GDT: 2021-22 season game 65 LA Kings vs Nashville Predators @7:30pm 3/22/22

[Master Yoda]

I do not believe you understand value of Vilard’si game.

Yes, he does not provide super speed, but he is so smart and skilled while helping Kupari and QB to do their staff.

In my opinion Vilardi already is > Lias, Grundstrom, AA and even VA

He is already improved on his skating and stamina and only will get better and better

I've liked Vilardi's game since he returned, but better than VA? Not unless there's another VA that I don't know about.
But I agree about his skating and stamina. Looks a bit quicker and he's able to take a full shift.

 

[Lt Dan]

If anyone missed the game or is a glutton for punishment or wanted to relieve the terror of Leah Hextall

 

[saintsnsoldiers]

I think she was fine the couple of times I’ve listened to her and certainly not the worst play-by-play I’ve heard. People won’t admit it but a big part of it is that people aren’t used to hearing a womens voice and don’t like it simply because it’s different, being generous for most it’s probably subconscious. It’s been exactly the same with football/soccer in the uk. I’ll admit that it took me a few games to get used to the different voice type during games but it really doesn’t bother me. Good luck to her, I think some of the stick she gets is unacceptable.

I get it, but I struggle with her monotone voice and her use of words such as nil for 0 and frame for period. Its not hockey . Not sure I can get used to it. I tried last night to listen but after a few minutes I put to the Kings radio broadcast. Glad ESPN is tying for something new, just wish it wasn't so cringe worthy.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

For sure . Speed is so overrated! You don't have to be fast to be successful , the league is full of guys who have average speed. Valardi has average speed, and can makes smart plays. That's all you need. There was a play in the 1st when he was behind the net and got QB the puck in the slot and he shot it wide. That's not a play you need speed for, it was a smart read and generated a scoring chance.

Speed is not overrated....and speed + power + skill is the most deadly combination. I've been in Denver for some time and when Rantanen came up and started playing with Landeskog and MacKinnon, they all had speed, power and skill. I only go to a few AVs games a year and always go to the King ones....usually in the first few rows in the 300s...but one game, was row 7 in the corner...and watching the 3 of them up close is something I will never ever forget...they were this unstoppable force in sync. Defensemen cannot control or contain them. They willed their way around the zone.

McDavid has size, speed, power and skill....of the highest level and that's what makes him the best player in the world.
As you say, speed is not essential to have success...but if you have it, it's the best weapon in tight checking games.

Kupari has elite speed and high skill and has shown he has an emerging power game. He may never be an elite player, but he's certianly
top 6 material,..once he gets it all together. He has a good shot and can finish. (tempted top go with Finnish) And make plays and shots
at top speed. That goal he scored a few games ago - power, poise and nice backhand shot, top shelf. That's big league stuff.
Byfield and Kupari can be much like MacKinnon / Rantanen, maybe a level below them, but I'll take that. They are 19 and 22.
Vilardi has high skill level, good hockey IQ and has a good shot. The 3 of them should stay together. In 2 years, they can all take over as
line 1.

People have asked "what is Kupari's identity?" fair enough. Let him carve it out. I love that he's good defensively and can kill penalties too.
Maybe Byfield and Kupari create a duo identity as well. Byfield said last night that they had never played together, as both are centers.
You know they should only get better together and begin creating chances a few times every game. Players know who Byfield is....but most
don't know anything about Rasmus. Let them find out who he is, as they see his name on his back, as he blows by them.

 

[kinghock]

So you wouldn't trade....Turcotte and Fagemo and a first for De Brincat....? Why?

I already said price dependent, but this fascination of omg hold on to prospects....because one day...one day I tell you....one day they MIGHT BE AS GOOD AS THE PLAYER WE ARE GOING TO GET.....absolutely baffles me.....

What is absolutely baffles me that you are ready and willing to trade Kings multiple assets without knowing their real value.

When you are talking about trade for De Brincat you should know it will cost you arm and a leg and kidney as well.

Let’s just be real about it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

What is absolutely baffles me that you are ready and willing to trade Kings multiple assets without knowing their real value.

When you are talking about trade for De Brincat you should know it will cost you arm and a leg and kidney as well.

Let’s just be real about it.

And there it is, I don't CARE about their REAL VALUE MAYBE 6 YEARS DOWN THE LINE....If I am getting the 23 year old with multiple 30 goal seasons for a team that is hurting for scoring, I'm good.....

Goal isn't to collect assets so you can win on paper.

 

[kingsfan28]

Wow that is crazy. I think Vegas just doesn’t pay as much attention to hockey as they should, that and the back to back messes with their computer programs.

