2021 Expansion Draft Discussion

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

So was literally all of our Defensemen not named Faulk, and unlike Krug he’s not on a potential albatross of a contract unlike Krug. And if we are exposing Tank as some sort of move to try to tempt them away from Dunn when we could just protect Dunn instead and let them take there pick of the iffy contracts.

If this is a “we can’t move Tarasenko without giving more then we are adding” thing, cool, but I don’t buy this as a “maybe they won’t take Dunn” move because there’s an easier solution in front of us.

If club exposes him it’s bc they value Krug way more. I’d probably expose Krug personally bc I dont think kraken would take him and if they did we get lots of cap space.

 

[HighNote]

I view Dunn can easily be Krug in few years or even better. I'm high on Walman too.

Krug should be exposed instead of Dunn.

This team is in win now mode, and Krug helps the team win now more than Dunn does. The goal is to knock Krug down to the 2nd pairing so our top 4 looks like this:

X - Parayko
Krug - Faulk

I'd say there is a 90% chance Krug is protected.

Edit, wrong guy haha.

 

[EL Bandito]

This stings a bit as Vladdy is one of my all-time favorites. Can't believe how toxic the relationship has become.

What if Army worked out that Tarasenko will be taken and the best "trade" out there winded up being Tarasenko with no rention for a quality young dman in Vince Dunn?

How many teams do you think are offering 24yr old top 4 potential dmen straight up for Tarasenko right now? So it could've come down to Dunn vs whatever teams were offering. Idk, just trying make sense of all of this.

 

[Louie the Blue]

Based on what? He is nearly 25 and has never shown that level of offensive acumen?

And not like team cut him. Guys we would protect instead are quite good.

He put up 30+ points as a 3D.

He hasn’t been given much opportunity to be top 4 pairing while Shattenkirk and Krug were. I don’t dislike Krug, but Dunn hasn’t shown he can’t be a top 4 pairing yet.

 

[Ranksu]

If Tarasenko is take by Seattle, can Tarasenko deny he will go there?

 

[BlueDream]

If Tarasenko is take by Seattle, can Tarasenko deny he will go there?

No. He doesn’t have a NMC, only can block trades.

 

[Ranksu]

This team is in win now mode, and Krug helps the team win now more than Dunn does. The goal is to knock Krug down to the 2nd pairing so our top 4 looks like this:

X - Pietrangelo
Krug - Faulk

I'd say there is a 90% chance Krug is protected.

Army has said between lines at press Krug will be protected.

And no we arent win mode. We are bubble team currently.

I love how you included Pietro.

And I get a joke.

 

[DoubleK81]

If Tarasenko is take by Seattle, can Tarasenko deny he will go there?

He can retire, thats about it.

 

[TK 421]

Personally I'm not upset about anything yet since there's so much we as fans are in the dark about. Seattle probably still takes Dunn and the Blues trade Tarasenko sometime before the season starts. So many moving pieces and considerations this offseason that it's tough for me to be in a place to judge until the dust settles.

 

[Ranksu]

 

[Novacain]

They aren’t releasing the lists till tomorrow apparently, and there will be no trades today.

 

[HighNote]

Army has said between lines at press Krug will be protected.

And no we arent win mode. We are bubble team currently.

What I mean is that the goal is to be a Cup contender now and in the near future. We have too many key players that are 28-34 years old.

 

[Ranksu]

Personally I'm not upset about anything yet since there's so much we as fans are in the dark about. Seattle probably still takes Dunn and the Blues trade Tarasenko sometime before the season starts. So many moving pieces and considerations this offseason that it's tough for me to be in a place to judge until the dust settles.

+1.

I'm just sad we didnt trade away Bozak, Hoffman. Trade at least their rights now.

 

[TK 421]

+1.

I'm just sad we didnt trade away Bozak, Hoffman. Trade at least their rights now.

Sounds like Bozak and the Blues may work something out.

 

[Robb_K]

Personally I'm not upset about anything yet since there's so much we as fans are in the dark about. Seattle probably still takes Dunn and the Blues trade Tarasenko sometime before the season starts. So many moving pieces and considerations this offseason that it's tough for me to be in a place to judge until the dust settles.

