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johnjm22 said:
Bernstein implied the Kings need to do something big to address falling TV ratings and get fans back.

I always wonder if bringing in a big name player like that actually pays for itself. You spend 10M on the player for the year, are you going to make that 10M back in sales to justify it?

There's no way to measure it exactly I suppose. But I'm guessing in the Kings case the answer to that question is no.
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If that player can get you into the playoffs the answer is yes. And I realize one player isn't enough but a healthy Eichel is a premier player who can make others around him better. Add him and a top 6 winger and things start to look very interesting in a weak Pacific division. Throw a top 4 LHD into the mix and things get very very interesting. Expensive but interesting. I think AEG and management know that the team is one more bottom 10 finish away from Buffalo level dysfunction.
 
All depends on how much we pay him. If it's reasonable I'm down for taking another shot. Funny enough, LA does have one of the highest Russian populations in the US.
 
Kings have 18 players signed with $20.5 million in cap space. Once 2021-2022 is over, another $11.8 million comes off the cap (Carter's retention, Brown, and Maatta).

Some teams will be in a major crunch.

 
Tampa is more than $5 million over with 19 players signed. All their LTIR shenanigans did was kick the can down the road 1 year.
 
tomd said:
If that player can get you into the playoffs the answer is yes. And I realize one player isn't enough but a healthy Eichel is a premier player who can make others around him better. Add him and a top 6 winger and things start to look very interesting in a weak Pacific division. Throw a top 4 LHD into the mix and things get very very interesting. Expensive but interesting. I think AEG and management know that the team is one more bottom 10 finish away from Buffalo level dysfunction.
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Uhh, no, no one knows or even thinks that. The Kings have had 2 cup wins since Buffalo last made the playoffs. It’s amazing, the dramatics over the lean years we all knew were coming. We fans used to be able to do 3 playoff miss years with our eyes closed, we are getting soft.

We all know how this works. You build, get a good prospect pool, and when they start coming along you supplement with other assets. If a good deal comes along, you take it. Eichel probably isn’t that deal, but if he is available for good value, you do it. What you don’t do is something stupid for short term gains, like trying to catch lightning in a bottle because your division is in a weak year. It’s like we learned nothing from 1967-2006.

You overestimate how much AEG gets involved with the Kings. This team is in the back of their minds right now, if they are thinking of them at all.
 
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tomd said:
If that player can get you into the playoffs the answer is yes. And I realize one player isn't enough but a healthy Eichel is a premier player who can make others around him better. Add him and a top 6 winger and things start to look very interesting in a weak Pacific division. Throw a top 4 LHD into the mix and things get very very interesting. Expensive but interesting. I think AEG and management know that the team is one more bottom 10 finish away from Buffalo level dysfunction.
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Flip "buffalo" for "LA" and "Eichel" for "Kopitar" and it's like they're the same player in the same situation

ie if you want to call Eichel a 'difference maker' you have to give kopitar the same due, you can't pump eichel's tires and motherf*** kopitar especially given Kopitar's usage is generously 1000% harder.
 
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Flip "buffalo" for "LA" and "Eichel" for "Kopitar" and it's like they're the same player in the same situation

ie if you want to call Eichel a 'difference maker' you have to give kopitar the same due, you can't pump eichel's tires and motherf*** kopitar especially given Kopitar's usage is generously 1000% harder.
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No argument from me on that. I don't recall ever saying that Kopitar wasn't a difference maker...in fact, Iafallo should donate 1/2 his salary to Kopitar in return for making him a better LW!

The Kings literally have no 2nd line right now and Eichel would be a monster start in developing one. Add a top 6 winger along with Eichel and you've got a much much better hockey team.
 
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tomd said:
No argument from me on that. I don't recall ever saying that Kopitar wasn't a difference maker...in fact, Iafallo should donate 1/2 his salary to Kopitar in return for making him a better LW!

The Kings literally have no 2nd line right now and Eichel would be a monster start in developing one. Add a top 6 winger along with Eichel and you've got a much much better hockey team.
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Yeah was more of a observation of the general rhetoric on this forum, heh.

i actually think Eichel is completely underrated in the 'best player in the world' discussion my big worries are his health and not knowing our prospect holes.
 
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'A healthy Eichel'....does not exist at this time and it is too much of an unknown or guarantee he will ever be the same. Necks and backs / spinal scare me.
Knees, not so much...concussions? Somewhat. The Kings cannot take big risks, now or ever. If Eichel was post surgery and testing well for a reasonable
full recovery, that's one thing.

Go for other targets. I like the idea of signing this Tkachyov. No risk, high reward potential. I like the idea of targets like Tkachuk or Reinhart....possibly Gaudreau.
As Mayor said, the Kings are looking to add 2 forwards ; a legit top 6 and a top 9, that may be top 6 level. I am good with 1 top 3 forward and just let Byfield work in
as 3C. He will be ready for this coming season and really has nowhere else to play. 3C and 12ish minutes will not be too much pressure.

I say no to signing AA or Lizotte or Luff. Let's bring in some talent. AA had flashes, but really tanked last 3 weeks. Mayor said "why is everyone down on Wagner, 4th liners are 4th liners...make your top 6 better" I say make your team better, period. All slots. Look at Moore. JAD. 3rd / 4th liners with skill and ability. Way beyond Wagner. Wagner is signed for 2 more yrs? Oh well. Would make him 13th forward.
 