With the Kings lineup this should be like Kings +130. I hate to bet against (or for) the Kings, but this is tempting. Only time I ever bet Kings games was my greatest run of sports betting ever, taking Kings unders in 2011-2012. Vegas just refused to ever go below 5, lol.

Don't really follow sports betting except the ponies, what exactly does +130 mean?

 

[ibleedkings]

He can sit in the press box and discuss his future off ice job with Blake and Luc.

Yes we would all love for that to happen but you know it’s gonna be the opposite. Vilardi or Kupari will probably get bumped for him and the line will go back to shit.

 

[Kudelski37]

Yes we would all love for that to happen but you know it’s gonna be the opposite. Vilardi or Kupari will probably get bumped for him and the line will go back to shit.

If Brown is healthy and the Kings are locked into their playoff position, I could see him playing the last home game in a Dustin Brown Appreciation Day type situation and then sitting to start the playoffs.

 

[King'sPawn]

I think she was fine the couple of times I’ve listened to her and certainly not the worst play-by-play I’ve heard. People won’t admit it but a big part of it is that people aren’t used to hearing a womens voice and don’t like it simply because it’s different, being generous for most it’s probably subconscious. It’s been exactly the same with football/soccer in the uk. I’ll admit that it took me a few games to get used to the different voice type during games but it really doesn’t bother me. Good luck to her, I think some of the stick she gets is unacceptable.

I agree there are some unaccaptable remarks, but I'm not sure I appreciate the insinuation that the issues people have are driven (subconsciously or not) by sexism. Are there some assholes like that? Sure. But I don't lime to be lumped with them - subconsciously or not.

These are comments I heard which I agree with that has nothing to do with her voice:
- the frequency in which she mixes up names
- the disconnect between the emotional level of the play and her tone
- when she does get excited, her words get jumbled so much that she's unintelligible

Those aren't gender-specific criticisms. It has nothing to do with the sound of her voice. When it's play-by-play, there's a requisite level of ability when telling the story of a game in play-by-play.

There are worse for sure. But I think "not the worst" is too low a bar for a national broadcast.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Yes we would all love for that to happen but you know it’s gonna be the opposite. Vilardi or Kupari will probably get bumped for him and the line will go back to shit.

I think Grundstrom is scratched if Brown is available.

 

[kingsfan28]

If Brown is healthy and the Kings are locked into their playoff position, I could see him playing the last home game in a Dustin Brown Appreciation Day type situation and then sitting to start the playoffs.

No matter how you feel about Brown, if healthy, he won't be benched during the playoffs.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Statto]

I agree there are some unaccaptable remarks, but I'm not sure I appreciate the insinuation that the issues people have are driven (subconsciously or not) by sexism. Are there some assholes like that? Sure. But I don't lime to be lumped with them - subconsciously or not.

These are comments I heard which I agree with that has nothing to do with her voice:
- the frequency in which she mixes up names
- the disconnect between the emotional level of the play and her tone
- when she does get excited, her words get jumbled so much that she's unintelligible

Those aren't gender-specific criticisms. It has nothing to do with the sound of her voice. When it's play-by-play, there's a requisite level of ability when telling the story of a game in play-by-play.

There are worse for sure. But I think "not the worst" is too low a bar for a national broadcast.

Firstly, I didn’t intend to lump you in with anything so I apologise in giving that impression. I was replying to your post but was talking in wider more general terms. For the record nothing you posted made me think you were being sexist.

I don’t disagree hugely with your criticisms, but I do think that part of it (big picture) with the wider criticism is sexism. I don’t see a dedicated thread on the main board for anybody else and as you say she’s not the worst. I agree the bar should be higher, but personally she doesn’t bother me any more than Faust. I’ll admit I’m quite good at ignoring commentary issues as in the uk we do often end up with the awful ‘Homer feeds’ it now just goes over my head. I do miss Bob though.

My bit about the subconscious dislike though I think is valid, but it’s based on dislike of change more so than sexism . If we’d all grown up alway hearing a female voice doing play-by-play if a male voice were to be introduced a sizeable number of people would hate it. People just don’t like change, equally, they wouldn’t like my British accent because it’s not what they are used to.

 

[Schmooley]

Firstly, I didn’t intend to lump you in with anything so I apologise in giving that impression. I was replying to your post but was talking in wider more general terms. For the record nothing you posted made me think you were being sexist.

I don’t disagree hugely with your criticisms, but I do think that part of it (big picture) with the wider criticism is sexism. I don’t see a dedicated thread on the main board for anybody else and as you say she’s not the worst. I agree the bar should be higher, but personally she doesn’t bother me any more than Faust. I’ll admit I’m quite good at ignoring commentary issues as in the uk we do often end up with the awful ‘Homer feeds’ it now just goes over my head. I do miss Bob though.

