Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster discussion

[SettlementRichie10]

It’s a gamble and it does remind me a little of when Peyton Manning (granted he was vastly more established) was released by the Colts due to injury concerns and the fact they were going to draft Luck.

Manning couldn’t throw the ball further than 10 yards and it was bad. Broncos took a gamble coming off a playoff appearance and signed Manning despite the concerns that Manning was toast. It paid off obviously but the point is you rarely get a chance at these type of players. Sometimes you gotta roll the dice.

The difference being that in football taking a gamble on an all-star quarterback can instantly vault a team into contention if it pays off. You really need a supporting cast around a player like Eichel otherwise, hey, you're the Buffalo Sabres.

I just don't think the Kings are at that point. Eichel is a better player than Richards, but it reminds me of the Richards trade. We'd already made the playoffs two years in a row with a very young team. They were ready to bring in a player like Richards. The current Kings aren't ready to bring in anyone, in my opinion.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I appreciate the dialogue.
This is actually a conversation that inrigues me. I'm curious as to why you think nobody will be left to support him. Who all do you expect to trade?

I covered it briefly in a follow up post but I believe our prospect pool is absolutely FLUSH with middle six forwards, middle pairing dmen. I think unless they really, really hit, you can get away with trading as many of Kupari, Madden, Clague, Thomas etc. as possible.

I think the high end untouchables are Byfield, Turcotte (I know some disagree), Kaliyev, Vilardi, and I'm borderline on Faber at this point (makes me think of Ryan McDonagh). Maybe 'untouchable' isn't the right word, but to get an asset like Eichel or any other elite player that would be an 'upgrade' on those guys, the cost would be multiples--leaving us pretty much right where we have been for years, STACKED with depth, thin on high-end.

Like, you can't play all of those prospects at once--Kupari, Madden, Thomas, Fagemo, Kaliyev, Vilardi, Turcotte, Byfield, etc--something's gotta give, there's only so many roster spots. But you don't give away three top sixers for one top sixer at this stage. That's solving a problem by creating another one. Like yes it's trading mystery boxes for a 'sure thing' but that 'sure thing' comes with an assload of question marks too.

 

[tny760]

I never understood the hype of Jacks tacos. I’ve never eaten cat food but I can’t imagine it’s any worse.

And on the topic of fast food guilty pleasures, every once in awhile an Arby’s roast beef (or whatever meat it is) or a McRib (or whatever meat it is) hits the spot.

something about that crispy, greasy, deep fried taco that's different from a lot of places to me

never gonna pretend they're high quality but i'll eat the f*** out of em

 

[Gjwrams]

I don't eat fast food much anymore, but all this fast food talk has be wanting to make a Portillos run (only fast food I still eat semi-regularly). Damn there are enough temptations with commercials and billboards, now I have to get it here.

@Herby Damn! You got me ordering a polish dog and chili fries from Uber Eats as I type! Then you bring up McRib.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I never understood the hype of Jacks tacos. I’ve never eaten cat food but I can’t imagine it’s any worse.

And on the topic of fast food guilty pleasures, every once in awhile an Arby’s roast beef (or whatever meat it is) or a McRib (or whatever meat it is) hits the spot.

They're crunchy and with a ton of the red sauce they drown it in, it's kind of a mild spicy treat. After too many overpriced beers at Staples, they settle the stomach nicely. Also, they're cheap as hell. They're soy tacos, iirc, but they look like catfood. lol

 

[Bandit]

Mmmmmmmm... Arby's. Haven't had that in forever either.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Now I want Arby's. nearest one is a bit far.

 

[Herby]

@Herby Damn! You got me ordering a polish dog and chili fries from Uber Eats as I type! Then you bring up McRib.

Don't worry. I have gotten myself too tonight, that will be my meal to watch the Knights-Habs game. Maxwell Street Polish is like crack, and fast food discussion triggered it, thanks guys.

BTW speaking of expensive fast food, driving through Barstow a couple of weeks ago on my cross country drive we stopped at Carls cuz the In-N-Out line was so long. Holy crap, Carls combo meals are as almost as expensive as sitting down and having a burger at Chilis or something like that.

 

[Gjwrams]

There have been a lot of Arby's closing down in my area. They may be having some corporate financial troubles, though I can't understand why? Every time I would go in there, the place was overrun by senior citizens getting their roast beef on. LOL

 

[Schrute farms]

My first job was Arby's. I lied and said i was 16 (15). Had to quit 3 months in when an inspector came and needed my work permit.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Arby's
Del Taco
In 'N Out

 

[DryIslandBartender]

The difference being that in football taking a gamble on an all-star quarterback can instantly vault a team into contention if it pays off. You really need a supporting cast around a player like Eichel otherwise, hey, you're the Buffalo Sabres.

I just don't think the Kings are at that point. Eichel is a better player than Richards, but it reminds me of the Richards trade. We'd already made the playoffs two years in a row with a very young team. They were ready to bring in a player like Richards. The current Kings aren't ready to bring in anyone, in my opinion.

I don’t disagree, if Blake makes a run at Eichel, it can’t be the only move. Eichel won’t be happy if this team returns just about everyone because they won’t be a shoe in for the playoffs.

 

[KINGS17]

Don't worry. I have gotten myself too tonight, that will be my meal to watch the Knights-Habs game. Maxwell Street Polish is like crack, and fast food discussion triggered it, thanks guys.

BTW speaking of expensive fast food, driving through Barstow a couple of weeks ago on my cross country drive we stopped at Carls cuz the In-N-Out line was so long. Holy crap, Carls combo meals are as almost as expensive as sitting down and having a burger at Chilis or something like that.