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Peter James Bond III said:
'A healthy Eichel'....does not exist at this time and it is too much of an unknown or guarantee he will ever be the same. Necks and backs / spinal scare me.
Knees, not so much...concussions? Somewhat. The Kings cannot take big risks, now or ever. If Eichel was post surgery and testing well for a reasonable
full recovery, that's one thing.

Go for other targets. I like the idea of signing this Tkachyov. No risk, high reward potential. I like the idea of targets like Tkachuk or Reinhart....possibly Gaudreau.
As Mayor said, the Kings are looking to add 2 forwards ; a legit top 6 and a top 9, that may be top 6 level. I am good with 1 top 3 forward and just let Byfield work in
as 3C. He will be ready for this coming season and really has nowhere else to play. 3C and 12ish minutes will not be too much pressure.
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No offense but you are constantly overrating prospects and the likelihood and speed in which they will become NHL players. I still get a chuckle remembering your posts from 2019 which had Kupari as a top line player on the 19-20 team. The LAST thing the Kings should do is rush Byfield. They've already potentially ruined Vilardi by rushing him this past year. Byfield as 3c will do nothing to develop him offensively and will expose him defensively.
 
Peter James Bond III said:
'A healthy Eichel'....does not exist at this time and it is too much of an unknown or guarantee he will ever be the same. Necks and backs / spinal scare me.
Knees, not so much...concussions? Somewhat. The Kings cannot take big risks, now or ever. If Eichel was post surgery and testing well for a reasonable
full recovery, that's one thing.

Go for other targets. I like the idea of signing this Tkachyov. No risk, high reward potential. I like the idea of targets like Tkachuk or Reinhart....possibly Gaudreau.
As Mayor said, the Kings are looking to add 2 forwards ; a legit top 6 and a top 9, that may be top 6 level. I am good with 1 top 3 forward and just let Byfield work in
as 3C. He will be ready for this coming season and really has nowhere else to play. 3C and 12ish minutes will not be too much pressure.

I say no to signing AA or Lizotte or Luff. Let's bring in some talent. AA had flashes, but really tanked last 3 weeks. Mayor said "why is everyone down on Wagner, 4th liners are 4th liners...make your top 6 better" I say make your team better, period. All slots. Look at Moore. JAD. 3rd / 4th liners with skill and ability. Way beyond Wagner. Wagner is signed for 2 more yrs? Oh well. Would make him 13th forward.
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That was about the only part of this week's pod that I liked, I think he's right there. Even happens here. A lot of blaming of the auxillary guys when it's really the middle six that needs to carry their water better (or the coaching for, say, playing MacDermid 2nd pairing minutes). Like, someone like Grundstrom needs to shit or get off the pot, but when your entire middle six is having similar years, you're in trouble (i.e. Vilardi, AA towards the end, Carter, etc.). I mean we've had bad offense for years and that was WITH a 60 point 2C, when that guy disappeared, thankfully Kopitar pulled an Atlas and pulled an additional 30 points out of his ass a couple of times...but other guys really need to pitch in.
 
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tomd said:
If that player can get you into the playoffs the answer is yes. And I realize one player isn't enough but a healthy Eichel is a premier player who can make others around him better. Add him and a top 6 winger and things start to look very interesting in a weak Pacific division. Throw a top 4 LHD into the mix and things get very very interesting. Expensive but interesting. I think AEG and management know that the team is one more bottom 10 finish away from Buffalo level dysfunction.
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Add in an elite goalie to that mix and things suddenly go from very very interesting to very very very interesting.
 
Elias Pettersson posted a few pictures recently of him, Jacob Moverare, and Lias Andersson in a studio with Michael Buble and Max Martin. We might getting a new Swedish House Mafia track soon. :laugh:
 
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tomd said:
I listened to Hoven the Hack's 1st period and he simply gave his OPINION that the Eichel talks were dead. Bernstein challenged him on that and HH said he believed the assets would be better spent elsewhere. As usual, Hoven has no information other than his opinion (which is worthless).
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I can't even handle his bull shit anymore.
 
LT Dan said:
I not a Hoven fan, at all. But he absolutely has information. He has nailed a lot of shit. The problem is it is usually not player transactions. It's injuries, etc.

His problem is that he hears something and thinks it is always still current and very likely blows up "interest" as done deals and also very likely sensationalizes shit for clicls. He hears tidbits, but he absolutely doesnt have a blowup doll with a webcam in Blake's office
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EVERYONE gets some news reported. Right place, right time.
 
Fishhead said:
Uhh, no, no one knows or even thinks that. The Kings have had 2 cup wins since Buffalo last made the playoffs. It’s amazing, the dramatics over the lean years we all knew were coming. We fans used to be able to do 3 playoff miss years with our eyes closed, we are getting soft.

We all know how this works. You build, get a good prospect pool, and when they start coming along you supplement with other assets. If a good deal comes along, you take it. Eichel probably isn’t that deal, but if he is available for good value, you do it. What you don’t do is something stupid for short term gains, like trying to catch lightning in a bottle because your division is in a weak year. It’s like we learned nothing from 1967-2006.

You overestimate how much AEG gets involved with the Kings. This team is in the back of their minds right now, if they are thinking of them at all.
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Actually I don't overestimate AEG's influence on the team. I do, however, believe Blake would need to get approval for the following items:
1. Strategic direction of team (i.e. whether to continue tanking for the next few years or shoot for playoffs in 21-22)
2. Trading Kopitar
3. Trading Doughty
4. Acquiring (via trade or free agency) an $8-10 million player on a long term deal.

That is my list. Yours may differ.
 
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