2021-2022 S Blues Multi-Purpose Thread Part 3

[TK 421]

But we need to see what those guys have.

You never root for injuries but this actually isn't a bad thing at all so I don't feel bad for anyone. Perunovich and Mikkola need NHL minutes so that we can finally figure out if they are good or not. Scandella was not doing anything but blocking them.

He's still an NHL player, but Scandella is literally a cap dump that we weren't able to dump. This completely solves our cap and roster issues. Blessing in disguise.

I've seen enough of Mikkola to determine I don't want him in as a regular.

Point taken on Perunovich and now it's time for him to sink or swim.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

6 months from now would be late March. I would be shocked if he didn’t have a small complication that would delay his return to…oh, let’s say April 14th. And then have him on hand as an option in the playoffs.

I wouldn’t bother adding a guy now. Just bank the cap space and use it at the trade deadline for something better. Go with what we have now and add if a need shows itself.

Don't believe you can bank LTIR space?

 

[MissouriMook]

Six months would be a pretty quick recovery from hip surgery, but given the cap ramifications, I think it's highly unlikely we're going to see a "miracle recovery" here. He won't see the ice during the regular season.

Look how long Bouwmeester took to get back into form after his hip injury. Granted he was a year or two older and I know not all hip injuries are the same, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find that this could threaten Scandella's career. He'll be 33 before he even gets cleared to practice.

 

[BlueDream]

Look how long Bouwmeester took to get back into form after his hip injury. Granted he was a year or two older and I know not all hip injuries are the same, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find that this could threaten Scandella's career. He'll be 33 before he even gets cleared to practice.

Sundqvist also went through hip surgery last year and I believe it was reported that is what was causing most of the pain and why it was taking so long to recover, more so than the ACL.

His career is definitely in jeopardy. But it's really not a big loss as we would have traded him by now if we had any takers.

 

[TK 421]

Zone exits were already going to be an issue if the 3rd pair was Scandella - Bortuzzo, Mikkola certainly isn't going to help that at all. Perunovich could but he can't stay healthy. Bortuzzo aging out, Scandella now gone for 6 months, Mikkola sucks and Perunovich as of yet unproven....

I'd like to add a defenseman with that cap space, don't want to wait until the deadline to address this.

 

[TheDizee]

nice cap dump

 

[execwrite1]

All the best to Marco, never want to see anyone hurt (well, maybe except Kadri).

But - a gift from the heavens from the cap gods. Opens up space this year, he's got one year left after that.

Gives Armstrong 12 months to move his somewhere.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Don't believe you can bank LTIR space?

You’re right.

I was moving the math around in my head wrong. Just did it on paper (well, excel actually) and assuming I’m figuring things right (I’m pretty comfortable with the Cap and LTIR overages but not an expert) putting Scandella on LTIR would only give them an LTIR overage of a couple hundred thousand. BUT, if they signed or traded for a player that makes $3M, they’d be able to use pretty much all of Scandella’s cap hit as an overage.

So it may be in the Blues’ best interest to add a forward now if the plan is to keep Scandella on LTIR all season to fully maximize the overage.

Torpo on LTIR shouldn’t have any real impact or benefit since he makes league minimum and will simply be temporarily replaced by another league minimum player and he’s projected to return mid-season.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Not sure if it was ever confirmed or not, but I though it was heavily speculated that we've never wanted that many early home games that would conflict with potential Cardinals playoff games. And I'd imagine the league tries to accommodate as many of those requests as possible for the sake of ratings and ticket sales.

I remember season after season the Blues would be 12 points (or however many) behind the Red Wings with 5 games in hand and then finish the season 8 or 10 points behind.

The Blues have squandered pretty much every opportunity to catch up to teams who've played more games.

The only example I can think of that went our way was when we miraculously caught up to sneak into the 2009 playoffs. And I don't remember if that was a games-in-hand situation or just a shit ton of lucky breaks.

 

[mk80]

6 months from now would be late March. I would be shocked if he didn’t have a small complication that would delay his return to…oh, let’s say April 14th. And then have him on hand as an option in the playoffs.

I wouldn’t bother adding a guy now. Just bank the cap space and use it at the trade deadline for something better. Go with what we have now and add if a need shows itself.

I would have doubts about throwing him out into playoff hockey though given how we've seen it takes a while to get acclimated back to normal from a hip surgery with Bouwmeester. Though maybe Scandella's is a bit less extensive than Bouw's was, plus he is a little younger.

 

[STL fan in MN]

I would have doubts about throwing him out into playoff hockey though given how we've seen it takes a while to get acclimated back to normal from a hip surgery with Bouwmeester. Though maybe Scandella's is a bit less extensive than Bouw's was, plus he is a little younger.

I said have him on hand, not throw him back in the lineup no matter what. ie. if they’re facing injuries to where they’re facing having to put guys like Rosen and Santini in the lineup again but also have a now healthy Scandella sitting there, he’d be a worthy option. And there’d be no Cap impact at that point.

 

[Brian39]

I wouldn’t bother adding a guy now. Just bank the cap space and use it at the trade deadline for something better. Go with what we have now and add if a need shows itself.

You don't bank any cap space while utilizing LTIR.