Seattle takes Dunn. Blues trade Tarasenko for a forward prospect and a draft choice (we'll feel cheated by that trade). We'll feel better when Blues use savings from Tarasenko's salary to sign Landeskog.

 

[Ranksu]

What I mean is that the goal is to be a Cup contender now and in the near future. We have too many key players that are 28-34 years old.

Well that ship has sailed.

After Pietro out and acquire Krug and Faulk anchor contracts our d-core is so weak now. Parayko cant carry both of them. Faulk played better, but his first 25 games were 'hot hot' and then he cooled down, playing his normal level.

And I was right.

When schedule came tougher Faulk's game went south.

Still ppl dont recognize it here. Makes me sick.

We arent Cup contenders. We are Cup pretenders.

Yet again I'm alone with this thought.

We will see next season where we are at. I view how our team is build we fight last Wild card spot in our div.

Bubble team.

 

[Mike Liut]

Seattle takes Dunn. Blues trade Tarasenko for a forward prospect and a draft choice (we'll feel cheated by that trade). We'll feel better when Blues use savings from Tarasenko's salary to sign Landeskog.

This is what I’m hoping for

 

[TK 421]

Seattle takes Dunn. Blues trade Tarasenko for a forward prospect and a draft choice (we'll feel cheated by that trade). We'll feel better when Blues use savings from Tarasenko's salary to sign Landeskog.

I have to tell you Robb, I'm not sure these pieces being shuffled around makes any difference if they don't address the defense personnel but I'd be excited about Landeskog even if the contract we'd have to give him would make me mad.

 

[Mike Liut]

Well that ship has sailed.

After Pietro out and acquire Krug and Faulk anchor contracts our d-core is so weak now. Parayko cant carry both of them. Faulk played better, but his first 25 games were 'hot hot' and then he cooled down, playing his normal level.

And I was right.

When schedule came tougher Faulk's game went south.

Still ppl dont recognize it here. Makes me sick.

We arent Cup contenders. We are Cup pretenders.

Yet again I'm alone with this thought.

We will see next season where we are at. I view how our team is build we fight last Wild card spot in our div.

Bubble team.

our D would have looked much better with a healthy Parayko.

 

[Louie the Blue]

our D would have looked much better with a healthy Parayko.

I also didn’t get the criticism for Faulk.

His contract shouldn’t be albatross like Krug’s.

 

[HighNote]

Well that ship has sailed.

After Pietro out and acquire Krug and Faulk anchor contracts our d-core is so weak now. Parayko cant carry both of them. Faulk played better, but his first 25 games were 'hot hot' and then he cooled down, playing his normal level.

And I was right.

When schedule came tougher Faulk's game went south.

Still ppl dont recognize it here. Makes me sick.

We arent Cup contenders. We are Cup pretenders.

Yet again I'm alone with this thought.

We will see next season where we are at. I view how our team is build we fight last Wild card spot in our div.

Bubble team.

Whether you think we can contend for a Cup or not is irrelevant. Whether you like it or not, we are trying to win now.

 

[Ranksu]

Whether you think we can contend for a Cup or not is irrelevant. Whether you like it or not, we are trying to win now.

How Army play his cards it makes it sooner us re-build mode.

But yeah. How Army and Stillman have said they want team to be competitive. But if you downgrade team roster it wont be win mode.

Pretenders.

I just hope understand what we are and try to re-tool. Think future and not burn everything in fools hope.

 

[Novacain]

our D would have looked much better with a healthy Parayko.

Colt is a 28 year old 6’6 defensemen with a nagging back thing and a game that depends on speed, who hasn’t performed like a top flight shutdown player in 2 seasons.

There is a pretty good chance what we saw late last year is “a healthy Parayko” going forward.

 

[Mike Liut]

Colt is a 28 year old 6’6 defensemen with a nagging back thing and a game that depends on speed, who hasn’t performed like a top flight shutdown player in 2 seasons.

There is a pretty good chance what we saw late last year is “a healthy Parayko” going forward.

I hope not. Hopefully he gets it taken care of. But you may be right. Backs are tricky