It's weird to want us to build for the draft while also insisting all the draftees we are currently icing can't possibly improve and make the team better
Speculation: 2021-22 Trade Thread VI : Who's your Dadonov?
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Ok, so the bolded in your quote doesn't indicate his perceived body language is aimed at his teammates, just that he is frustrated (presumably with losing). Not sure how that's news. I don't know too many people that enjoy losing. Do you?
I agree that most fans who watch the team would say they noticed it this past year. I'm just saying I didn't notice it this year. I could very well have missed it or be flat out wrong. I will concede I noticed it the year prior. But again, all that tells us is he doesn't like losing. It doesn't tell us he hates his teammates and doesn't want to remain in Anaheim. In fact, he's flat out said that isn't the case.
If you want to keep using the "where there's smoke there's fire" metaphor (which is flawed logic by the way) then I guess Gibson just put the fire out (that's if we agree there is a fire which is debatable). It's possible Verbeek is carrying a box of matches, but he might just throw them in the garbage rather than use it. Who knows?
Your opinion isn't objective and I don't see how you can glean much in the way of direction to infer Verbeek will trade Gibson based on him trading expiring deals for assets rather than losing them for nothing. If Gibson's deal was expiring this season, then I'd agree, he probably would be moved.
I want to be clear. I'm not saying I think Verbeek will or will not trade Gibson. I truly don't know. I just don't think there is enough evidence for anyone to suggest one way or the other.
Are you saying if Gibson isn't traded at the draft then you were wrong? That's commendable, if so.
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You said the things that you think, I'm not going to disagree that you think those things. The point is that Five Hole is right, the things you think aren't reasonable. You also change what you seem to be arguing pretty often, and then retreat to "agree to disagree" when you're called on it. Frankly you should agree to disagree with yourself because you can't ever keep your shit straight.
This is extremely common around this time of the year. It's been much worse.This place is getting weird lately.
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I love this time of the year (draft, playoffs, junior playoffs).
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This place is getting weird lately
I'd much rather there be discussion about nothing than nothing at all.
This place is getting weird lately
Only because the US census insists on poisoning northern ponds in an effort to turn frogs gay.
The Midnight Burrito
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Pssh, frogs don't need much convincing.
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Me reading HFDucks recently:
Y'all get too worked up in the summer.
Y'all get too worked up in the summer.
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Friedman: "I'm just not convinced that Pat Verbeek sees trading John Gibson as the right move for the team."
He also echoes my earlier sentiments that the moves he made at the deadline were due to expiring deals and points out that Gibson has term.
He also mentions what others here have said, it is likely the only way Gibson is dealt is if a team steps up and makes an offer Verbeek can't refuse.
If there ever was a fire, I consider it extinguished.
Can we loan out Gibson to another league to get his game back? Have Stolarz as the starter, then Gibby can come back with a top 3 pick in next year's draft added
Weird, seemingly the NHL execs and reporters think Gibson is still the best goalie out there that’s available and is on a good contract? Could’ve sworn that he was a cap dump and certain teams would be better off with Mrazek. Oh well
Just curious, how much would you guys hate something like:
2023 1st + EJ + Newhook for Gibson + Comtois?
2023 1st + EJ + Newhook for Gibson + Comtois?
All Mighty
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Could definitely throw in Kaut or a B prospect that needs a change of scenery in there, but Avs don't havem uch outside of that. On a sidenote, how much do you guys value Steel?
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That seems like good framework for a deal. Maybe one more asset needs to be included for taking on EJ’s contract but seems fairly reasonable for the most part.
Honestly I don't think EJ is a negative asset at this point, he's had a hell of a playoffs. He could easily be taken out if Anaheim considers him a cap dump so it's 2013 1st + Newhook for Gibson + Comtois.
Drop Comtois and replace him with Steel or a mid round pick and I’d do it. Newhook is a great piece, but your 1st is likely the very end of the 1st round and we’re taking EJ.
Ya those are a fair ask, the most that could be added is probably a prospect like Kaut, Avs can't really afford to pay more though and need a player like Comtois coming back to offset the lose of Newhook. EJ can easily be taken out of the deal.
Anyways, good to know that something could be worked out with some tweaking.
FWIW, EJ has been on par with Manson this playoffs minus the physicality. They've both looked very solid.
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I'd need to drop Comtois and add a lower level prospect or mid round pick. EJ absolutely has negative value to Anaheim. It's great for him and the Avs that he's having a good playoff run, but the Ducks won't be in the playoffs so what good does that do them?
well two benefits would be that EJ helps the Ducks get to the cap floor and would be a great leader and mentor for guys like Drysdale, Vaak, and Benoit.
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