NyQuil
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Hey, I'll have you know that those 13 skaters that Germany had were the best un-infected German players on the continent under the age of 20.
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Hey, I'll have you know that those 13 skaters that Germany had were the best un-infected German players on the continent under the age of 20.
US wasn t on different level like Finland(Looking Semis). Finland is competitive. Whatever how good the Teams are. Finland is Finland!
4thlineduster
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I never said anything of the sort that they are embarrassing. We lost a single elimination game. It happens.
I just merely pointed out a fact as it drives me nuts when people refer to these players as kids.....they aren’t.
They are. Kids don't magically become mature adults when they turn 18. Their psyche, ability to process information and other cognitive skills still very much evolve into the early 20s.
Dicky113
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Your “newsflash” is actually a brilliant point I hadn’t thought of.
Thanks
Kids dont magically turn into adults on their 18th birthday. Most arent even legal to have alcohol.
Peiskos
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We won 15’, 18’ and 20’ gold with uber talented rosters and were a measly shootout away from 17’ gold.
The physicality is still there but this isn’t the 70’s anymore, you can’t just muscle and bully your way to gold anymore.
Need to have depth and skill throughout the lineup which Canada has, just can’t win every year. Canada will have to settle for winning every few years which I see nothing to complain about.
I don’t know how anyone can say USA was dominant and outplayed us....
they were outshot and spend almost the entire 3rd in their zone and mustered up one shot. It’s not like they owned the first 5 minutes of the 1st.
yes they had a good 20 minute stretch, followed by the rest being 50-50.
that’s not dominant though but sure...
they were outshot and spend almost the entire 3rd in their zone and mustered up one shot. It’s not like they owned the first 5 minutes of the 1st.
yes they had a good 20 minute stretch, followed by the rest being 50-50.
that’s not dominant though but sure...
NyQuil
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Teams play differently with the lead.
We were outshot by the Czechs when we had the lead.
When they did all the necessary damage we were getting dominated.
JackSlater
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I'm surprised to see that spin so early. USA clearly outplayed Canada in that game. Generated the best sustained pressure and chances in the first, took advantage of Canada scrambling in the second before splitting the period, then parked the bus and allowed barely a thing in the third. There are times when the losing team outplays the winning team but this isn't one. There also isn't need to retroactively slag the team due to a poor final game against a team that played a strong game and looked very prepared. That was a good Canadian team Yes, it failed as it didn't win the tournament but it was still a good team.
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Canada had 1 shot in the first 13 minutes of the 2nd period. It was a puck dumped on Knight from the blueline during a change.
The one thing I noticed from watching Team Canada is the only players that had chemistry were your 1st defense pair. None of the forwards seemed to know what the others were doing. Lots of solo efforts to pull off stuff, think that’s on the coaching not to find lines that gelled better.
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If you're already down by 2 goals and you can't register one shot on goal in a 13 minute stretch, you're getting dominated.
Canada was definitely out coached. The coach never kept the lines together for any familiarity. Of course their is tweaking the lines. Here is an example Perfetti and Suzuki play on the same line in Saginaw and never played together once. Stick a winger with them and let it ride.
Full credit to the USA they did what it took and played a hell of a game. Their best players were better than ours. The Canadian coach had his favorites and kept playing them until the 3rd period then finally starting playing some other players.
Full credit to the USA they did what it took and played a hell of a game. Their best players were better than ours. The Canadian coach had his favorites and kept playing them until the 3rd period then finally starting playing some other players.
malcb33
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You're right, however, the US strategically dominated IMO. They played a very defensively sound game after scoring, limited Canada's scoring opportunities and relied on their top goaltending.
Canada couldn't adjust on the fly and create enough opportunities from the middle of the ice. I think if it was a 3/5 game series Canada would still win, but it's not. The US played a pro-style playoff-type game and they deserved to win that game. Andre Tourigny was outcoached in that game IMO.
Judas Tavares
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The best team ever narrative was troubling. On paper, great team, better than some gold medal teams in the past 15 years. But as good as it looked, I felt it had some tough competition with '05, '09 and '15.
Every Canadian player looks like a surefire NHLer until they are the next Ryan O'Marra or Stefan Della Rovere. But it will be years before we can judge if the team was full of future duds or if it happens to be a team full of NHLers that underachieved.
I also found something troubling. This is specifically about the forwards/offence, since defence and goaltending were superb all tourney. Take away the Germany and Swiss games, cause, you know. Finland they dominated, but take that game and add it to Slovakia and Czech. Something felt off in those games to me. Like they played well, but it felt as if some sort of killer instinct was missing. Like I kept thinking, this is nice, but will it work in the critical games?
It seemed like it in the Russia game, but that could have also been Russia just being completely awful. Either way, having watched all the USA games as well, I felt that they looked and played better on their way to the Gold medal game. There seemed to be more of a killer instinct. I also felt that if Cozens wasn't going, the Canadians seemed sort of flat. But if Zegras wasn't going (which never happened), guys like Farinacci and Brink were just consistently stepping it up a little more than players on Canada.
Scores and records be damned, to me it looked like USA's journey featured better hockey in preparation for the final and toughest challenge.
Every Canadian player looks like a surefire NHLer until they are the next Ryan O'Marra or Stefan Della Rovere. But it will be years before we can judge if the team was full of future duds or if it happens to be a team full of NHLers that underachieved.
I also found something troubling. This is specifically about the forwards/offence, since defence and goaltending were superb all tourney. Take away the Germany and Swiss games, cause, you know. Finland they dominated, but take that game and add it to Slovakia and Czech. Something felt off in those games to me. Like they played well, but it felt as if some sort of killer instinct was missing. Like I kept thinking, this is nice, but will it work in the critical games?
It seemed like it in the Russia game, but that could have also been Russia just being completely awful. Either way, having watched all the USA games as well, I felt that they looked and played better on their way to the Gold medal game. There seemed to be more of a killer instinct. I also felt that if Cozens wasn't going, the Canadians seemed sort of flat. But if Zegras wasn't going (which never happened), guys like Farinacci and Brink were just consistently stepping it up a little more than players on Canada.
Scores and records be damned, to me it looked like USA's journey featured better hockey in preparation for the final and toughest challenge.
But that’s not dominance, I agreed their D was impressive, kept everything to the outside for the most part. But I can’t call that dominance.
I think he was out coached a bit, reality is he couldn’t get the kids to show up to the biggest game of the tourney until what the 3rd ?
it’s crazy that the team doesn’t show up to the last game of the tourney until the 3rd period. It’s a massive letdown.
Flameshomer
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I posted a comment early on in the tournament lamenting the lack of consistency. Lines weren't even kept together for single periods 90% of the tournament... How can chemistry possibly develop in that environment?
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Because Team Canada was the Borg Collective. A mix of equal and interchangeable parts driven by a common goal. It just didn't work out in the end. I will say Tourigny seemed asleep at the wheel quite a bit.
There were times where 2 players were standing in front of each other screening the goalie because they both instinctively went there. Like there was no practice of who should be going where during offensive zone possessions, just free wheeling. Almost as if the coach said, “you’re all first round picks, go do your thing”
2Pair
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so you are saying a team that dominated for 13mins of 60 mins dominated the game . . .hmmm . . .ok 
