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Prospect Info: 2021-22 Kings Prospects in CHL/College/Europe part 4

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I don't think Turcotte will ever come close to Mike Richards. Richards had an 80 point season and a 75 point season.

Turcotte just doesn't have that offensive upside.

I think he's a 40-50 point guy in the NHL.

He could end up just being an upgraded more physical version of Trevor Lewis.
 
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Vino said:
I have not seen any of his Wisc. games, only his WJC games (U18, U20) and most of his 2 AHL seasons (thanks AHL-TV!) and sorry, just based on that, I don't belive Turcotte will be Stanley Cup contenders 2 C. If everything goes really well he could be an effective, hard working, hard skating, net driving second line LW, who could sometimes take shifts as a center.

Turcotte has also played with Frk, Madden, Burke and Johnson and if he is a truly gifted, "NHL 2C"-level player, he should make his linemates better and for now I have not seen it.

Zegras is an artist, an ententainer - he is bigger, meaner, more skilled and a lot more creative and annoying than Turcotte. Zegras is a player, who opponents love to hate. There is no GM in the NHL, who would rather have Turcotte than Zegras.

It's still pisses me of that 2019 Blake drafted Turcotte, not Cozens (my favourite). It will take two more years, when Cozens gets his "man strenght", but then he is going to be a good player. Maybye scoringwise not as good as Zegras, but a really good player anyway.
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As I said, I think he can be a 2C, but none of us would complain if he makes it as a top 6 winger either. I don't disagree with your thoughts and I see some of the same things as you do. Have to remember though, if your talking about PPG, he was close to a 1 PPG through the first 10 games or so and I don't remember when it happened but all of a sudden Wrobo thought it'd be a good idea to move Austin Wagner up.

You are right in a good center can elevate his wingers. I am not a fan at all of Johnson or Burke. And Frk, I don't know what's up with the guy, but lately he seems more interested in annoying the other team. But again, I thought he looked pretty good with Vilardi and Tkachev.

I mentioned before in another post that I don't think Turcotte will be that dynamic offensive center we were hoping for, but just based on the games I've seen him play, he does show a lot of good things that lead me to believe he can be a 2C. Of course, it may or may not happen.
 
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johnjm22 said:
I don't think Turcotte will ever come close to Mike Richards. Richards had an 80 point season and a 75 point season.

Turcotte just doesn't have that offensive upside.

I think he's a 40-50 point guy in the NHL.

He could end up just being an upgraded more physical version of Trevor Lewis.
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TF are you talking about?
the kid oozes offensive potential and has a great 200ft game. If you actually watched him and paid attention, you’d see the little things the guy does along with very high skill..
This is the type of kid that wears a letter and sacrifices everything to win
 
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kings11 said:
TF are you talking about?
the kid oozes offensive potential and has a great 200ft game. If you actually watched him and paid attention, you’d see the little things the guy does along with very high skill..
This is the type of kid that wears a letter and sacrifices everything to win
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I would agree with this if Turcotte can pack on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle and stop missing time with injuries, illnesses etc. the motor and skill are there, we just need his body to catch up.
 
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funky said:
I would agree with this if Turcotte can pack on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle and stop missing time with injuries, illnesses etc. the motor and skill are there, we just need his body to catch up.
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I’ve said the same about him needing more muscle long term but damn the kid is literally everything we need atm!
 
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funky said:
I would agree with this if Turcotte can pack on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle and stop missing time with injuries, illnesses etc. the motor and skill are there, we just need his body to catch up.
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Careful, I said the exact same thing and got criticized for it. He's currently listed at 185lbs. I find that a stretch tbh.
 
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Turcotte looks like an energy player at this point. Not diminishing what an energy player can bring, they can be a vital part of the culture and identity of a team, but at 5th overall you want someone who can put up some points as well.
 
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kings11 said:
TF are you talking about?
the kid oozes offensive potential and has a great 200ft game. If you actually watched him and paid attention, you’d see the little things the guy does along with very high skill..
This is the type of kid that wears a letter and sacrifices everything to win
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You basically just said nothing about his offensive ability.

Playing a 200ft game, doing the little things, "sacrificing everything"; none of these mean you're going to be a great scorer.

He's has a very well refined game. Very coachable. But he's not a great offensive player. Not a great shooter. Not particularly creative.

If he's a 50 point player in the NHL I'd be pretty happy. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's much better than that. I think the Kings are doing the right thing by letting him stay in the AHL. Let that offensive game develop as much as possible.
 
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johnjm22 said:
You basically just said nothing about his offensive ability.

Playing a 200ft game, doing the little things, "sacrificing everything"; none of these mean you're going to be a great scorer.

He's has a very well refined game. Very coachable. But he's not a great offensive player. Not a great shooter. Not particularly creative.

If he's a 50 point player in the NHL I'd be pretty happy. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's much better than that. I think the Kings are doing the right thing by letting him stay in the AHL. Let that offensive game develop as much as possible.
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His offensive game is pretty damn advanced, the biggest problem I saw was him being paired with Wagner and Madden. Neither of which could convert the many chances he’s created, especially Wagner how just plain sucks… if Frk and Tkachev where his line mates he’d probably be among the league leaders.
 
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Yeah, Turcotte is likely not going to be the central scorer on his line, but he creates multiple glorious chances every single time he's on the ice. If you put him with plugs, you'll get what you deserve. If you put him with scorers, he's going to rack up the points.

So if you see him as an 'energy player' and put him with moore and lizotte, yeah, that's exactly what this org would do, he's probably not going to rack up the points.

But I don't think anyone that watches him regularly would suggest he has offensive 'problems.' Shit if Wagner could simply skate a puck into an empty net Turc would probably be over PPG, he's doing everything short of commandeering Austin's stick for him.
 
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johnjm22 said:
I don't think Turcotte will ever come close to Mike Richards. Richards had an 80 point season and a 75 point season.

Turcotte just doesn't have that offensive upside.

I think he's a 40-50 point guy in the NHL.

He could end up just being an upgraded more physical version of Trevor Lewis.
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Richards was a machine those two years, but he was more of a high 50's low 60's guy. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility for Turcotte, but yea he's not going to approach a ppg. I'd say best case he settles in about where Richards was when he joined the Kings.

There are a lot of similarities though, Richards also had to fill out and they both have leadership, tenacity, etc. If he turns into a more offensive version of Danault I'd be happy.
 
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Fishhead said:
Richards was a machine those two years, but he was more of a high 50's low 60's guy. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility for Turcotte, but yea he's not going to approach a ppg. I'd say best case he settles in about where Richards was when he joined the Kings.

There are a lot of similarities though, Richards also had to fill out and they both have leadership, tenacity, etc. If he turns into a more offensive version of Danault I'd be happy.
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id settle for being as good as Danault.
 
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