GWT: 2021-22 PL Matchweek 1

AB13

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What significant things has Arsenal won in a non-domestic competition?
13 League Titles and 14 FA Cups. Domestic league titles in a top 5 league are the biggest possible club acheivments. FA cups are way way way bigger than Europa Leagues.
 

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FA cups are way way way bigger than Europa Leagues.

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AB13

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The only teams that regularly manage to win the FA Cup are geniune elite clubs. Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea. To win the Europa League you barely need to play any good teams at all. Winning the Europa League is being the 33rd, or at best 17th best team in Europe. It is a pretty irrelevant competition if you are a team that don't need it to get a CL spot. Carabao Cups are also much bigger trophies.
 

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The only teams that regularly manage to win the FA Cup are geniune elite clubs. Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea. To win the Europa League you barely need to play any good teams at all. Winning the Europa League is being the 33rd, or at best 17th best team in Europe.
The last 10 Europa League winners have been:

Villarreal
Sevilla
Chelsea
Atletico
Manchester United
Sevilla
Sevilla
Sevilla
Chelsea
Atletico

These are all pretty good clubs.
 

AB13

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The last 10 Europa League winners have been:

Villarreal
Sevilla
Chelsea
Atletico
Manchester United
Sevilla
Sevilla
Sevilla
Chelsea
Atletico

These are all pretty good clubs.
No not really. Villareal and Sevilla have not done much good domestically and haven’t really been particularly good. My main point however is that they didn’t have to beat genuine elite powerhouse superteams to win the trophy. To win the FA Cup, you always need to beat at least one, most often more than one of the CL favorites.
 

Vasilevskiy

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No not really. Villareal and Sevilla have not done much good domestically and haven’t really been particularly good. My main point however is that they didn’t have to beat genuine elite powerhouse superteams to win the trophy. To win the FA Cup, you always need to beat at least one, most often more than one of the CL favorites.

Just stop it
 

Chimaera

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Yep and he also accused the players of not wanting to play for him. And then they kept him through the whole summer and gave him another chance and he bombed. I believe he also claimed that every dressing room has the problems they were having.

Everyone knew he should be sacked but nobody at the club wanted to listen. In the end it worked out well anyway because Klopp wouldn't have taken the job in the summer.
He also tried to blame all the player problems on not getting guys he wanted when he wanted.

He has come out and said that the disconnect between him and the player selection is some of what drove a wedge.

But Brendan is an egomaniac, so of course not his fault.
 

Chimaera

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I think Arteta is a boob.


But, I also think he was qualified to have a decent shot at a job in the top part of the EPL. My issue is whether or not he got much support, or was the guy to really get the club where they needed to go. Unai is a much better manager, and had not been able to get the club moving, so asking a guy who has never done it was a stretch. Would their side be better with a better manager? Yeah, I guess. But they’re not a top 4 side, and you could make an argument that most of what they’ve spent in a couple of windows isn’t cutting it either.
 

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What in the literal f*** did I just watch?

These knobhead clown wankers, just absolutely played off the pitch against a beer league club. There was so many negatives tonight I can't even remember from my long-term memory bank it's so numerous. The worst and I mean absolute WORST aspect tonight was if you count out Leno, the f***ing team had nine individual players run around a green grass getting a workout and one only one f***ing bloke who actually bought into the team atmosphere and played like an f***ing teammate...that was Emile Smith-Rowe.

Pepe tried to dribble through five players because he has no idea what to do. Mari is slow as icebergs. White was caught playing too aggressive at times. Chambers, though has been a good warrior, just doesn't even come close to the level we should be at. Tierney did stuff, but nothing too impressive. Xhaka did nothing. Lokonga looked alright, but shouldn't be starting. Saka just ran around. Martinelli looks like his knees are destroyed and can't run at defenders anymore. Balogun shouldn't be a starter, but got zero passes.

Holy shit, so many individual players conducting so many useless individual runs. And the next worst is Arteta rubbish Spanish ball...

- Arsenal looks good when they conduct nice give and go balls and run towards the opposing goal.

But this Spanish paella eating bastard rather try and kill any momentum by slowing the game to this level...

- Arsenal passes it into the slot above the box, players don't see anything, and then eventually passes LITERALLY back to Leno.

It's like I am on effing crazy pills here and because Leno can't play the ball from the ball the possession goes back to Brentford. They had like three good scoring chances because we passed the f***ing ball from the top of their box all the way back to our zone. Like the literal f***? Seriously f*** this Spanish football, it only works if you have a Barca or City level calibre team who can actually make a f***ing pass under pressure.

