Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part IV Playoffs? I Danault

[kilowatt]

If Eklund is a source, so am I. In fact, I might be more credible. Laughable that people shit on Hoven and then cite Eklund

 

[BigKing]

If the Kings end up pulling a Dodgers and only being shown on one provider's channel that's hard to access, they will be shooting themselves squarely in the dick at a time when they need exposure most.

Well I'm sure the Kings didn't expect that several providers would not be carrying the RSN they signed a 12 year deal with back in 2012 so they can't be pleased with how things have gone. Of course, the timing has been good for them if this were to happen since FSW/Bally's started to be dropped when the Kings were outright tanking. They also signed that deal while they were up 2-0 on the Devils in 2012 so the Kings have probably mostly underperformed on that rights deal.

I imagine that Bally's will still want carriage on as many providers as possible but will also offer their own service...basically what HBO still does. I can't imagine the Kings going the route of the Dodgers since they aren't a big enough draw. The next contract will be interesting though. Who knows how many providers will carry Bally's RSN's in 2024 when the contract is up.

I have DISH so I've been without FSW/Bally's since the summer of 2019. I never imagined a world where I couldn't see my local team when paying for cable/satellite.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I ain't going through the entire NHL to compiler a list of guys on one-way or partial one-way deals (not full one-way but making more than the 10% usual in the minors) but it happens plenty enough. Not to mention, right now is the worst time to do since everyone is set for camp and technically no one is in the minors until they get demoted. I'm not sure what magic per cent you want to hit to make it count in your books but one per team is 4.3%.

Btw, we're at 32 teams now.

I'm not talking partial one way deals. Those guys are vets expected to go to the AHL, like Sparks. He gets a couple extra bucks for signing, but he's the backup in Ontario/injury call-up. I'm talking about full 1 way deals. I can guarantee that it's less then 1 per team on average. Probably less than .5 players per team. Some of those being for a team like the Islanders, who are desperate to win, they can't have Ladd or Hickey hanging around, so they stash them away. Most teams, even most contenders, don't do that. Ladd is an extreme example. It's not just the big contracts either. Even the 1 way guys that have cap hits that wouldn't count if they got sent down, don't normally get sent down.

I get that we want fun, and the fun guys are the young guys. That's interesting. Wagner and Lizotte are not interesting. However, they're not going to send multiple 1 way deals to Ontario. They re-signed Sutter's kid again. A couple other veteran AHL deals as well. They signed the reigning AHL MVP. Traded for a guy from the Coyotes. They can only play so many experienced players at one time in an AHL game. They're not sending Maatta down and pay him to not play because they'd rather have a young guy gaining experience.

Then again, maybe they do send 5 guys down, who knows, but you can't assume that.

 

[kingsfan]

I'm not talking partial one way deals. Those guys are vets expected to go to the AHL, like Sparks. He gets a couple extra bucks for signing, but he's the backup in Ontario/injury call-up. I'm talking about full 1 way deals. I can guarantee that it's less then 1 per team on average. Probably less than .5 players per team. Some of those being for a team like the Islanders, who are desperate to win, they can't have Ladd or Hickey hanging around, so they stash them away. Most teams, even most contenders, don't do that. Ladd is an extreme example. It's not just the big contracts either. Even the 1 way guys that have cap hits that wouldn't count if they got sent down, don't normally get sent down.

I get that we want fun, and the fun guys are the young guys. That's interesting. Wagner and Lizotte are not interesting. However, they're not going to send multiple 1 way deals to Ontario. They re-signed Sutter's kid again. A couple other veteran AHL deals as well. They signed the reigning AHL MVP. Traded for a guy from the Coyotes. They can only play so many experienced players at one time in an AHL game. They're not sending Maatta down and pay him to not play because they'd rather have a young guy gaining experience.

Then again, maybe they do send 5 guys down, who knows, but you can't assume that.

