2021 Florida Panthers off-season thread. Free Agent Frenzy July 28th

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

This is exactly how I feel about Vatrano.

It's not "hate" or "cutting him up." It's just stating what I see as fact. The guy is often a ghost and is going to get a raise soon.

Our former GM would have seen this as an opportunity to pay up before the time came, blocking a younger player. Our new GM will get someone better or let a young guy step into a role.

This is where I'm confused. Saying he's not a part of the longterm plan is fine (in fact I would agree). But you said you would attach a 3rd to him in exchange for a 6th. That's literally a Tallon expansion draft move. Actually, Vatrano had a better year than Smith in 2017.

If you're trading a guy who scored 20+ goals (over an 82 game pace) for 3 straight years and is making next to no money at 2.5 million, the return better be multiple mid round picks or one of the dmen they take.

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

This is where I'm confused. Saying he's not a part of the longterm plan is fine (in fact I would agree). But you said you would attach a 3rd to him in exchange for a 6th. That's literally a Tallon expansion draft move. Actually, Vatrano had a better year than Smith in 2017.

If you're trading a guy who scored 20+ goals (over an 82 game pace) for 3 straight years and is making next to no money at 2.5 million, the return better be multiple mid round picks or one of the dmen they take.

I didn't say what I wanted to do, but what we may/could do. It's my fault if I didn't make that clear.

My quote -
"This doesn't appear to be the case. Maybe we give Vatrano and a 3rd for a 6th or something? IDK. Weird speculation by Seravalli now that I listened to the clip."

I agree we should get something back for Vatrano, and should not have to pay to move him. But we also didn't need to pay to move Smith and March, and we paid to move both in an expansion draft. We even attached a pick to them.

I trust Zito a hell of a lot more than Tallon, but I do not think Vatrano returns Dunn or Bean.

I'm happy people are optimistic about our GM making moves/the return we may get, but I'm still damaged goods after the last expansion draft.

I am happy Vatrano being moved is being explored, tho. That is very clear already. But we should not be paying to move him.

 

[BabyBennettov]

Not necessarily.

Assume a combined 20 million between Eichel and Barkov. That would put the Panthers at 67 million in cap used. Leaving roughly 13.8 million to fill the rest of the roster.



They'd need to sign 2 d-men
and 6 forwards. (or if you jettison Hornqvist, it creates another 5.5 million in space)

It wouldn't be easy, but it is absolutely doable. Clearing Hornqvist's deal would be an absolute must though.

You’re forgetting Bennett’s new deal too…

Trading Hornqvist or having 14M to sign 8 players isn’t cap-hell… Yeah okay lol

Is it doable ? Absolutely ! Easy ? Nope.

Eichel is a dumb and selfish hockey player, that will need surgery to repair a herniated disk… Don’t understand some of the love around here to get our hands on that guy !

Having TWO top-10 center isn’t my way of winning a Cup… But hey, others can see it differently !

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Kerfoot to Kraken selection video leaked.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Kerfoot to Kraken selection video leaked.

How did that fish got a hold of inside information?

 

[drktmplr12]

Kerfoot to Kraken selection video leaked.

i know pike place is all about that fish throwing, but the little donut stand right behind the cameraman in that clip *kiss fingers* just right

 

[Panteras]

i know pike place is all about that fish throwing, but the little donut stand right behind the cameraman in that clip *kiss fingers* just right

It’s actually not just about the fish throwing. That section is rather a very very small portion of the market lol

 

[Beezeral]

You’re forgetting Bennett’s new deal too…

Trading Hornqvist or having 14M to sign 8 players isn’t cap-hell… Yeah okay lol

Is it doable ? Absolutely ! Easy ? Nope.

Eichel is a dumb and selfish hockey player, that will need surgery to repair a herniated disk… Don’t understand some of the love around here to get our hands on that guy !

Having TWO top-10 center isn’t my way of winning a Cup… But hey, others can see it differently !

I was assuming Bennett would not stay with the org if eichel was brought in.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

I was assuming Bennett would not stay with the org if eichel was brought in.

I would actually think Huberdeau would be the odd one out.

 

[BabyBennettov]

I was assuming Bennett would not stay with the org if eichel was brought in.

Then your plan is even worse than I thought !

 

[floridada]

Insider Trading: Canadiens await Seattle decision on Price

About a dozen teams asking about Garland, and the price is going to be high.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Stralman to Coyotes indeed has been discussed.

"I suspect the Panthers would have to throw in a pick to unload Stralman’s contract, so this would fit the pattern with Coyotes GM Bill Armstrong thinking outside the box. He collected three picks from the Islanders on Saturday while taking on Andrew Ladd’s contract."

LeBrun: Kraken's Carey Price decision? Gabriel Landeskog's contract demands? Kirill Kaprizov's KHL offer?

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I'm always on team chaos so I would love to see Price get taken but I just don't get the logic from the Krak to do that. Bishop provides veteran depth at a fraction of the cost and they could take a flier on Vanecek and Kahkonen

 

[KW]

I'm always on team chaos so I would love to see Price get taken but I just don't get the logic from the Krak to do that. Bishop provides veteran depth at a fraction of the cost and they could take a flier on Vanecek and Kahkonen

Agreed. One time when price is not right. (Okay bad joke.)

 

[Prominence Problem]

What time is the expansion draft?

8pm EST

 

[Gentle Man]

I'm always on team chaos so I would love to see Price get taken but I just don't get the logic from the Krak to do that. Bishop provides veteran depth at a fraction of the cost and they could take a flier on Vanecek and Kahkonen

Copy cat league.

They see their "MAF" in price

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Kraken sign Larsson. 4 years @ 4mil

Wouldn't have mind bringing him in if we needed another RD, but 4 years is more than I would give.

 

[Ghoste]

That’s too bad. I wanted Jamie.

-ghoste

 

[ProjectPanthers]

That’s too bad. I wanted Jamie.

-ghoste

Decent start for this franchise, those are two solid guys to have on your back end.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

That’s too bad. I wanted Jamie.

-ghoste

Zito might be trading Vatrano for Oleksiak but then I wouldn't trade any sort of pick(s) alongside of Frankie.

 

[Beezeral]

Zito might be trading Vatrano for Oleksiak but then I wouldn't trade any sort of pick(s) alongside of Frankie.

that makes zero sense for Zito or Seattle to do.

Better off just waiting for Oleksiak to hit UFA and sign him then.

 

[SoupyFIN]

It could just as well be a 3-way trade.

Seattle gets Vatrano
Team X gets player Y Seattle picked
Florida gets team X's player Z or pick/prospect

GM's are notoriously stubborn for not trading within the division, this could be one of those cases.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

that makes zero sense for Zito or Seattle to do.

Better off just waiting for Oleksiak to hit UFA and sign him then.

How Oleksiak would hit the FA if Seattle picks and signs him immediately?

 

[Beezeral]

How Oleksiak would hit the FA if Seattle picks and signs him immediately?

because Oleksiak wouldn't sign with Seattle if he really wants to go to Florida. He would just sign with Florida on the 28th...

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

Lots of spoilers on Twitter, in case anyone is waiting for the draft to see things.

I guess you wouldn't be here if you were avoiding spoilers, but still - fair warning.