My bit about the subconscious dislike though I think is valid, but it’s based on dislike of change more so than sexism . If we’d all grown up alway hearing a female voice doing play-by-play if a male voice were to be introduced a sizeable number of people would hate it. People just don’t like change, equally, they wouldn’t like my British accent because it’s not what they are used to.

I think you are overthinking it a bit. No need to pin this on her gender. Shes just not very good. She has bad flow and theres a lot of dead space.
However in her defense she has gotten a lot better as the season goes on and shes making less mistakes with names and plays.
If the people she was hired to cater to like her then good for them. I dont have to like her and thats ok also.

 

[The Lukeman]

Olli Maatta is a +20, which leads all LA Kings players this season.

Maybe.... maybe we should resign him? He has been far better this season than last. Would not be a bad backup option if we can't make something happen during the summer.

 

[SmytheKing]

Don't really follow sports betting except the ponies, what exactly does +130 mean?

If you bet $100, you'd get your $100 back plus $130. Those numbers with a + next to them means what you'd win if you bet $100. If it has a - next to it, it means what you'd have to bet to win $100. The minus signifies a favorite. The plus is the underdog. Example:

Kings +180 to win. You bet $100 and they win. You'd get $280.
Kings -300 to win. You bet $300 and they win. You'd get $400.

Hope that helps.

 

[King'sPawn]

Firstly, I didn’t intend to lump you in with anything so I apologise in giving that impression. I was replying to your post but was talking in wider more general terms. For the record nothing you posted made me think you were being sexist.

I don’t disagree hugely with your criticisms, but I do think that part of it (big picture) with the wider criticism is sexism. I don’t see a dedicated thread on the main board for anybody else and as you say she’s not the worst. I agree the bar should be higher, but personally she doesn’t bother me any more than Faust. I’ll admit I’m quite good at ignoring commentary issues as in the uk we do often end up with the awful ‘Homer feeds’ it now just goes over my head. I do miss Bob though.

My bit about the subconscious dislike though I think is valid, but it’s based on dislike of change more so than sexism . If we’d all grown up alway hearing a female voice doing play-by-play if a male voice were to be introduced a sizeable number of people would hate it. People just don’t like change, equally, they wouldn’t like my British accent because it’s not what they are used to.

That's fair. My apologies for misunderstanding, but appreciate you taking the time to clarify!

I do think she's improved, but overall I just feel there was opportunity to bring in someone with better credentials and skillset to be a better pioneer and barrier breaker. That's what I lament most about the issue.

Because if she DID execute better, then it would be easier to call out those making unfair criticisms.

 

[KINGS17]

Quick had a strong game last night. When he is getting low and tracking the puck like he was last night, he is very difficult to beat.

 

[kingsholygrail]

The moment Brown is healthy, he will be inserted into the lineup.

 

[kingsfan28]

Ha, that play... how many times have we seen that called holding, using your free arm to stop a guy. I thnk Moore or someone got call for that in the 1st.

 

[kingsfan28]

If you bet $100, you'd get your $100 back plus $130. Those numbers with a + next to them means what you'd win if you bet $100. If it has a - next to it, it means what you'd have to bet to win $100. The minus signifies a favorite. The plus is the underdog. Example:

Kings +180 to win. You bet $100 and they win. You'd get $280.
Kings -300 to win. You bet $300 and they win. You'd get $400.

Hope that helps.

That's very clear. Thanks .

 

[bland]

I agree there are some unaccaptable remarks, but I'm not sure I appreciate the insinuation that the issues people have are driven (subconsciously or not) by sexism. Are there some assholes like that? Sure. But I don't lime to be lumped with them - subconsciously or not.

These are comments I heard which I agree with that has nothing to do with her voice:
- the frequency in which she mixes up names
- the disconnect between the emotional level of the play and her tone
- when she does get excited, her words get jumbled so much that she's unintelligible

Those aren't gender-specific criticisms. It has nothing to do with the sound of her voice. When it's play-by-play, there's a requisite level of ability when telling the story of a game in play-by-play.

There are worse for sure. But I think "not the worst" is too low a bar for a national broadcast.

If anything, she sounded just like Faust on helium. A general level of uncertainty expressed in their inflection is the most noticable issue.

 

[regulate]

Breakout game for the Byfield line. Spence continues to dazzle. Only players with higher game score averages this season (metrics) is Arvidsson and Doughty on the Kings. Small sample but he seems to be the real deal.