No, they'd send him down because he'd not be among the best seven defenseman. If he is, he stays up. It's that simple. He's getting paid his $3 mill the same whether he's in LA, the minors, Europe or at home eating a pizza. But agree to disagree because we're just going in circles and the only things that should go in circles is hula hoops and jerks and I don't do either.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This is getting seriously overblown.

MOST teams are spending more than the Kings. Like @kingsfan is saying, Maatta could be at home stuffing his face with meatballs and it doesn't draw some weird undue attention.

We're not at some crazy expenditure point where the franchise is going to force Blake to play Maatta over several better options to save face. Now that I've typed that out, frankly, that's one of the stupidest things I've had to read in the offseason.

Jesse has said it quite a few times, there are simply too. many. guys. SOMEONE is going to sit, and it will HAVE to be someone with salary regardless. I can imagine a few little housecleaning trades but I don't see why people are so shocked that a rebuilding team is going to see some guys get shown the door as better players replace them. No one shed tears over Ethan Moreau or Trent Hunter, spare me the faux indignation about Austin f***ing Wagner.

 

[FSL KINGS]

What's a Maatta U?

He's getting traded to Buffalo for cap reasons anyways so don't worry too much. Ok probably not, but there isn't much exciting hockey news right now.

Until the Eichel trade that is!

 

[tbrown33]

According to Cap Friendly, Ottawa and Buffalo are still 2-3 mill under the cap floor.

 

[Yog S'loth]

spare me the faux indignation about Austin f***ing Wagner.

Hey, I like Austin Wagner.

I like him even more than... Brian Wilsie, and... Jeff Giuliani, and... that Brent Chartrand. Brent? Bob? That guy. And even that guy that signed that big one-way multi-year contract and played the whole thing in the minors, Z something?

 

[kingsfan]

Hey, I like Austin Wagner.

I like him even more than... Brian Wilsie, and... Jeff Giuliani, and... that Brent Chartrand. Brent? Bob? That guy. And even that guy that signed that big one-way multi-year contract and played the whole thing in the minors, Z something?

Yeah, that Ziggy Stardust guy was a bum

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

John Zeiler was apparently worthy of a four-year contract extension.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Zeiler at least gave us that righteous falcon punch picture

 

[Lt Dan]

Zeiler at least gave us that righteous falcon punch picture

 

[YP44]

worth it

 

[deaderhead28]

This could be Brown's last season as a king. Everyone should be cheering him on all year.

Brown will probably get one year deals as long as he wants to stay. I be shocked if Brown plays for another organization.

 

[kingsfan]

According to Cap Friendly, Ottawa and Buffalo are still 2-3 mill under the cap floor.

They'll be over once they sign Tkachuk and Dahlin respectively.

 

[kingsfan]

Brown will probably get one year deals as long as he wants to stay. I be shocked if Brown plays for another organization.

Agreed, as long as 'As long as he wants" is something the team can honour. He wants to hang around to long and he'll go Broduer or Chelios.

 

[YP44]

Brown will probably get one year deals as long as he wants to stay. I be shocked if Brown plays for another organization.

I think this is most likely. But who knows how long he wants to keep playing. he has his cups, he has been battling injuries the last couple of years. Maybe he wants to spend more time with his 100 kids. Point is I am going to cherish him while I can.

 

[YP44]

They'll be over once they sign Tkachuk and Dahlin respectively.

I think Ottawa could be a good landing spot for Dubnyk on a 1 year deal as well.

 

[bland]

Brown will probably get one year deals as long as he wants to stay. I be shocked if Brown plays for another organization.

This should most definitely be his last season. He no longer has the will to dig in hard enough to forecheck, backcheck or get within 10 feet of the boards. His play away from the puck was an embarrassment and simply no longer at the NHL level. He gave away multiple OT goals, failed to cover for pinching defenders leading to numerous outnumbered attacks and flat out missed one defensive assignment after another.