Another aspect is that the English refs are so f***ing Pejorative Slured I can't even start, this dumbarse balded freak doesn't even see that Leno is getting pinned into a porn position by their tattoo bullocks defender. HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A SAVE!!!! Like what is the literal f*** of having a VAR that should be able to review stuff but Dean decides not to do it? I am not saying we would've won, but it's not like Arsenal was held to zero shots or something like some brutal performances in the past.

And every single f***ing weakness that was displayed in preseason was carried over to here in the regular season. Just fire the set pieces coach because it was so damn f***ing awful in the preseason and they got beat by another one tonight, even though the goal was as illegitimate as a baby on the Maury Show. I'm seriously done with this shit because I can handle individual mistakes, I can handle bad games where no one shows up, but I can't handle the lack of energy, intensity, tactics, and just overall team-work environment. SERIOUSLY F***
 

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What in the literal f*** did I just watch?

These knobhead clown wankers, just absolutely played off the pitch against a beer league club. There was so many negatives tonight I can't even remember from my long-term memory bank it's so numerous. The worst and I mean absolute WORST aspect tonight was if you count out Leno, the f***ing team had nine individual players run around a green grass getting a workout and one only one f***ing bloke who actually bought into the team atmosphere and played like an f***ing teammate...that was Emile Smith-Rowe.

Pepe tried to dribble through five players because he has no idea what to do. Mari is slow as icebergs. White was caught playing too aggressive at times. Chambers, though has been a good warrior, just doesn't even come close to the level we should be at. Tierney did stuff, but nothing too impressive. Xhaka did nothing. Lokonga looked alright, but shouldn't be starting. Saka just ran around. Martinelli looks like his knees are destroyed and can't run at defenders anymore. Balogun shouldn't be a starter, but got zero passes.

Holy shit, so many individual players conducting so many useless individual runs. And the next worst is Arteta rubbish Spanish ball...

- Arsenal looks good when they conduct nice give and go balls and run towards the opposing goal.

But this Spanish paella eating bastard rather try and kill any momentum by slowing the game to this level...

- Arsenal passes it into the slot above the box, players don't see anything, and then eventually passes LITERALLY back to Leno.

It's like I am on effing crazy pills here and because Leno can't play the ball from the ball the possession goes back to Brentford. They had like three good scoring chances because we passed the f***ing ball from the top of their box all the way back to our zone. Like the literal f***? Seriously f*** this Spanish football, it only works if you have a Barca or City level calibre team who can actually make a f***ing pass under pressure.

Another aspect is that the English refs are so f***ing Pejorative Slured I can't even start, this dumbarse balded freak doesn't even see that Leno is getting pinned into a porn position by their tattoo bullocks defender. HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A SAVE!!!! Like what is the literal f*** of having a VAR that should be able to review stuff but Dean decides not to do it? I am not saying we would've won, but it's not like Arsenal was held to zero shots or something like some brutal performances in the past.

And every single f***ing weakness that was displayed in preseason was carried over to here in the regular season. Just fire the set pieces coach because it was so damn f***ing awful in the preseason and they got beat by another one tonight, even though the goal was as illegitimate as a baby on the Maury Show. I'm seriously done with this shit because I can handle individual mistakes, I can handle bad games where no one shows up, but I can't handle the lack of energy, intensity, tactics, and just overall team-work environment. SERIOUSLY F***

This was worth the wait.
 

Blender

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What in the literal f*** did I just watch?

These knobhead clown wankers, just absolutely played off the pitch against a beer league club. There was so many negatives tonight I can't even remember from my long-term memory bank it's so numerous. The worst and I mean absolute WORST aspect tonight was if you count out Leno, the f***ing team had nine individual players run around a green grass getting a workout and one only one f***ing bloke who actually bought into the team atmosphere and played like an f***ing teammate...that was Emile Smith-Rowe.

Pepe tried to dribble through five players because he has no idea what to do. Mari is slow as icebergs. White was caught playing too aggressive at times. Chambers, though has been a good warrior, just doesn't even come close to the level we should be at. Tierney did stuff, but nothing too impressive. Xhaka did nothing. Lokonga looked alright, but shouldn't be starting. Saka just ran around. Martinelli looks like his knees are destroyed and can't run at defenders anymore. Balogun shouldn't be a starter, but got zero passes.

Holy shit, so many individual players conducting so many useless individual runs. And the next worst is Arteta rubbish Spanish ball...

