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GDT: 2021-22 season game 17 LA Kings vs Carolina Hurricanes @1:00pm 11/20/21

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Peter James Bond II said:
If Quick was playing this good at the last 2 trade deadlines, may have had offers for him and possibly dealt him....AND the Kings may still have Campbell, in that case.
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Nobodys taking Quicks contract back then, without us eating half. So the Kings would be paying for Campbell, plus Petersen plus another 2,7 mil for him to play somewhere else for say a 3rd round pick at best. Two years ago, Campbell was still unproven, and most likely been lit up last year as well because our defense was so bad. A;so, if quick was playing this well, why would move him, to save a few bucks?
 
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The lack of defensive scoring [goals] and the power play are costing us games. What are they now, 3/47 over the last 10 games? Another 0-5 night, including probably the worst one all year in the 2nd. That might have been Maata first shot on goal this year that hit the net. Even when they do score, its waved off.
 
The winning streak was smoke and mirrors riding hot goaltending (no more than 2 goals against in any of the 7 straight wins). The reality is you are not going to go very far with a defense that generates zero offense, a bad PP, a bad PK, and an apparent organizational philosophy of not putting young players in a position to succeed. When Quick cools off, it could get REAL ugly
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
The winning streak was smoke and mirrors riding hot goaltending (no more than 2 goals against in any of the 7 straight wins). The reality is you are not going to go very far with a defense that generates zero offense, a bad PP, a bad PK, and an apparent organizational philosophy of not putting young players in a position to succeed. When Quick cools off, it could get REAL ugly
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Are you actually watching any of these games or just looking at the stats and boxscore? The negativity on this board in the last week is f***ing mind-numbing. Personally, I haven't been this interested in watching the Kings play in YEARS...we just played two of the leagues top teams and despite the score, it could be argued that the Kings outplayed the opponents. This has been consistent play of the last 10 games, all of it done without Doughty and Walker (for those bitching that there's no offense from the D, don't forget that).

As great as it would be to make the playoffs, the real point of this season is to 'turn the corner' and be in the mix -- I guess I'm blind because there is no doubt in my mind that they are doing just that.
 
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johnjm22 said:
The way the Kings have played during this 3 game losing streak, might actually be better than how they played during their winning streak.

Hockey can be so frustrating.
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I still go back to the Sutterism about at the end of a winning streak you're winning games you should lose and at the end of a losing streak you're losing games you should win.

Every one of these games was winnable so it's extremely frustrating leaving points on the table...and I hate to say it but I place big emphasis on today's 'trap' game to see where we are. So far, I think we'd all agree they've mostly been--in whatever manner--beating the teams they're 'supposed' to beat and losing to teams they're 'supposed' to lose to (with a couple of surprise exceptions). I want to see how they'll respond to the NHL's tank project. IE are these guys going to keep going hard to the middle and force the issue or are they going to lay back into old habits, taking the outside since the Yotes will undoubtedly just sit back in the middle?
 
Petersen got the Jonathan Quick treatment yesterday.

So many games in recent years where I didn't think Quick played bad, but his stats were terrible. Games where it would be like 20 shots against, with 4 or 5 near unstoppable goals against.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Petersen got the Jonathan Quick treatment yesterday.

So many games in recent years where I didn't think Quick played bad, but his stats were terrible. Games where it would be like 20 shots against, with 4 or 5 near unstoppable goals against.
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Yep. Feel like I did a lot of defending of that over the years, yesterday was a classic Quick special.

In similar manner, he really only made one big save. But what can you do about double-deflections and own goals?

The goaltending was only one part of yesterdays letdown--plenty of special teams and defensive blame to go around.

The sign of an upcoming team vs. a powerhouse--we still need to put it all together to win games vs. Washington, Carolina, et. al. not going to get past those guys without our best games--yesterday we got the offense but not the D/goaltending. Vs. Washington we got the D but ran into a hotter goalie and no offense. Those are usually 50-50 games at best and we showed well only to lose by a thin margin. Yesterday unfortunately for Cal, he didn't step up that little extra that we could have used.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Petersen got the Jonathan Quick treatment yesterday.

So many games in recent years where I didn't think Quick played bad, but his stats were terrible. Games where it would be like 20 shots against, with 4 or 5 near unstoppable goals against.
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With the way Quick has been playing lately, I think we get a win last night with him in net. Peterson wasn't bad, just didn't make any BIG saves.

I will call out TM on that choice...I think Quick has been better this year and in a back to back situations, best team/worst team, why wouldn't you play the better goaltender against the better team?
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
With the way Quick has been playing lately, I think we get a win last night with him in net. Peterson wasn't bad, just didn't make any BIG saves.

I will call out TM on that choice...I think Quick has been better this year and in a back to back situations, best team/worst team, why wouldn't you play the better goaltender against the better team?
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Maybe. But ultimately in the last two games there was bad defensive play downlow near the net that cost us the games.

Then in Winnipeg is was a damn short handed goal late in the game.

It's so agitating.
 
Quick makes the occasional unstoppable saves but occasionally lets in the stoppable shots.

Peterson almost always makes the saves he is supposed to make but rarely stops the unstoppable.

Pick your poison, neither is a poor option, neither is ideal. Neither is a problem for the team at this time.
 
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Towards the end of the game, when the Kings pulled the goalie, I was thinking to myself; this is the day it finally happens. We're gonna score that late goal, win in OT against the best team in the league. It's going to be cathartic. It's one of those magical games.

Then the last 45 seconds turned out to be completely anti-climatic. Kings barely got the puck in the zone. The clock ran down with the puck in neutral zone and we lost.
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
With the way Quick has been playing lately, I think we get a win last night with him in net. Peterson wasn't bad, just didn't make any BIG saves.

I will call out TM on that choice...I think Quick has been better this year and in a back to back situations, best team/worst team, why wouldn't you play the better goaltender against the better team?
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I think either theory is sound.

It sounds like you prefered to go fresh and strength-on-strength vs. the better team

It sounds like the org prefers Quick vs. a higher-% conference game (or maybe they know we suck absolute eggs vs. the Coyotes and will need Quick to bail our stupid asses out)

B2B so either way its' gonna be both, the order in this case 'matters' but good reasoning either way imo
 
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