He was part of a miserable failure of "leadership" that didn't integrate kids and newcomers into the lineup and saw the team collapse in on itself time and time again.

Selfishly gliding to the net for easy tap ins while everybody else is working around you is not something a team can afford to have as it brings kids into a lineup. He cannot play a bottom 6 role, and by next year there are too many kids coming into the lineup that will need those offensive situation minutes.

Best case scenario is that Brown announces that this will be his final year and takes a last lap around the league so the fans get their feel good moments and opportunity to say goodbye to a Kings legend.

 

[DoktorJeep]

This should most definitely be his last season. He no longer has the will to dig in hard enough to forecheck, backcheck or get within 10 feet of the boards. His play away from the puck was an embarrassment and simply no longer at the NHL level. He gave away multiple OT goals, failed to cover for pinching defenders leading to numerous outnumbered attacks and flat out missed one defensive assignment after another.

He was part of a miserable failure of "leadership" that didn't integrate kids and newcomers into the lineup and saw the team collapse in on itself time and time again.

Selfishly gliding to the net for easy tap ins while everybody else is working around you is not something a team can afford to have as it brings kids into a lineup. He cannot play a bottom 6 role, and by next year there are too many kids coming into the lineup that will need those offensive situation minutes.

Best case scenario is that Brown announces that this will be his final year and takes a last lap around the league so the fans get their feel good moments and opportunity to say goodbye to a Kings legend.

At a $6M cap hit his negatives aren’t a reason the Kings have plummeted. Unlike Carter, Brown has been productive while the Kings have been bad. His real salary has dropped the past few years, so he has plenty of reasons to mail it in, but hasn’t. Maybe that isn’t the kind of leadership that puts your face on a mountain. But it’s not like this team would have won more than a handful of extra games the past couple of years if they had prime Yzerman in the lineup.

 

[lumbergh]

Brown will probably get one year deals as long as he wants to stay. I be shocked if Brown plays for another organization.

That’s just not a good way to run a business. IMO he should get at most one extra year, but you can’t let a player in his late 30s just take up space because he used to be captain. Sentimentality should only go so far. Hopefully Brown will know when it’s time to hang them up. If he decides to sign with another team, the Kings will go on without him.

 

[Trash Panda]

At a $6M cap hit his negatives aren’t a reason the Kings have plummeted. Unlike Carter, Brown has been productive while the Kings have been bad. His real salary has dropped the past few years, so he has plenty of reasons to mail it in, but hasn’t. Maybe that isn’t the kind of leadership that puts your face on a mountain. But it’s not like this team would have won more than a handful of extra games the past couple of years if they had prime Yzerman in the lineup.

He absolutely has mailed it in, almost in every sense of the phrase.

Dustin has been spoon-fed offensive zone starts, been relieved of PK time, and paired with two great puck possession stalwarts. It’s enabled him to be “productive” on their coattails, but he simply is not a producing player on his own anymore.

Zero intensity.

Time for dustin to hang em up, so we can all go to remembering him for the absolute force that he was, instead of watching the shell that he now is.

 

[kingsfan]

I think Ottawa could be a good landing spot for Dubnyk on a 1 year deal as well.

Really? They are pretty locked into Murray and I'd assume they'd want to give Gustavsson some starts as well given how good he looked last year. Frankly, I can't understand how Buffalo isn't all over Dubnyk given their starting duo looks to be Anderson and Aaron f***ing Dell.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Say what youwant about his play but Brown doesn't strike me as the type of guy/player who would just soak a bunch of contracts from the org just to keep playing...and even if he was, i don't think they'd let him.

At least honor his current contract before shitting on his potential future.

 

[kingsfan28]

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Rumor: Johnny Gaudreau could be a MAJOR part of a 3-Way Eichel Trade.




I'll believe it when I believe it.......

Yeah, same here. 1st... no cap space, 2nd...we just sign a 2nd line center for 6 years. So where is Eichel going to play, the wing?