- Arsenal looks good when they conduct nice give and go balls and run towards the opposing goal.

But this Spanish paella eating bastard rather try and kill any momentum by slowing the game to this level...

- Arsenal passes it into the slot above the box, players don't see anything, and then eventually passes LITERALLY back to Leno.

It's like I am on effing crazy pills here and because Leno can't play the ball from the ball the possession goes back to Brentford. They had like three good scoring chances because we passed the f***ing ball from the top of their box all the way back to our zone. Like the literal f***? Seriously f*** this Spanish football, it only works if you have a Barca or City level calibre team who can actually make a f***ing pass under pressure.

Another aspect is that the English refs are so f***ing Pejorative Slured I can't even start, this dumbarse balded freak doesn't even see that Leno is getting pinned into a porn position by their tattoo bullocks defender. HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A SAVE!!!! Like what is the literal f*** of having a VAR that should be able to review stuff but Dean decides not to do it? I am not saying we would've won, but it's not like Arsenal was held to zero shots or something like some brutal performances in the past.

And every single f***ing weakness that was displayed in preseason was carried over to here in the regular season. Just fire the set pieces coach because it was so damn f***ing awful in the preseason and they got beat by another one tonight, even though the goal was as illegitimate as a baby on the Maury Show. I'm seriously done with this shit because I can handle individual mistakes, I can handle bad games where no one shows up, but I can't handle the lack of energy, intensity, tactics, and just overall team-work environment. SERIOUSLY F***
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Jack Straw

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What in the literal f*** did I just watch?

These knobhead clown wankers, just absolutely played off the pitch against a beer league club. There was so many negatives tonight I can't even remember from my long-term memory bank it's so numerous. The worst and I mean absolute WORST aspect tonight was if you count out Leno, the f***ing team had nine individual players run around a green grass getting a workout and one only one f***ing bloke who actually bought into the team atmosphere and played like an f***ing teammate...that was Emile Smith-Rowe.

Pepe tried to dribble through five players because he has no idea what to do. Mari is slow as icebergs. White was caught playing too aggressive at times. Chambers, though has been a good warrior, just doesn't even come close to the level we should be at. Tierney did stuff, but nothing too impressive. Xhaka did nothing. Lokonga looked alright, but shouldn't be starting. Saka just ran around. Martinelli looks like his knees are destroyed and can't run at defenders anymore. Balogun shouldn't be a starter, but got zero passes.

Holy shit, so many individual players conducting so many useless individual runs. And the next worst is Arteta rubbish Spanish ball...

- Arsenal looks good when they conduct nice give and go balls and run towards the opposing goal.

But this Spanish paella eating bastard rather try and kill any momentum by slowing the game to this level...

- Arsenal passes it into the slot above the box, players don't see anything, and then eventually passes LITERALLY back to Leno.

It's like I am on effing crazy pills here and because Leno can't play the ball from the ball the possession goes back to Brentford. They had like three good scoring chances because we passed the f***ing ball from the top of their box all the way back to our zone. Like the literal f***? Seriously f*** this Spanish football, it only works if you have a Barca or City level calibre team who can actually make a f***ing pass under pressure.

Another aspect is that the English refs are so f***ing Pejorative Slured I can't even start, this dumbarse balded freak doesn't even see that Leno is getting pinned into a porn position by their tattoo bullocks defender. HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A SAVE!!!! Like what is the literal f*** of having a VAR that should be able to review stuff but Dean decides not to do it? I am not saying we would've won, but it's not like Arsenal was held to zero shots or something like some brutal performances in the past.

And every single f***ing weakness that was displayed in preseason was carried over to here in the regular season. Just fire the set pieces coach because it was so damn f***ing awful in the preseason and they got beat by another one tonight, even though the goal was as illegitimate as a baby on the Maury Show. I'm seriously done with this shit because I can handle individual mistakes, I can handle bad games where no one shows up, but I can't handle the lack of energy, intensity, tactics, and just overall team-work environment. SERIOUSLY F***

Hey, paella is awesome. Easily in my top 3 all time favorite meals.
 

HoseEmDown

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The only teams that regularly manage to win the FA Cup are geniune elite clubs. Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea. To win the Europa League you barely need to play any good teams at all. Winning the Europa League is being the 33rd, or at best 17th best team in Europe. It is a pretty irrelevant competition if you are a team that don't need it to get a CL spot. Carabao Cups are also much bigger trophies.

I was having a pretty shit day today with my Covid but this sure put a smile on my face.
 

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