 

[TheDizee]

Report: MLB, NBA, And NHL Could Buy Regional Sports Networks

Reports indicate that the NBA, MLB, and NHL could be working out a deal to buy the largest owner of regional sports networks.

www.outkick.com

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Report: MLB, NBA, And NHL Could Buy Regional Sports Networks

Reports indicate that the NBA, MLB, and NHL could be working out a deal to buy the largest owner of regional sports networks.

www.outkick.com

Is that good or bad or neither?

 

[joe galiba]

Is that good or bad or neither?

they will find a way to screw it up more and charge us more for it

 

[mk80]

Is that good or bad or neither?

The correct answer is, all the above.

 

[oPlaiD]

Yea heard that before also and definitely understand it. I just figured maybe give us a big road trip to start or something. It's not really the home/away that pops out, it's the complete lack of games for the first 3-4 weeks of the year. I wish I could compare all teams to see if any other team's schedule looks like this but I don't have the time to manually do it.

I mean we don't start until the 15th for some reason (This may not bug anyone now, but trust me the week of October 9th it's going to drive you crazy), then for some reason we play ONE game the week after Halloween.

We will have played 9 games by November 7th. I can't wait to see how that looks in the standings on that day.

This is great for lazy last-place-to-first narratives!

 

[ChicagoBlues]

The correct answer is, all the above.

My first thought was that the major sports leagues want to control the narrative even more than they already do.

 

[mk80]

My first thought was that the major sports leagues want to control the narrative even more than they already do.

Wanting control of a narrative can be applied to any to company to be fair though.

There already many cases of regional networks or stations like NESN (Fenway Sports Group has the majority share 80%), and YES (Yankee Sports Group has majority share 26%), MSG Network (Madison Square Garden Group), MASN (Nationals 23% and Orioles 77%), KLAA-AM (LA Angels 100%) that operate as normal as other RSN's that aren't owned by the teams in terms of narratives. A home broadcast of any team is generally going to feature more of "homers call" from the broadcasters whether owned by the team or not.

I'd say more or equally important as the narrative is controlling the additional revenue streams opened by having direct ownership of your broadcasts.

A big plus that I would hope would come of a hypothetical scenario of the Blues and Cardinals buying BSMW from a bankrupt Sinclair is the increased opportunity for additional programming related to the two teams, I would love to see an in depth Blues/hockey NHL network style show, or showing broadcasts of Springfield Thunderbirds, Memphis Redbirds, Springfield Cardinals games once in awhile.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Somehow, I'm feel I'm gonna need like 10 different channels to watch every game in a few years.

 

[Brian39]

Is that good or bad or neither?

A little bit of everything.

The headline really buries the lead here. Diamond Sports (AKA Bally Sports) appears to be hemorrhaging money and has hired an investment bank known for facilitating sales. There have been rumors that bankruptcy is on the table as a worst case scenario if a sale can't be made, which would be a full scale disaster for the leagues. From the article:

"The belief is that if Diamond does go bankrupt, it wouldn’t disrupt its ability to broadcast games. However, it won’t have to pay teams the rights fees as protection from creditors is a condition of bankruptcy"

So all of these games would continue to air on Bally Sports, but the leagues and teams would no longer be getting the agreed upon broadcast fees throughout the duration of the proceedings (which would likely drag on for a year or more).

I'd guess that the league's interest in an ownership stake is much less about wanting more control and much more about avoiding a financials disaster where a third of its teams suddenly lose all of their TV revenue for a year+. Frankly, I think NHL/team ownership and operation of the broadcasts would be more consumer-friendly than the current model. That is the only plausible avenue for a no blackouts streaming service. It will cost more than most will like, but transitioning the business model from 'selling the broadcast rights' to a direct to consumer model would be a step in the right direction.

The regional broadcasts are already hand-in-glove with the teams. They are separate entities, but the broadcasters are very cozy with the team. They share flights, stay in the same hotel and hang around the rink together. I don't know of any home broadcast that isn't pushing the narrative the team wants.

 

[PocketNines]

This is great for lazy last-place-to-first narratives!

On the one hand there were SIX teams with 4-6 games in hand who clearly had worse records – at a glance – than the Blues, but on the other hand Jeremy Rutherford has a mortgage and kids to feed, he needed the clicks and superlatives get clicks. They should really call them "sports clickists"

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Somehow, I'm feel I'm gonna need like 10 different channels to watch every game in a few years.

10 channels with 10 separate subscriptions

 

[bleedblue1223]

Not sure what his source is on this, but would likely mean Kyrou takes Perron's spot.

 

[Majorityof1]

While Scandella's injury is good for our cap situation, is anyone worried about our defensive depth after the top 8 now? We have 6 proven NHL players (whether you like them or not) in Parayko, Faulk, Leddy, Krug, Bortz and Mikkola. Our 7th is relatively unproven with 26 games, many of which we ran 7 D to shelter him heavily.

Our AHL D is lead by Rosen, who has 38 NHL games but looked serviceable as an 8th man last year. Then there is Santini who has a lot of NHL games, but didn't look serviceable in any of the 6 games he's played the last 2 years. The only other options are completely unproven guys who we don't even rank in our top 7 prospects with a pretty weak prospect pool (Kessel, Loof, Buchinger, Lyle,) .

Maybe we should make a move for an AHL depth D? I have no faith in Perunovich to be able to play with only 6 D regularly, so if a couple more guys get hurt we are screwed. We have a lot of forward depth with Army signing every AHL-NHL tweener available. But we don't have near that depth on D.