Wallstedt would be 18-19 years old. Ideally, you probably like a year or two where you have both. Obviously, you have Dolan who wants to start winning now. Trading off your starting goalie isn’t happening short term with or without Wallstedt.
 
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Savant said:
It’s a good problem to have. You recycle those assets. No reason Igor and Wallstedt can’t split duty until it becomes an issue. There is also a big age gap there. I think people assume Igor is younger than he is
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Agreed. The kid is, what, 17 right now? Soon to be 18. Pretty decent age gap there.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I'm never a fan of drafting goalies early due to positional value, but at some point the draft value is too much to pass up. Wallstedt at 15 checks that box for me.
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Yep.

Shesty has one, only one cost controlled year remaining.

A lot of the guys mid first round this year are projected as second liners and second pairing defensemen at the absolute maximum. Raty is a huge question mark.

If the choice is between Wally and Cole Sillinger I know who I’m placing my chips on
 
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Kournianos was doing an AMA on Twitter earlier. Got a question regarding the Rangers at 15. His reply:

"Best-case scenario for Rangers is one of the few premier centers are available -- Svechkov, Johnson, Sillinger, McTavish, maybe even Bolduc."
 
Mugless said:
Kournianos was doing an AMA on Twitter earlier. Got a question regarding the Rangers at 15. His reply:

"Best-case scenario for Rangers is one of the few premier centers are available -- Svechkov, Johnson, Sillinger, McTavish, maybe even Bolduc."
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Pretty much a guarantee that at least one of Svechkov, Sillinger, or Bolduc will be there.

That's the first time I've heard them referred to as "premiere" centres though.
 
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Last 10 drafts:

5 drafts with no first round goalies.
3 drafts with one first round goalie.
2 drafts with two first round goalies.

Of all the goalies taken in the first round in the last 10 years only one didn't play in the NHL this year Mark Visentin.

Recently first-round goalies have a pretty good track record, and it seems like this is one of the few subjects that NHL personnel and the regular fan seem to agree with.
 
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Harbour Dog said:
Pretty much a guarantee that at least one of Svechkov, Sillinger, or Bolduc will be there.

That's the first time I've heard them referred to as "premiere" centres though.
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Totally agree.

What's the verdict on Sillinger? Will he be a center? Or is it just not possible to truly predict at this point?
 
Savant said:
It’s a good problem to have. You recycle those assets. No reason Igor and Wallstedt can’t split duty until it becomes an issue. There is also a big age gap there. I think people assume Igor is younger than he is
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I'm also concerned about Igor staying healthy. If Wallstedt is there at 15 you gotta take him.
He's that good.
 
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Savant said:
I’m not concerned about Igor at all.

It’s all about Wallstedt
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Yeah, not sure where this talk of health concerns is coming from. Guy was in a car accident and broke his rib. Other than that he pulled a groin one time and the injury was actually a lot less severe than many of us were expecting.

If Wallstedt is the next HOF goaltender I guess I'm ok taking him at 15. ;)
 
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eco's bones said:
I don’t see Wallstedt being 4/5 years away. At 17 he was already a very good SHL goalie this year. That’s top notch competition for a teenager to be excelling in already. Better competition than Spencer Knight had to face or Askarov in his draft year when he played in the VHL not the KHL.
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Knight is very good. Askarov is better than him. Wallstedt is far better than both of them. Best goalie prospect in the last 25 years or so, IMO. What he is doing at his age is phenomenal.
 
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Harbour Dog said:
Pretty much a guarantee that at least one of Svechkov, Sillinger, or Bolduc will be there.

That's the first time I've heard them referred to as "premiere" centres though.
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Feels like Bolduc is sliding. Not loving Sillinger's game. Very realistic that Svechkov will be around.
 
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