This stuff will kill you. I am having a kale salad with beets, broccoli, cauliflower and lentils. No dressing, because that stuff will kill you too. I am going to wash it all down with a nice refreshing bottle of kombucha.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This stuff will kill you. I am having a kale salad with beets, broccoli, cauliflower and lentils. No dressing, because that stuff will kill you too. I am going to wash it all down with a nice refreshing bottle of kombucha.

Not gonna lie, I've been doing a vegan meal delivery service for about 10 meals a week for a month as a response to trying to get over long-term covid bullshit and I feel like a million bucks

Not doing it to be 'vegan' in particular, just got sick of getting so busy with life and work that I just ate garbage on the go all day

You'd better believe though the moment I so much as smell a hamburger though it's absolutely on

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Don't worry. I have gotten myself too tonight, that will be my meal to watch the Knights-Habs game. Maxwell Street Polish is like crack, and fast food discussion triggered it, thanks guys.

BTW speaking of expensive fast food, driving through Barstow a couple of weeks ago on my cross country drive we stopped at Carls cuz the In-N-Out line was so long. Holy crap, Carls combo meals are as almost as expensive as sitting down and having a burger at Chilis or something like that.

Not only are they more expensive but the portions are significantly smaller. Used to be 59 cent tacos at Taco Bell, Big Mac was 2.50 etc.

 

[Matt13]

This stuff will kill you. I am having a kale salad with beets, broccoli, cauliflower and lentils. No dressing, because that stuff will kill you too. I am going to wash it all down with a nice refreshing bottle of kombucha.

 

[SmytheKing]

It won't make a difference within.....5 years?

Not if you don't shore up the defense it won't. Do you think Center will be a problem for the Kings in the next five years? They've got Byfield and Turcotte planned for 1 and 2. Probably JAD as the 3rd line one if not Moore. This all after Kopitar calls it quits. Getting Eichel is starting with Byfield and the #8. Then add in one or two of AK, Bjornfot, Kupari, Vilardi, Fagemo.

You've sacrificed a lot of youth to get a guy who has led his team to 33, 30, and 22 (projected) wins since he's been the captain. Does anyone really look at the Sabres roster and the Kings roster and think there's a substantial difference in talent? If the Kings lost Kopitar or Doughty for the season (like the Sabres did with Eichel), does anyone think they'd do any better than a bottom five team?

I just don't see the point of adding him at this time. It solves a problem that doesn't exist and creates a new one.

 

[DrHansReinhardt]

Del taco, taco bell, gimme some mo'. I'll hit the taquero with trompo on the way home too, IDGAF.

It became clear how Mr Squirties got his nickname.

I've eaten at the Barstow Del Taco a bunch of times over the years. It was always a treat to stop for some of those tacos, unreal sized portions.

 

[HookKing]

I think the price for Eichel will be much less than people think. In fact, the only top asset I would send from the Kings is Vilardi (risk for risk). Of course other stuff would have to go with him but I would keep our speedy guys and mostly give them picks and/or secondary prospects.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Anyone try the Naugles at the beach? Is it legit? Oh and just to keep it on topic, it's all about the price for Eichel. If Buffalo is asking for Byfield, Turcotte, AK and a 1st, then F NO. I have no doubt that all these "insiders" have heard varying amounts of bits and pieces of which at the time of hearing it was accurate. But we all know things can change in a hurry. I highly doubt that the Kings are 100% against trading for Eichel. Now maybe Buffalo hasn't wavered in their ask and the Kings are like fine, move on then. Buffalo could cave eventually.

Tried the one in Stanton a few months ago. Pretty good food. Hope they make a comeback. When heading to Vegas/Lake Mead, we’d stop in Barstow. I’d head to Naugles and my buddies would do to McDonalds. NAUGLES > McD.

 

[SmytheKing]

I think the price for Eichel will be much less than people think. In fact, the only top asset I would send from the Kings is Vilardi (risk for risk). Of course other stuff would have to go with him but I would keep our speedy guys and mostly give them picks and/or secondary prospects.

...and they'll say no.

I'd rather the Kings take that $10 million and spend it on a couple of 2nd/3rd pairing guys to support the younger fellas and teach them. Go pay a little extra and get Patrick Nemeth and Ian Cole or something like that. Help the goalies, the breakout, and the younger guys on the back end.

 

[lumbergh]

...and they'll say no.

I'd rather the Kings take that $10 million and spend it on a couple of 2nd/3rd pairing guys to support the younger fellas and teach them. Go pay a little extra and get Patrick Nemeth and Ian Cole or something like that. Help the goalies, the breakout, and the younger guys on the back end.

And the Kings will miss the playoffs again if they don’t make a key acquisition for the near and long term. Not gonna cut it, IMO.

 

[The Lukeman]

Idk about Del Taco, but personally I think Cole Caufield is a Taco bell kind of guy.

 

[Schmooley]

...and they'll say no.

I'd rather the Kings take that $10 million and spend it on a couple of 2nd/3rd pairing guys to support the younger fellas and teach them. Go pay a little extra and get Patrick Nemeth and Ian Cole or something like that. Help the goalies, the breakout, and the younger guys on the back end.

Pay extra for Nemeth? Hes worse than Maatta

 

[FSL KINGS]

Del Taco: Back in the day, my bro would order the large macho combo burrito combo with chili cheese fries! Wanda always hooked it up.

Looking ahead a bit. Kopi's contract is up same time as A. Mathews. Anyone else want to take a run at him UFA?